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craigjohn

Might as well ad the HJ link to this thread...

https://herbertjohnson.co.uk/products/d ... meg-rabbit

So glad to see Lucasfilm circle back to HJ to make the poet for the final Indy film.

craigjohn

The ribbons are technically slightly different but it doesn't really matter. The major question is, why would you order a Raiders and have them give it an LC bash? The dimensions are different, especially in the brim. Yes I want the dimensions to be exactly like Raiders, but the bash to look like L...

craigjohn

Mark Brody wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:08 pm Has anyone ever seen anything like this before?

Seeing these pics is putting me in a “rebashing kinda mood”.

Cool hat, though.

craigjohn

I still have my cheap 1980s Indy hat made by Stetson. It doesn't have the nice looking liner and sweatband, but it does have a cool TOD label inside of it. They made a grey one at the time, too, and I had one until I lost it crossing a precarious bridge in the NC mountains. This 7Up hat is a nice f...

craigjohn

Mark Brody wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:53 pm Looks great! Is that the sable or deep sable? Rabbit or beaver?

Deep sable rabbit.

craigjohn

Just received word my HJ Raiders is ready to ship. Holy cow, they nailed this one. https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/310700273_440447134891611_7602518700794677465_n.png?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=E6N4K7HGtf4AX-77wFT&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&oh=03_...

craigjohn

Received a message from Mel: In regards to your enquiry, yes as you have seen, HJ like many other brands regularly change and update their hat materials and components over time, this is normal practice and there my also be instances where there is an overlapping period between different designs of ...

craigjohn

Congrats on the hat - nice pics. HJ makes a beautiful Raiders Poet. I took the leap of faith in June. Hoping to have it in a few weeks.

craigjohn

HJ said the hat delivered had a liner that was colored somwehere between the current champaign and current white colors - so a light champaign. Logo wise? I'm asking the same question - however, I noticed this in the Last Crusade... Photo from the inside liner of the TOD hat, as seen on the RPF. Na...

craigjohn

HJ said the hat delivered had a liner that was colored somwehere between the current champaign and current white colors - so a light champaign. Logo wise? I'm asking the same question - however, I noticed this in the Last Crusade... Photo from the inside liner of the TOD hat, as seen on the RPF. Nad...

craigjohn

It's been talked about ad nauseum, but I believe it's generally accepted that TOD and LC weren't exactly the same blocks. The LC block was built off the TOD block but appears to give more volume to the crown. It's definitely higher in a lot of scenes in LC, especially the second half of the movie, ...

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Crusade Indy Hat lining observation I never noticed - and wow. I've watched this movie 100 times... Champaigne lining with red logo shield when Indy first meets Walter Donovan. https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/297192002_10229779956789033_4593662030432576509_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&cc...

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TexHill wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:37 pm Almost a year ago to the day I got married and went on my honeymoon in my Advintage Masterpiece.

The wedding pic in your Indy Fedora is all kinds of awesome. Wish I was there to photograph that one.

craigjohn

When people talk about the plane hat in particular I see a lot of hate. I honestly prefer this hat to the others in the movie. Im only just learning about this stuff, but as a casual observer, this hat stands out to me the way the SOC or even Young Indy’s backwards hat does. I would buy one if some...

craigjohn

I'm watching this right now, and essentially the entire plane interior, from the moment Indy gets into the cockpit, to when they leap out of the plane, it's the short stubby Stetson. It certainly doesn't look like anything HJ produced for any of the movies. And really, when they show Indy lay back ...

craigjohn

The tapered one? Agreed! That one was rode hard and put away wet! The Stetson is the one where he sees the fuel gauge is empty and turns to see the engines shut down. When he turns to yell at Shorty to get their stuff, it’s the HJ again. Regards! Michaelson I'm watching this right now, and essentia...

craigjohn

Late to the party on this, but I'll definitely chime in anyway. :) If you're a prop collector, and not necessarily a "cosplayer" - the fact the Cairo hat is so beat up, it makes for a visually interesting collectors piece - with lots of character and detail. It's much like the Tantive IV V...

craigjohn

Ah, you mean Adventurebilt Legacy. Currently, John is not making Indy hats and says that he's waiting on new sweatbands, but he's been saying that all year. :-k Adventurebilt Legacy. Whatever wordsmithing you need to do define the hat being made on Adventurebilt blocks, using the same techniques St...

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IJJTM wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:52 pm How are you going through AB? Like secondhand?

