Club Obi Wan

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Wow. I have not posted here in ages.
Just happened to think about Indygear and saw this on the front page.
My first Indy jacket was a Wested...back in 1997.
He answered my every email.
I remember thinking, "Wow, this is pretty cool."

RIP, Peter...

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Mike wrote:Now you're making me hungry.

....you wouldn't like me when I'm hungry."

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exactly. one of the unique things about the Raider jacket are the slim fit sleeves. A TN Indy 1 owner said that they are more form fitting than the Indy4 they have, but, while that is true, the Indy 1's sleeves still are not as slim as they seem to be in every pic I see from the movie. wasn't there ...

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that last pic posted by mmrosy best illustrates the form fit of the raiders jacket and the way the pleat/back panels are unique to this jacket. I know the jacket is a bit pulled forward, you can still see how much higher up the back the pleat begins as compared to other jackets in the movies. The Ra...

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Those pics of the Bronco look very nice. Interested to see if _ has spoken with these folks. He'll put up his Aero Bronco against anything. Thanks for the link.
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Michaelson summed it up best: " They explored the possibility, but it just wasn't worth the time and effort ." I have 3 or 4 "first draft" pics that they emailed to _ and I to glance over. After some feedback, they presumably got busy with things that mattered most and the projec...

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Just read the review for the latest jacket made by TN over in another thread. Jacket looks great, but I have a few questions: - i remember a number of film stills showing the jacket coming down to the midpoint of the back pants pockets (old man in cario scene comes to mind). the TN Raiders jackets s...

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hmmm, seems the Raiders jacket is getting more unique everyday. if i'm not mistaken, and i know there are several jackets that were used - and some surely had more grain than others, it seems as if the front panel and collar sections usually don't have as much grain as the side and back panels...whi...

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Digital pics taken from DVD's do not necessarily show what is true to life. Things do tend to get smoothed out and washed together - especially the details. An exception to this if an image has been taken from a film cell. In this instance, you will get what was actually seen the day of the shoot be...

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Are you kidding me? And this is a Todd's standard - hot water treatments to a custom and it just wouldn't be fair.

Major cool jacket sir. See what I mean fellow gearheads when I say the Todd's just has something about it tht screams Raiders?

Nice.

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Nice jacket. The "left back" pic shows the collar to be a near exact cut of the Expo collar. While I think this leather is no doubt as good as lamb can get, it may not be the best Raiders leather one could use for a Raiders jacket as seen on screen. Lastly, there are a few very very minute...

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Very very nice pics.
Look forward to pics of Todd's #2.
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i thought this particular jacket, from Butterfield, was once talked about years ago.....and it was determined to be a Crusade, not from Raiders and that the people who did the text goofed it up. Am I off on this? One of you Hall of Famers care to express your thoughts?

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IMHO, which doesn't mean much, I think if you took a Wested, Cooper, G&B, Todd's, Mag, Wings, and a TN - all size 40R - and had 7 men of the same build wearing one of each at the same time and asked a group of Indy fans, who grew up with the movies from the beginning, which jacket best captures ...

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Good Luck Master P.

Curious to know how TN would respond to those Q's. Just have a feeling that there are things at work here that few, if any, know about.

Geez, what's gonna happen next? it's like being hooked on a weekday soap opera...not that I would know anything about that sort of thing.

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Is this not the most perplexing thread since COW was launched? Okay, after a hefty helping of twice baked confusion, do I understand correctly in saying that... - TN hasn't yet made a replica of the hero jacket loaned by GL? - the reason he hasn't done so can't yet be disclosed? - in the next few we...

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I must say, the TN is getting better. That's a nice looking jacket. Cargo pockets look alot better - flaps may be a little too scalloped, but that is being much too picky. Couple things: 1. did the hero jacket straps point to the front or rear panel? 2. how many inches away is the bottom of the side...

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I asked Bogie to throw his up once some better quality pics came up fro the TN Raiders, but, I'm all for more Todd's custom pics. Post away gents.

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i agree. this just may be the piece of info that has been missing...and one that shines some believeability to the "original patterns", because, if you ask me, this jacket on Ford looks like it came straight out of the Wested Collection, circa 1997.

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If what Ravenswood suggests is done, then you would get the Todd's custom jacket. To be fair, I think the TN jacket has the Raiders collar down pat better than the Todd's custom, but I am not certain. Hey Bogie, why don't you throw down for a TN Raiders and give us a nice play by play comparison? :l...

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man this is fun. brings back dialogue from the old days, only this time i get to sit back on the sidelines and just watch the game.

too bad 'ol Austin Powers isn't here anymore, that would make things real interesting.

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Bogie, when someone posts some clear and close-up pics of a new TN Raiders jacket, that would be the time to take some pics from the same perspective as the ones that are posted of the TN, and then post yours...for a nice comparison. BTW, I can only imagine how awesome your custom looks at this poin...

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FYI in regards to the Todd's custom pics: that isn't the calfskin that was referred to, it is the regular cowhide that Todd uses on the custom offering...but, to me, there's nothing regular about it. That's a nice hide.

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Looks like a well made jacket. Like Rundquist, I think it may be too much grain for me. And, I did notice that the seam at the top of the cargo flap wasn't as wide as what I think has been evidenced before. See the last Todd's custom pic link to see what I am referring to. All I would like to see no...

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I like how TN is making this jacket more functional and the way that it would have been made by a jacket company back in the early 30's if this were real character and not a fictional one. Can't wait to get some better shots of the TN Raaiders jacket. I recall some close-ups we got to see from a Tod...

