Wings Temple of Doom jacket--now in production

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:29 am

Well, its been over a month. Are there any new developments on this jacket or has the project meet an untimely death?

Dave

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:41 am

No, it's still going strong. I called last week and talked with the general manager. He said production of the jacket was moving right along and it shouldn't be too long. He's going to email me when things are ready and I'll pass that info right on here.

HDRnR · Post by **HDRnR** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:05 am

Cool, looking forward to it.

Post by **Michaelson** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:33 am

Same here! I believe this is the longer production set up I can ever recall on a Wings project to date. Should be interesting!

Regards! Michaelson

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:57 am

I'm chomping at the bit, myself, to be honest. The prototype was a really nice jacket and I think it will look terrific in the lamb Wings offers. It's a continual battle for me on when to check on updates. On the one hand, I want to know how close we're getting, but I don't want to pester the powers that be too much either. Hopefully, it won't be long now.

Raider S · Post by **Raider S** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:13 am

Let them take their time on these I'd say. Probably only works in favor of those wanting a good jacket. Maybe after the first week of March would be a good time to check in.

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:46 am

Its good to hear this project is still in the works and that they are investing so much time into it. I guess they have to seeing as how Wested's Temple jackets have sold so well, not that that is the only reason or even a major reason. I've been looking into getting another Indy jacket and this one fits the bill. Hopefully I'll have the funds whenever this jacket is finally in production.

Dave

Raider S · Post by **Raider S** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:07 am

Ulloa, my understanding is they only plan to make 100 of these (at this point) as that was the minimum number required for such an order. I don't think USW has too much concern about Wested, but who knows. But if this new jacket turns out nice and sells well, it would be great if USW keeps it in production and offers it in other leather in the future.

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:14 am

Well, I was really looking into a goat jacket but I really like this one. If Wings kept the run going after the 100 and introduced different hides, that would be great.

Dave

coronado3 · Post by **coronado3** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:29 am

It really would be fantastic if they would morph their current offering with some of the refinements on the prototype such as the slim cut, the stormflap/collar connection and the back panel/arm seam extension.... If they did, they would have an absolute winner IMHO.

C3

Holt · Post by **Holt** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:06 pm

yep. it does doesnt it...

the jacket is based on a old cooper.only with smaller pockets. different collar. thighter body and sleeves..etc.etc...

CM · Post by CM » Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:58 pm

Looks good Holt. Pity it isn't in goat. I'd even think about this over the Wested ToD because the Wings quality seems consistant. I understand the lamb is pretty heavy and strong too is that correct?

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:21 pm

Good news! I talked with the production manager today and Wings is ready to start taking orders on the TofD jacket. $\:D/$ The ordering system for us is the same as with the new Flag Label A2/G1 line they're unveiling.

Email your name, email address, phone number, and jacket size (remember that Wings uses S, M, L, etc. [they have a sizing chart on their website to help you determine your size]) to info@uswings.com. The price quoted to me when I began the project was $300 and I've not been informed of any change, so I'm assuming that price is still correct.

Photos of the prototype (which was in their vintage cowhide) and of the antique lamb the production model will be made in are on the first page of this thread.

I've already got my order in.

ortiz344 · Post by **ortiz344** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:29 pm

i just sent them an email, looks like a i may have to hold off on my wested order

Raider S · Post by **Raider S** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:50 pm

Email sent. I really want a lamb jacket and if the fit of these is a bit slimmer than the normal USW's it should be great.

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:11 pm

Is it safe to assume that these sizes run small? (according to their sizing chart)

Kyle

FLATHEAD · Post by **FLATHEAD** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:27 am

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Is it safe to assume that these sizes run small? (according to their sizing chart)

Not if they use their normal Indy jacket sizing it won't.

There normal sizing tends runs big.

A Wings size small is equivalent to a Wested size 38, a medium is equivalent to a
Wested size 42, a size large is equivalent to a Wested size 46, and a size X-large is
equivalent to a Wested size 50.

