Club Obi Wan

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Hm, sure every penny matters, but every penny is worth keeping the look&feel. At least to me. Why not going with the original suppliers? Instead of taking risks with new ones... I still find it hard to believe it's just about money or location (US vs. Europe). There have to be other reasons not ...

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Hi,

I don't think money for some hats, jackets and whips mattered. Unless Noel et al. were not too greedy.
I mean we are talking about a multi-million dollar budget film...

Cheers
HP

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DR Ulloa wrote:Welcome to the club, Fox. You;ll be at the one year mark before you know it! Speaking of which, has anyone received any new ABs?

Dave

Hm, there should be one per day...
Strange that nobody is posting, isn't it?

Cheers
HP

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Hi LLS, we learned in the past from various hatters here in COW that the look of a hat is determined not only by the block but also by the felt and how skillfully it is bashed. Does your block work with your felt only or could it be a different felt also, i.e. would your block yield the same look re...

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Thanks for the detailed explanation!
This makes it much clearer to me.
Now I got your point.

Cheers
HP

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Fedora, I wonder if your quest for THE block will ever be over. We heard so often in the past that you are as close as one can get, we order your hats, wait for months, get it and soon after that you tell us you got even closer. I mean, isn't it a bit unfair that somebody who ordered just one or two...

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I'm yet to see a hat that actually accepts the top pinch somewhat solid. On The Henry as with every other hat, the pinch keeps popping out. I wonder what kind of a weird block it'd have to be to just take that pinch. I had the same "trouble" with my Magnoli HJ because of the softness of t...

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indyrocks wrote:HP-

Great lookin lid! Did it come with the turn? (I couldn't tell from the pics)

No, it came open crown and I bashed it WITHOUT the turn.

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Here are some shots of mine:

http://picasaweb.google.com/hp.images/I ... ertJohnson

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Hi jeremy3178, I got both hats and here are some pics (original HJ on the left, Magnoli on the right and standalone): http://picasaweb.google.com/hp.images/Sab_ab_hj_comparison I bought the HJ in 2005 from a German distributor. I guess it's the same that is provided by SAB today. Color, felt, sweat ...

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Hello everybody... now with some pics. I have both hats - an HJ of 2005 from SAB (on the left) and an IM/AB. I took some pictures so we can see the blockshape. In my opinion this is the main visual difference besides the bow - and the craftsmanship for sure. The color, lining, sweat and crest are th...

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Yeah, once you see it, it stands out. There is a brim line on the hat (for the Cairo). It doesn't seem to be on the actual "Raiders" hat throughout the film, though. But the Cairo underwent some mussing and the sides still remained nice and straight even when shortened. This ol thing, for...

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I would go for a Todds HJ. It looks much better in color and the Magnoli hj is basically rabbit AB. So if you want a HJ get a Todds. I've seen two friends get raiders hats out of a todds HJ. And I've never seen a magnoli HJ that looks Raiders! just my 2 cts. Well, I got both. In 2005 I bought a HJ ...

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Indy Magnoli wrote:The only thing I would change would be to push the center dent a little further down at the back.

Kind regards,
Indy

Actually the dent is further down in the back. The bear's little head pushed it out a little bit ;-)

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HP

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Indy Magnoli wrote: I think the teddy bear needs a smaller hat!

Kind regards,
Indy

Well, I was thinking of taking a walk in the rain... just kidding, Indy.
Are you satisfied with my styling job?

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HP

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Indiana G wrote:looks very nice...but would like to see more angles if you could please

Here we go...
http://picasaweb.google.com/hp.images/I ... ertJohnson

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Hi guys,

like to show you my AB HJ on http://picasaweb.google.com/hp.images/I ... ertJohnson
I started with LC bash, unturned. But it may look like Raiders eventually ;-)
How does it appeal to you?

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HP

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A telescope crowned hat starts with a tall, pointy blockshape To get the lines I see on the Raiders hat, the block shape needs to be quite sovepipe. That way the felt folds back on it's self sharply. A pointy block would be less likely to leave lines, as the folds couldn't be as sharp. A telescoped...

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Maybe the film hats were indeed streched by Swales and there has never been a "Raiders" block at all? Then, during filming of Raiders the hats just went back to their original block shape? Anything is possible I guess. Of course, we still have to explain away the vintage HJ that I sold to...