Is John not making hats again? He has the AB KCS blocks, method and the list of original suppliers…

http://www.adventurebilthats.com/ab-le ... ction.html

craigjohn

Just for info, Raiders was not filmed in sequence that the final cut/movie is shown. Filming started in LaRochelle France, Tunisia, then Hawaii (Peru scenes), and pick ups in the states ( Pan Am clipper). Harrison, stand ins, and stuntmen all used different fedoras for different shots and different...

craigjohn

Well what you're seeing is mainly a product of lighting, color timing, telecine, and, today, digital intermediates, etc. The Raiders hat was not "deep sable." I'd bet money on it. But it was also not the regular sable HJ offers -- it's too light and that's obvious, IMO. To me the closest ...

craigjohn

Maybe this is an inconsequential phrasing quibble; but, in re-reading the thread, I picked up on 'reverse engineering' with regards to the block, and, well I wouldn't phrase it that way. It's not as if someone had to hand carve a new block based on the hat. Assuming what HJ is saying is true with r...

craigjohn

After handling a bunch of hats from numerous makers, including HJ, I feel like in terms of Raiders, they are not the holy grail, I mean look at their SOC alone and compare that to the likes of FedoraRaiders and Advintage. I just feel like they overcharge for their stuff based solely on the name and...

craigjohn

I would love it if HJ had a matching set of blocks from their original Poet hat maker. That would be outstanding - and they used those to create their new graduated block set. But I'm not overly worried about it, as their hats definitely pass the eye-test, and look the part. I know everyone seems lo...

craigjohn

I look at a holy grail as a top of the line accuracy piece, whether it’s with lineage back to the original piece, created from the original maker, or of extreme rarity, or any combination there of. For me, and I can only speak for me, the HJ has… A block that “allegedly” matches the original through...

craigjohn

The poets were made to HJ’s specs. RS made adjustments to the hats. Were the hats 100% bespoke? No. But Spielberg and Ford chose the HJ hats over other hatters for a reason, vs choosing another London hatter’s poet. That’s distinction is still very much on HJ. …and until the original blocks from the...

craigjohn

So if I'm reading that article correctly: ........ * Therefore, what this article from HJ is saying (again, if I'm reading it correctly) is that the Raiders Poet block was never lost because they never owned it in the first place. * However, by analyzing vintage Poets from the Raiders era (we presu...

craigjohn

So if I'm reading that article correctly: * HJ never actually "made" the Poet used for Raiders, as they outsourced production for some products and made some other products in-house—the Poet being one that was outsourced. * Swales fine-tuned the outsourced Poets they received, then sent t...

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I’ve read much of the discussion about the HJ blocks recently, and the discussion a few years ago. I decided to go straight to HJ, and ask them. Mel sent me the following link. If you haven’t read it yet, then for your reading pleasure, I submit this: …and I highly encourage you to read this on it’s...

craigjohn

Love your hat and Indy gear. Nice work. Chris (Mac) and his Quasimodo V2 helmets are certainly very good. He definitely has the general look and feel of Vader. I think it’s cool LFL went to Mac and Bookface (Paul), and used the Quasi as their base for the Rogue One Vader. They do beautiful work. I d...

craigjohn

I've been pouring over reference material to try to determine whether I would like the Idol Grab look or the Peru Jungle reveal look for my next fedora. I know that the scenes were shot quite a bit apart from each other, with the Jungle Reveal being one of the very last shots filmed, and the Idol G...

craigjohn

I've been going through so many older posts, reading about other hat makers who are making raiders hats since HJ of old wasn't making them or lost the blocks?? Long story short is HJ the hat to get in 2020? Would you still go with Penman, AB, advinture, fed iv, etc instead now? Everyone has their o...

craigjohn

I've also owned a bunch of these: ABL legacy from Penman, HJ reboot in rabbit by Jack, a couple original ABs, and a couple garrison hats. Of them, Penman tops out my list. HJ was a good hat, but the crown was too tall no matter how I bashed it. Could you possibly post a picture with your Penman, AB...

craigjohn

S’pose it depends what scene you’re viewing. The hats were so weathered through the movie, and depending on the lighting, the color of the changes. It looks more like deep sable in portions of the idol cave, looked lighter when Indy was at the Idol display. Raven’s Bar - the color cast of the lighti...

craigjohn

Been a long time since I posted here, but I’ve been on my quest to order my Poet, and took a deep dive into watching Raiders and several scenes over and over, trying to decide which version I wanted to my Poet to emulate. And the Idol scene, or more to the point, the Cave walk scene was my choice. I...

craigjohn

Hey everybody, Now that Jack@HJ has been sheding light on so many questions that have been discussed COW, I thought I'd bring up a related mystery. http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/27561966/HJ_catalog-vi_zpsursgyxn4.jpg How many here remember this picture? This was one of those items being d...

craigjohn

I wonder how much that crate is expecting to pull?

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