Just about all the Wings offerings are an oversized loose fit since they do not
offer numbered sizes such as 38, 40, 42, 44, 46, 48, 50... ext. Since they basically only offer
4 sizes of jackets, S, M, L, XL, each jacket has to be on the larger side in order to fit a wider
range of people in each size versus getting an exact fit by using the regular numbered
sizes like a suit jacket, or a Wested or Flight Suits.

Make sure you know your size, and what will fit you PRIOR to ordering your jacket! If
you are between their sizes, like say a size 40, then you will have to deside if you want a jacket
that is slightly too big (a Wings size medium), or slightly too small (a Wings size small).

Flathead

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:54 am

Just to stick my head in the door, understand that FLATHEAD is making the assumption they ARE using their standard sizing chart. If they are, his advice is sound, but if they are not, you may get something that will not fit. The best thing to do is to ASK when you contact them with your information. Don't assume anything.

We now return you to our regularily scheduled programming, already in progress.....

Regards! Michaelson

FLATHEAD · Post by **FLATHEAD** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:02 am

but if they are not, you may get something that will not fit. The best thing to do is to ASK when you contact them with your information. Don't assume anything.

Very sage advise there.

Always know what will fit you before you order. The only bad part about asking Wings about
their jackets is that the people you talk to on the phone don't normally know the answers to
your questions about sizing. They tend to just repeat whats on the website, and don't know
how the jackets are made, how the garment measurements run, or whether or not a numbered
size is equivalent to one of their standard sizes.

I would send Sarge an e-mail about this, and get it straight from the horses mouth.

Like Michaelson said, don't "assume" anything.

Flathead

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:07 am

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:50 am

I would also suggest talking to them (or discuss sizing in your email if you have questions) as the ToD jacket should be a bit more tapered than their other offerings.

Raider S · Post by **Raider S** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:11 am

I'm waiting to hear back from the email I sent last night.

coronado3 · Post by **coronado3** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:12 am

Anyone heard any sizing info from wings yet?

C3

Raider S · Post by **Raider S** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:05 pm

Still no reply.

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:19 pm

Ditto........sent email yesterday AM

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:57 pm

I got an email back from them after I sent my order in. I'd just call them and make sure that your email made it through and discuss sizing with them while you have them on the line. They're very nice to talk with (and believe me I've tested their patience calling with update questions on this jacket

).

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:18 am

I'm still waiting on the email i sent them 2 days ago...

Kyle

Arca Perdida · Post by **Arca Perdida** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:04 pm

Browncoat wrote: Any one have the US Wings Indy in antique lamb? I wonder how it looks after the newness is gone.

I have one, although it was one of their clearance imports a couple of years back. I don't know how the leather compares to their current, US-made ones.
Here it is, new, then a few months later. Only thing that happened to it was a soaking.

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:21 pm

How much do you wear it , love the way it's distressed especially around the collar........

Arca Perdida · Post by **Arca Perdida** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:27 pm

Gets worn almost daily for 7/12 months of the year. I don't abuse it, but don't baby it either. Gets thrown on a chair at the end of the day.

coronado3 · Post by **coronado3** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:40 pm

That is one fantastic looking leather!

Post by **Michaelson** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:44 pm

What's so ironic is a lot of them were returned BECAUSE the leather looked like that.

Regards! Michaelson

coronado3 · Post by **coronado3** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:49 pm

why the heck would anyone return an Indy jacket that looks like that???????????

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:08 pm

Was down office today and sense hadn't gotten reply on email yet,decided to try calling....imagine my suprise when Sarge was the one who answered....what a delightful guy to talk to.....basically said jackets are being cut/assembled and should get a reply to email in "2-3" weeks when ready to be shipped to get payment info etc......he didn't know anwers to size/measurement questions ie chest size,lengths for large or XL....so I guess I'll just wait to hear from them ......the price is $300........

bigrex · Post by **bigrex** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:02 pm

Does your lamb still look like the photo taken a few months later?

ortiz344 · Post by **ortiz344** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:44 pm

Hatch wrote:...and should get a reply to email in "2-3" weeks

I dont know but...i think thats pretty LAZY...

