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A novel and well-reasoned approach. I only wish it didn't bring my own shortcomings so unhappily to mind.

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Hi Riku, I've just been catching up on cow posts after an absence of several months and, having read this entire thread (which seems to have been "dormant" for a few months) I am curious about whether you have finished this whip yet or had to set it aside for the time being. If you've fini...

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Hi Fuzz,

You can always try adding weight with solder... heavy, inexpensive and precise.

Good luck.

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Another great COW discussion! My only contribution, slight at best, might frame the weight/balance question in terms of a fulcrum ( that being the user's hand) and its associated lever, the handle and thong. The energy necessary to create movement in the lever is lowest when its total weight is even...

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Impressive...beautiful, imaginative implementations and a singular approach to design. Congrats - real keepers!

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And here I thought I'd already hit myself in every way possible...it never occurred to me to actually put a target on my body....this has real possibilities. I wonder if I can hold a target with one of my eyelids? But seriously, it's obvious you've put in a lot of practice and have skill, so keep it...

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Gary I wouldn't insult you by foisting that drek in your direction

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Very nice Franco...one for each of the four horsemen... ;-)

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Hi Paul, There can be no question that you're correct....experience above all. Current research across multiple disciplines (from chess to basketball to diamond cutting) states that expertise requires in the ballpark of (with surprising, but not total, similarity) 10,000 hours of experience to reach...

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Gary,

I'd not seen that....excellent resource! THANKS!

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Absolutely stunning....congrats!

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Louie, That couldn't be more important, I agree. You'd also need a mechanism that performs the chosen throw or throws in exactly the same way every time, a set of performance criteria that provide data relevant to the question, and a means of capturing that data. On your point, I agree it's a seriou...

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Hi, So I've been training in kung-fu and tai-chi for 14 years, and instructing both for about 11 years. I feel odd about opening a forum posting with that but it's why I feel confident to make a few suggestions. First and foremost, if you can, move away from the situation, but cover your retreat car...

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Hey there Paul! I hope you had a great trip! First, thanks very much for the extensive and broad response....putting everyone's thoughts together on this topic, I have to take a step back to comment on the collective wisdom and willingness to share that is on display here...it's deeply admirable, si...

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Hi Louie,

Beautifully put. I hope you don't mind that I paraphrased you earlier...I just very much enjoyed your statement (somewhere on COW) on trying for perfection.

Take care,
Keith

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Hi Gary, I apologize...I pasted a line of text where I should have cut! If you would, please post what you experience as you work the whips...I think the curve issue (now it's an "issue"? I'm probably mischaracterizing it) is a lens on understanding how the "guts" of whips drive ...

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Gary, The first (black) whip is as you describe for challenges but you failed to mention the unimpeachable hande, textbook Turk's heads, and machine-lathed strand edges....and the thong was probably challenging because it has so much meat in it....it looks like a 40's style blackjack on steriods.......

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Louie,

Interesting comments on your blog (and darn cute whip for your little girl!) but I'm still curious to hear your analysis of how 4 -plaited belly whip handles....

And I forgot to mention the taper on your 4 braided belly whip...so smooth.!

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Hey Gary,

I wanna see your whip!

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Hi Paul, I've got two 4'ers, one 6', one 7', one 9', three 10' and one 11'7" working whips I've felt good enough about not to recycle them; the pile in the pics are the irredeemables. Nevertheless the first whip I felt was good enough to get feedback on is the one above. I've got 3 new one in s...

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Hey Louie, So of course I'm intensely curious about your assessment of handling (etc.) characteristics of your all-braided whip v. your bolster whips. I don't mean to suggest nor do believe one is intrinsically "better", but certainly, they are "better" than one another for this ...

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Gary, Thanks for the compliment ! The handlle is 15/16" at the butt tapering up to 1 & 1/8" just before the transition knot. Cool that you're a newbie too...have you posted any whip pics? I'm right there with you that it takes a lot longer to plait a belly than use a bolster although I...

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Hey Aldo, You're exactly correct about the taper....I'm trying for lots of power in general but working for both target accuracy (hence taking the fifth belly at 20 plait well out along the thong before starting to taper off the strands) and a quick transfer of energy for cracking (accelerating the ...

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Wow...I read you statement on bolsters (and everything else on your site, actually) and you've obviously put a great deal of thought into this issue. I'd not considered, for instance, your conclusions around bolsters, whip stiffness and breaking in periods, among other things. Thanks for giving me s...

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Hey Franco, Please - sell me, sell me! I know you guys are the learned hands and I unreservedly believe and accept what you've so kindly provided...I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with anything anyone has said and in fact, I can't fathom being anything but eager to hear more and apply it.......

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Hey Louie, Yeah, I know the high plait count in the last bellly is weird but when I do this again next time all the bellies will have at least as many strands as the overlay. I know it's indefensible but I think having bellies with at least as many plaited strands as the overlay might be interesting...

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Hi Scott, Thanks very much for your pricepoint analysis....another critical issue that has never crossed my mind. And boy do I hear you on hide costs....I approached this whole effort as a "hobby" and started order roo hide right away; I'm trying not to think about how many Morgans, Strain...

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First off....thanks for the booster Allen, and the heretofore unrecognized (at least by me) anatomical implications of my overly generous, um, er, handle ends. :-) Franco, You were bright-eyed to snap out as first business that there many ways to make whips - I would bet lifetimes on lifetimes of le...

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Hey there Franco, It is a monster, and your point re: the butt knot is 5x5 dead on. I've experimented with odd and ends of lead pipe connectors, heavy bolt nuts, and coins to provide counterbalance on the whips I've made (none of the others made it through the subsequent "how did I screw this o...

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Diabolical looking duo...would look at home in the Underworld movies. Wicked!

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Guys I'm overwhelmed....thanks again Franco, Chris, Louie and now Bernardo - btw on that score, I googled for humidity averages and range for my city (San Fran - hadn't realized that %~ morning to afternoon was so substantial) and now am looking to cross-reference with alcohol evaporation rates.... ...

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Hi Louie, Thanks for the tip....the 1:1 ratio sounds like a rational place to start at least. What do you use to apply the shellac? Meanwhile, I followed Chris' link and got great info on alcohol types and thinners and I'm following Franco's opus - dissolving in a pickle jar right now. I also took h...

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Franco....

Thanks again....just repurposed a pickle jar!

Take care,
Keith

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Thanks Chris (who btw has some killer handle designs, among other great stuff, on his http://www.deadringer.com forum!) for the incredibly helpful link and Franco for a full-length white paper on the topic - you guys are awesome.

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I first learned the basics of plaiting from the video of Gayle Nemeth (http://www.aussiewhipmaker.com) and she, and therefore I, pronounce it "platt". In fact, I still hear her voice in my head every time I start plaiting...

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Holy Cow! What is the diameter (or circumference) of the thong at the handle? How much does it weigh? It must be a serious workout.....

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Hi folks, I'd intended my first post to be something less needy than this, but may I ask whether anyone knows exactly how to dissolve shellac flakes? I purchased shellac from MurphyWhips.com but as no instructions were included (as has been mentioned elsewhere here) and I can't find any on their web...

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