Club Obi Wan

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I've had my cowhide TOD now for over 2 years. My only regret is that I didn't get a distressed version, because the thing is so tough it'll never really naturally distress. Even though my cowhide was tough, I also wanted a 'bullet proof' version so: - goatskin - handwarmer pockets sewn shut Its goin...

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I voted no, just to be different. :) Although the Raiders and ToD do have very different collars - I actually greatly prefer the ToD style collar. And as to the length...well Wested make a lot of jackets and they don't seem to worry about getting length right to the millimeter. My Raiders and ToD ar...

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The kangaroo is the largest land animal native to Australia so it was a logical choice. I think roo is used primarily as part of the tradition more than anything. :lol: Australia has been primarily a beef eating nation for 200 years, as is America....which may be why we're right behind America in t...

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I think the Wested new cowhide is heavy just cause....its a heavy jacket

I've been wearing mine for 6 months now and it doesn't feel stiff or uncomfortable, it just has a noticeable weight to it.

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However... I'm still not sure about the leather type. I'm getting a ToD. Here's the situation: I'm going to Greece this summer and I want to take it with me and wear it without the jacket cooking me alive... if ever this is possible with 40°C. Anyway, I need to take a jacket with me, so why not a W...

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They had a massive push a few years ago to sell Dr Pepper here (Australia).

It didn't work.

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as for softening up stiff leather.
Put it in a pillowcase and beat it with a broom.

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hmmm, haven't had much rain here yet...

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I've also had my dark brown cowhide for 6 months. I wish the thing would wear in more. I percarded (is that a word :D ) heavily when I first got it. I've worn it 6 months straight, with no caution or care, thrown it on the couch/floor/chairs and left it in a heap when I'm not wearing it - and it sti...

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Try being in Australia.

The customs charge is enormous.

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HORSEHIDE !!!

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Mine has all cotton body, I don't think it causes ride up with shirts.

You have to adjust the shirt sleeves underneath when first putting it on
but other than that its fine.

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I wouldn't get gussets this time. They may be useful in other jackets but unless they are big enough they don't really do anything useful - as I believe is the case with the ones Wested installed in my jacket... If I ordered another jacket I'd get goatskin for something different. I love my cowhide ...

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I think it should be an option NOT to put it in there, just for those who like to have as much authenticity as possible. I had it put in mine (thanks Peter!) and it works great. I think (I could be wrong), the average customer would much rather have it in there instead of trying to figure out why th...

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I only know Peter didn't charge me for elastic in the action pleats. He did charge for gussets....which I know some received no charge, so who know, luck of the draw !? :) The way mine works, the gussets still open nicely when body movement dictates they should, but they remain closed otherwise. che...

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Sssshhhhhhhh

Our only hope is that Peter doesn't wake up and come to his senses.

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thread contains pics of my ToD jacket. Pockets are visible in some pics.
http://www.indygear.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5450

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That really ***** man!
Have you talked to Wested/Peter.
There may be a reason the jacket size was upd to a 50

It doesn't sound like its your fault.

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Interesting responses.
So its not just me.

In the future I'm looking at getting a black Indy jacket from Wested, it won't include gussets

A black indy jacket would rule!

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Hi all, Am interested in getting peoples thoughts here. I've been wearing my cowhide ToD for about a month and a half now and I don't believe the gussets do anything at all. Maybe the 'jaggerlips style' does more, or maybe its the way Wested construct them (I know Peters opinon is a well made jacket...

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Cool!

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Isn't that always the way. A 'friend of a friend' always does the most interesting things

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I think its personal preference more than anything.

I have read that the Drings have trouble on the thin leathers (ie. lamskin)
I have cowhide and they work fine (and I think look great!)

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the link has pics and specs of my ToD cowhide jacket.
http://www.indygear.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5450

Its not 100% screen accurate though because....well because I don't care about that

It'll at least give an idea of the ToD in cow though...

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If it is too warm for a Cowhide, in my opinion, it's too warm for a jacket.

this is also my opinion. If its too warm to wear my jacket I'll be in a t-shirt.
I mean I love the indy jacket, but not so much that I have to wear it in any temperature.

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The goatskin is supposed to be lighter and thinner than the cowhide. Its also stronger. Cowhide is still very strong, but heavier and thicker - so much warmer. (which is why I went with the cowhide) I don't think there would ever be an issue between predistressed cowhide and normal cowhide in regard...

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Farnham -
wow!