Arca Perdida · Post by **Arca Perdida** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:06 pm

bigrex wrote:Does your lamb still look like the photo taken a few months later?

I believe so. There's some wear on the elbow where it almost looks like it was sanded down. I think just from driving and resting my elbow on the center console. The rest looks about like the pics above.

Raider S · Post by **Raider S** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:37 pm

ortiz344 wrote: I dont know but...i think thats pretty LAZY...

I would be nice to to get a confirmation, but I'll just wait.

Browncoat · Post by **Browncoat** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:55 pm

Looks good! I love how the pocket flaps took on a better shape AFTER the water treatment.

CM · Post by CM » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:32 am

Browncoat wrote:Looks good! I love how the pocket flaps took on a better shape AFTER the water treatment.

Isn't that Palton's old "pull when wet" routine? I did it to my wested LC. It works okay but looks like it's been stretched and not cut that way to me.

Yojimbo Jones · Post by **Yojimbo Jones** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:12 am

CM wrote:Isn't that Palton's old "pull when wet" routine? I did it to my wested LC. It works okay but looks like it's been stretched and not cut that way to me.

You've just got to pull horizontally to even the wrinkles out a bit.

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:56 am

ortiz344 wrote:
Hatch wrote:...and should get a reply to email in "2-3" weeks
I dont know but...i think thats pretty LAZY...

Not really, he said it'd be 2-3 wks till ready to ship and would email and get payment info then........

Arca Perdida · Post by **Arca Perdida** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:28 am

Yojimbo Jones wrote:
CM wrote:Isn't that Palton's old "pull when wet" routine? I did it to my wested LC. It works okay but looks like it's been stretched and not cut that way to me.
You've just got to pull horizontally to even the wrinkles out a bit.

Yes, I did pull on it to stretch. And the wrinkles are gone now, but the shape remains.

But back on topic... Any news on the new jacket?

ortiz344 · Post by **ortiz344** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:40 am

Hatch wrote:
ortiz344 wrote:
Hatch wrote:...and should get a reply to email in "2-3" weeks
I dont know but...i think thats pretty LAZY...
Not really, he said it'd be 2-3 wks till ready to ship and would email and get payment info then........

you dont mind waiting 3 weeks to get a REPLY to an email?
I think 3 days is virtually unacceptable for a prospective customer...

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:58 am

Well I had spoken to him in person and gotten info I wanted, but I agree with your point.....

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:05 pm

Maybe you folks should re-read what was actually said regarding an email reply:

basically said jackets are being cut/assembled and should get a reply to email in "2-3" weeks when ready to be shipped

Regards! Michaelson

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:11 pm

And thats why your the Knower of Things! I hope I can free up some funds in time to pick this one up.

Dave

ortiz344 · Post by **ortiz344** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:30 pm

Michaelson wrote:Maybe you folks should re-read what was actually said regarding an email reply:

basically said jackets are being cut/assembled and should get a reply to email in "2-3" weeks when ready to be shipped
Regards! Michaelson

...but a customer email ISNT worth responding to before then, thats a joke right?

Raider S · Post by **Raider S** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:32 pm

Yes, a simple confirmation would be nice to know if they got the email and it didn't get bounced into the SPAM folder. But I'm just going to wait and when people start hearing I'll worry then if I haven't yet.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:04 pm

Joke? Why would I joke about that, ortiz344 ? Did you see a smilie attached to my post?

Folks DO get a simple confirmation on first contact. The '3 weeks to email' was attached to the shipment confirmation post above. It had nothing to do with initial contact.

If you haven't received an intitial confirmation, you best suspect they didn't get your original email in the first place. They pride themselves on immediate response.

Raider, if an email got bounced into a spam folder and they didn't receive it, how can they let YOU know if THEY don't know?

That reminds me of an old IT guru we used to have at the Univerisity who actually sent out an email to all staff and faculty that said, to paraphase, 'This is a test email of the new university mail server. If you did NOT receive this email, please let me know just as soon as possible so we can make corrections to the server encoder to include you in the next test. If you HAVE received this email, you need do nothing.'

Regards. Michaelson