Favourite Raiders Hat Styles?

Yojimbo Jones · Post by **Yojimbo Jones** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:02 am

No doubt this would have been discussed in the past, but a few special requests that I've had from people over the last few weeks have made me aware of just how varied people's idea of what the perfect Raiders hat is.

I'm wondering what your current favourites are in terms of your ideal Raiders look. Obviously the SoC is a big one, but along with that, what other idealised moments of Raiders hat coolness do you like?

One moment I like which isn't really replicated in the movie is this:

Post by **Holt** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:09 am

WoS.

Im pretty sure that that is the WoS hat in the picture.

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:58 am

I really like the plane fight scene hat, but that might be the same one as WoS. Dunno, looks a little different to me, but I like it.

Ian

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:21 am

oh I love the look of Indy when he's haning off the front of the truck, (

)
Fedora did my orriginal AB in this and while it was close, he also had the rear of the fedora curled up like there was a gust of wind pushing it up , hahaha, well a little steam and some reblocks and all is well. (now if my napatha would come in so I can try cleaning it) sorry back to topic. I just love the look of how boxie it looks while at the same time so disheveled.

Croft

ps: I was trying to find a pic to load up but for some reason they won't work, dang. But I think every one knows the scene.

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:54 am

Indiana Croft wrote: But I think every one knows the scene.

Indy hangs off the front of a truck?!

When does that happen?

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:05 am

One moment I like which isn't really replicated in the movie is this:

I always loved this hat, and while it may be the WOS, the pics make it look a little different to me. It has some weird stuff going on with the sides, and the brim. Which I LIKE! Fedora

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:27 pm

I'm not a big fan of the SoC, myself. Yes, it's iconic and works perfectly within the film. But it looks... well... like it's melting. But in that heat, I shouldn't be surprised!

My favorite hats are the Well of Souls (specifically, the shot where he's nose-to-nose with the cobra) and the Idol Grab.

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:44 pm

Raven Bar...
Has some mystery and intrigue about it.
Maybe because of the lighting in that scene, or something...

indy89 · Post by **indy89** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:42 pm

The "Idol Grab" hat. I really like that tight pinch and the effect the turn has on the brim.

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:58 pm

My favorite hats are the Well of Souls (specifically, the shot where he's nose-to-nose with the cobra) and the Idol Grab.

Yeah, and that turned hat has unturned itself in that one shot.

I have at times kidded a few customers when they wanted that hat. I would say, well, you gotta wear it with the front crease to the side for it to look like the cobra hat! Because, if you turn it back to where it is supposed to be, the hat changes nuances. The turn does more than to warp the brim. Fedora

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:31 pm

Idol grab and SoC. Probably not too far from the norm.

Mac · Post by **Mac** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:36 pm

Raven Bar, baby, Raven Bar! Unfortunately this scene was cut from the movie...

- Mac

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:09 pm

Oh sure you know the scene Indiana Jeff, Indy's grabbing the hood ornamate, then the grille bars and the he does the stunt where he slides under the truck, it's the chase sequence where he's going after the ark after the Nazi's (hate those guys) have taken it, wish I could find a pic to post but I can't seem to find one, anyone else have this shot.

Croft

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:59 pm

Fedora wrote:
My favorite hats are the Well of Souls (specifically, the shot where he's nose-to-nose with the cobra) and the Idol Grab.
Yeah, and that turned hat has unturned itself in that one shot. I have at times kidded a few customers when they wanted that hat.

I was one of your victims on that, too.

scot2525 · Post by **scot2525** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:45 pm

No doubt the Idol Grab hat is my favorite from Raiders! My favorite hat from the entire series has to be the Venice pier hat.

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:19 pm

I'd have to go idol grab for the hat. In fact, the idol grab contains my favorite look for the jacket as well.

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:12 pm

I love the SoC hat, of course. My favorite hat in the series, though is the one after Indy believes he has killed Marion. I think Fox dubbed this the "drinkin' with a monkey" hat. This is my favorite. After that one, the SoC hat and then probably the inside temple hat, before the idol grab. IMO, that one is different from the idol grab hat.

Dave

Flyderf · Post by **Flyderf** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:48 pm

Idol grab is my vote. That is the scene I had Steve model my rabbit fur Adventurebuilt after.

Yojimbo Jones · Post by **Yojimbo Jones** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:00 pm

Yeah, you know I would have thought I'd have more orders for the Idol Grab, to be honest. Well of Souls and the Truck Chase seem to be the most popular that people have ordered, but I'm itching to make another Idol Grab so I can do another set of screen grab overlays with something other than a test hat.

albert jones · Post by **albert jones** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:44 pm

my favorite the idol grab

ajocampo · Post by **ajocampo** » Fri May 07, 2010 7:01 pm

all in all, the Raiders hat is my favourite.
But to be more specific, I'd choose the idol grab.

btw, regarding the first picture, where is that scene from?

IndianaBogart · Post by **IndianaBogart** » Fri May 07, 2010 7:13 pm

I'm with Indiego....Raven Bar hat.

The exaggerated curl on the back left of the brim, and the sharp curve down on the front right...

pwam · Post by **pwam** » Fri May 07, 2010 7:56 pm

Well of souls all the way

ajocampo · Post by **ajocampo** » Sat May 08, 2010 2:43 am

i see...yup...raven bar all the way

Georgia Steve · Post by **Georgia Steve** » Sat May 08, 2010 7:27 am

Well of Souls

KingHamlet · Post by **KingHamlet** » Sat May 08, 2010 8:42 pm

throw me in with the rest of the raven bars. I love that hat. Then the idol grab.

steerpike · Post by **steerpike** » Sun May 09, 2010 3:14 am

I love Cairo over any other style!