Nice jacket. Makes me wish I'd ordered my cowhide in the predistressed look (now that I'm realising how tough it is, its never gonna look like that...)

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Does anyone have any links to pictures of the jacket ?
I had a look on Vansons website and it seems to be orderable, but no pics or info.

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It is a great leather jacket.

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ob1al -

I'm experiencing the same thing as you but don't think its a problem really.

With my arms down by my side the sleeves come to the knuckle of my thumb. I think this is too long, and am hoping (as I've read here) that over time they will creep up a bit.

When driving they are fine.

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what happens if it tears off , how durable is it? hmm hmmm if your worried, don't get it. :D Everything else about Wested seems to be high quality, I doubt they used the worst, cheapest elastic they could find. If it snaps after however many years, I guess my jacket will be like the other thousands...

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IndianaJames -
did you not like the jacket ?

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Pics please ?

Am interested to see how your Raiders cowhide looks compared to my ToD cowhide.

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I'd like to get the Lethal Weapon IV jacket made out of goatskin.
That'd be pretty cool.

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I think my suspicions may have been confirmed. My mother used to do her own clothes making many years ago and I asked her about the extra front length. Her response was, 'you don't have a gut, you don't need it'. There doesn't look to be anything wrong with that jacket at all. It looks like bad post...

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3 jackets in one year !?

Does anyone know what the record is ?

How about the record for greatest total number ?

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Wow thats freaky.

I didn't even realise at first that they were two different jackets!

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OK, guys - listen to this... I've just got an info I am to pay OVER 50% of the jacket's price as a custom fee and VAT... My great country which takes 40% of my income every month has suprised me once more. Income tax is higher than that in Australia :? Jeez at over 50% of the jacket price, how much...

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Kentucky Blues I want that jacket. It puts my wested Raiders to shame. Wested Raiders is too short, not longer like ToD. I Shall get a Tod next. Thanks for posting about your jacket. Jeez, you can't get a better compliment than that for your jacket! 8) Indycraze71 Great looking jacket pal. Nice fit...

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Now updated with photos, at top of thread in first post !!

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I think I've landed firmly in the Michaelson camp on gear distressing.

While a part of me is thinking, that really looks like a screen used Indy jacket, the greater part of me just wants to say 'go to your room and think about what you've done!'

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They sure are. Heavier and, when new, MUCH stiffer. Once broken in, though, they last several lifetimes.Top end of the 'leather toughness' scale, even higher than goatskin. Regards. Michaelson

Thanks for the reply!

So have people annoyed Peter about adding horsehide as an option ?

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golpeo -

I work out in Blackburn and can luckily avoid the city drive!

$350 Australian !!!!
Man that is brutal. There is just no way to justify that.

I actually thought to myself, 'jeez at least I didn't order the Flightsuit, then my bill would have been enormous'

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Actually, if we want to look at what Indy's jacket WOULD have been made out of, you must consider the time it is supposed to be taking place. If indeed, it is the late 1930's to early 1940's, then his jacket would probably be made from Horsehide. I've never worn a horsehide jacket. Are they heavier...

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The picture of the US Wings cowhide looks amazing! It looks like its been through its share of tombs and jungles 8) Well allow me to retort! The only tangible fact here is that the Raiders jacket IS lambskin. Period. About it being "obvious" that it was supposed to made out of some other t...

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I could understand if someone wanted a flightsuit jacket over a Wested. If you've got the money, they are apparently super high quality. But why a US Wings ? I don't understand this. I never really hear people rave about them like an FS or a Wested. (US Wings owners please post your rave!) The Weste...

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Yeah If I ever get another one, it'll be on a European holiday and I'll WEAR the thing back into the country flipping customs the bird as I go through the gates

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Wested rules.

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Dan - No it doesn't make any difference where you get it sent to.. The jacket was to be sent to my home address. I had it changed to work address after customs rang me, because I needed to pay them money and sign for it (obviously I wasn't going to be at home to do that...) Your bag probably doesn't...

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Yeah I've seen this before from small vendors for some DVDs. I don't know if Wested would be willing to do this or not. If I had known it would be so much, I would have asked :? Not that it makes any difference to me now, but It would be nice if they would take pity on Aussie Indy lovers in the futu...

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I know Peter no longer uses the "x" stitch on the strap and they seem to be a little shorter than before Ah that might explain my confusion. Mine are fairly short and don't bother me. I remember reading in various posts that you were supposed to tuck them to your pockets, and I'm thinking...

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