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Not what I expected. To be fair, the pics of this new jacket are not the best for one to be able to see how raiders-like this offering actually is. From what I see, it looks like a well made leather jacket, but... Remember when that first Todd's custom was posted on COW? Of course you do. Now that ...

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Not what I expected. To be fair, the pics of this new jacket are not the best for one to be able to see how raiders-like this offering actually is. From what I see, it looks like a well made leather jacket, but... Remember when that first Todd's custom was posted on COW? Of course you do. Now that w...

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Yeah, I think I read it wrong. Oh well.

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Thanks _. Looking forward to the details. "That's how he got the gig" - I guess that means that either a) someone in the IJ universe wanted the Raiders jacket to be duplicated and made available to the upper class (haha), or b) someone who somehow attained a hero jacket was willing to do t...

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I for one am looking forward to reading about how in the world Mr. Nowak was able to not only look at and view, not to just take pictures of, but to actually inspect, handle and directly measure from an actual hero jacket worn by Harrison Ford in Raiders. From the outside looking in, things just don...

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This is interesting news. All things considered, if this new TN jacket ends up looking better than the Todd's Custom Jacket...I will be suprised. I just do not see how whatever Tony makes available will be a much improved "Raiders" offering compared to what Todd currently makes available. ...

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thanks, junior

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Thanks _. I guess they just differed on tastes of jacket design. You know what? It would've been nice if Ford was wearing a Todd's Custom jacket in CS. Oh well. Thanks again for detailed input.

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_ wrote: "Each of Bernie's predecessors were fired by Steven, and those efforts went nowhere. The jacket went back to Lucas, and Bernie used a different approach..." That's odd. Too bad Bernie chose to make a high quality Cooper jacket instead of showing Tony the original Raiders hero jack...

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Wow. That is a fine job. However, the top back panel is not positioned correctly.

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Why am I not suprised?

Go show Todd....again.

Fact: if you want a Raiders, Todd's custom is the one.

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If the movie is as good as Ford and others involved are saying, then the jacket, hat and pants aren't gonna matter too much to me. But, to comment, it seems that what we may be getting is a very well made Cooper/Disney jacket. If so, fine with me. 20 years have passed so one would think that a new j...

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Go to page 139 in the Dec 2007 edition of Reader's Digest. You'll find a version of the fedora by Hartford York, who sells it for $65. While this version doesn't even compare to some others out there like the lid made by Adventurebilt, 95% of the people out there, who if they saw this hat and told t...

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Jacket collar caper solved: Go to www.indianajones.com Click on Galleries, Click on Raiders of the Lost Ark, Select the 2nd pic where Indy is switching the idol, Enlarge, The seams on top of each shoulder show you that the jacket is sitting perfect on his shoulders, not pulled to one side or the oth...

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puppetboy,

What is the width of the collar stand on a 40R, HF's size in Raiders? 3/4" or 1"? As I said above, I thought the stand didn't look as wide as the straps on the hero jacket, but, maybe they are. I wouldn't be suprised.

thanks, junior

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Something I just noticed for the first time: Is the collar stand 1" wide? I didn't think it was as wide as the side straps. I thought the collar stand was a little less wide at 3/4". Of course, I won't be suprised if I am wrong on this, but, I wanted to ask. I think there is a good close-u...

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I concur Michaelson. No way those are the same jackets, unless water REALLY stretches things. I'd say Wilsons for preshoot promos and Wested's for filming. To be fair concerning the pics, the second one really seems to be pulled over to HF's right side and this would allow more slack for the jacket ...

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Indiana G said, "i'll be getting my todd's custom in a couple of weeks and hopefully wested will get my construction package (it's been over a month in the mail) then i can do a comparison in jacket patterns." and that is something to look forward to. and of course, hords of pics of your c...

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puppetboy said, "Afterwards I decided that it just didn't coincide with what I saw on screen. " So because of intuitiveness and by using visual common sense, he's already changed the arm hole dimensions on the custom jacket, for the reasons listed above, to make it even better. Why am I no...

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Nice pics Bogie. Yes, it does seem that the arm holes are a bit big...something that has been a topic of discussion here lately. It would seem that the size of the arm holes could be decreased when the jacket is made. This would make this area of the jacket more "fitted" as it would take a...

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Man, he left a mark, huh?

Too funny,

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Thanks Michaelson. I hadn't used this before. Hope this doesn't keep me up late. Had a little fun and came across an old thread that touched on some of the things that went back and forth back in 2000 when the Expo was being made. http://indyfan.dnsalias.com/vault/forum/messages/57405.html Ahh, the ...

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Thanks _. I forgot that the Expo went back that far. 2000? Sheesh. One last thing _, are the oddities you mention things that Todd incorporated into his custom offering making it more authentic to the Raiders hero jacket? Also, _ wrote: " In that pic, I would submitt that there may be some &quo...

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Thanks. Hope this works: http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/3926/mkcmpnl4.th.jpg Hmmm, looking at this for the first time in a few years, it seems that this pleat may be 2" deep. We know the side straps are 1" wide, right? Is MK's pleat two straps wide? UPDATE: after doing some measuring, ...

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Wait a minute. I received my Expedition long ago, back in May of 2003. The pleats, from top to bottom, measure a depth of 1.5". I also thought I remembered how 1.5" was what was found on the stunt jacket and this is why 1.5" was used for the pleat depth...back in fall of 2002 when the...

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