Luke R · Post by **Luke R** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:48 pm

I'm not a Hat expert by any means.

I love pretty much every Hat in Raiders. Cobra encounter, Idol grab, Streets of Cairo. All have so much character.

One thing I have not seen mentioned is something that always stood out to me when trying to bash my own Hat about ten years ago.

On the Raiders Making of VHS that accompanied the original Boxed Trilogy release back in the early 90's, there was an extensive Behind the Scenes Documentary which is sadly missing from the DVD.

In the Raven Bar scene, while waiting between takes and camera set ups, Harrison is shown clearly rolling his hands around the brim of his Hat reshaping it.

Just a thought on possibly why the hat appears subtley different between scenes.

Oklahoma Jones · Post by **Oklahoma Jones** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:32 am

As Steve will attest to, I am a Streets of Cairo guy............. there is just something about the well worn look of that hat that appeals to me over any of the other 'looks' of the hat.............. when that hat is on Harrison's head, IT IS ON!!!!!!

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:20 pm

Here's my favorite looking hat style, I just love the blockyness of it. So ya never no Mr. Yojimbo Jones, once I've read some reviews and you can do this, we'll see. Of course the rear of the hat won't be pushed back from the wind, more like the SOC look on the rear would be better.
Croft

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Yojimbo Jones · Post by **Yojimbo Jones** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:39 pm

Mr. Croft, in a few days I think you will be a very excited man.

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:50 pm

I will be counting then.

Croft

Mattdeckard · Post by **Mattdeckard** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:59 pm

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:03 pm

Croft

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:51 pm

My favorite is probably the outside temple scene from the beginning of RAIDERS, because that's the one that immediately comes to mind when I think of the hat; but most of the other looks are fine, too.

Jack

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:02 pm

indy89 wrote:The "Idol Grab" hat. I really like that tight pinch and the effect the turn has on the brim.

I agree

Local Land Surveyor · Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:56 am

Mattdeckard wrote:

And you guy's keep saying the hat has no taper.

Now I see how they got the "swoop" in the brim.

Move over

........

LLS

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:18 am

Well Mr. Yojimbo Jones

Mr. Croft, in a few days I think you will be a very excited man.

Been a few days now, my excitment is waining.

Naw not really, still can't wait.

Croft

Yojimbo Jones · Post by **Yojimbo Jones** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:12 pm

I know, I should be underpromising, overdelivering, not the other way around!

Long story but the weather held me up a little. Gimme at least another 24 hours.

Post by **Michaelson** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:30 pm

I heard from another party down your way that you folks are freezing your keysters off this winter! Keep warm, YJ!

Regards! Michaelson

Yojimbo Jones · Post by **Yojimbo Jones** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:51 pm

Yep, You would have heard right! Worst thing is you'll have a warm day, then freeze at night, but then it'll reverse. Very weird.

IndyMaster · Post by **IndyMaster** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:07 am

My favorite Raiders hat style is the well of souls/flying wing hat. I like it cause it's just so dusty. I like the dustyness.

enigmata_wood · Post by **enigmata_wood** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:31 am

you mean to say he changes hat style!? and there's me thinking the hero's hat never comes off.

Seriously, apart from how dirty it is, even to my experienced artist's eye it changes marginally. I think we make too much of the differences from scene to scene sometimes. But if pushed, I'd say the idol grab because it's the first clear look we get at the hat that became an icon.
Or is that the hat that became an attribute OF an icon - if we stick with the artists' vocabulary? - Icons of St Peter always have crossed key, St Catherine - a cart wheel, St Indiana - the fedora and bullwhip!

Also, it's interesting that most people say Streets of Cairo is THE look, then they worry about their own Fedora having a slight taper.

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:47 pm

Worst thing is you'll have a warm day, then freeze at night, but then it'll reverse. Very weird.

Sounds like New England

And as far as another 24hrs, no problemo, cause if you can do what I thinl your claiming you can do I just might have to put some pennys together, kinda wished I'd jumped at your orriginal offer.

Croft

Yojimbo Jones · Post by **Yojimbo Jones** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:09 pm

Ok Croft, here you go!

Bear in mind I didn't want to do more than nudge the bash of this hat a little as it's about to go out to a customer. You also have to bear in mind ther'd be a LOT of wind goin' on! If you specifically wanted to replicate the front-of-truck look, I could do it more accurately.

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:10 am

Very nice, and if we went foward we'd have plenty to discuss, your right in the above pic theres lots of wind, but it's the over all look of the as your looking at it. When you look at this scene in the movie the back side is all pushed up. Not what I'd wnat, instead a blend. Truck scene in front and SOC look to the rear.

But over all it's nice to see some of your work, someones going to be pleased.

Croft.

Yojimbo Jones · Post by **Yojimbo Jones** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:27 pm

Thanks, yeah, the thing I found interesting is how little the hat changes from the Flying Wing to the Truck Chase, which is good because the guy buying this hat wanted a fusion of the 2 if possible. But in looking at a few of the shots, yours on the front of the truck included, you could see at some stage in there the hat definitely changed a little towards the start of the SoC. Subtle changes from the truck interior to the exterior stuff like on the grill and behind it getting dragged. To the point that it couldn't be prefectly replicated without really pinching those dents in much tighter. Another thing is the lighting, which can also cause some major illusions. I'd rather not post more pictures until the dude gets his hat though - he really should get to see it first!

cheers, Kurt.