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Perhaps this is why some of those Raiders hats tend to have the Poet block visible on the hat's perimiter. Perhaps, but a real logical explanation could be, as the film progressed, the hat tapered!! That is something that all can relate to. And also something what would indeed make alot of sense. W...

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Thank you very much for the answer, Fedora. I got two more questions: 1) How does the ABHJ compare to your regular beaver AB regarding bashing? Is it easier to bash or more difficult? Does it require different bashing technics? The hats are made of different felt, so I guess you get different result...

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I think it's common sence that AB/AB Deluxe are the best hats you can get today. I own an AB Deluxe and and HJ of 2005. For me, there's no doubt which one is the better hat ;-) But how does the Magnoli/AB-HJ compare to all the other brands, e.g. Akubra? Is this HJ really bad regarding materials and ...

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I have both HJ and AB. It is a no brainer. AB or AB Deluxe and there is no real argument unless you just want a display hat that has an HJ label in it. I think it's common sence that AB/AB Deluxe are the best. I own an AB Deluxe and and HJ of 2005. For me, there's no doubt which one is the best ;-)...

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The hat doesn't look to be turned.
What do you think?

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HP

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Will it be stitched or colored?

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HP

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You probably write this because you don't have an HJ yourself, because once you do, you will realize that it's not a sorry looking hat at all, and in fact it's the hat that looks the most Indy, and can even make an accurate Raiders hat. When I got mine, and after reading mainly negative comments he...

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3thoubucks, your effort deserves admiration! I have one question: do you believe they did all these "tricks" for the film head as well or do you just try to replicate the look? If they did it back in 1980, please tell us briefly the reasons for these modifications (pleat, pok pie, brim etc...

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Maybe the don't have a proper pictures of their Poet and use the DP pic instead... When http://www.indyfedora.com went down some month ago I checked http://swaineadeney.co.uk and I remember they had a different picture. Poor quality but a "real" Poet. Although very unprofessional, people o...

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Fatdutchman wrote:... But, instead of the top being flat, it is quite domed, with a "peak" in the center. Too much material. It doesn't just fold in, it "pops" in, ...

I have exactly the same effect with my AB Deluxe.
Maybe some hatter can explain this phenomenon...

Cheers
HP

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In the late 80's when I was makeing a straw hat I painted brown into an Indy hat, I went into a tiny old fabric shop to look for some ribbon. - I may have just dreamed this, but I remember finding typical looking ribbon that stretched like a rubber band.... I even went back there this century to tr...

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I had the same effect on my AB Deluxe. I requested a flanged brim on the sides and in the back, because I wanted LC style from the beginning. I assume the brim was flanged round and round, i.e. sides, back and front and then the front was snap down. (Marc, correct me if I'm wrong). I had to steam an...

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Sidenote: Regarding the too low pinch... Looking at these pictures I'm starting to think that it gives the right look and the original hat probably wasn't as high as we caricaturize it. Plus it shows how great is Marc's block: the hat looks still untapered (and with some reverse taper) even with a ...

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Very fine hat, Erri!
Did Marc do anything else besides reblock, e.g. change ribbon, lining or sweat?

Cheers
HP

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Thanks for the info. Steve made me a wonderful Adventurebilt with a LC bash; however at the time I asked him to leave the brim pretty wide because I thought it would be too narrow for my face. I was wrong! I decided to trim it down a wee bit on my own, however it is still wide. Next time I order an...

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I have an HJ of 2005 which is considered to have LC dimensions. The brim is 7.5 cm front and back, sides are 6.5 cm - so it's quite a dimensional cut. You might have a look into the thread "An AB Deluxe in Venice..." . Follow the link to some pictures of my AB Deluxe which got the same dim...

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Thank you very much! @slowdevil You're right. I worked on the brim and the curl since these pictures were shot. Now they are more defined. @Antone The manhole cover wasn't there. At least not at the place shown in LC. I only found a square one, but at a different point in front of the church. I wond...

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Hi guys, I'm HP from Germany. I've been around quite a while and read every topic with great pleasure. Finally, I decided to join COW and to contribute to this fantastic community. I'm 38 years old and an Indy fan since 1981. Last year I came across http://www.indyfedora.com and ordered the HJ they ...

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