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FLATHEAD

As Junior said, I am also not around as much as I would like to be, and I was shocked today when I came here and saw the news about Peter. My first Indy Jacket was made by Peter back in 2002 when I ordered one of the dark brown lambskin Raiders jackets he was making. Back then you could get all kind...

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That is a beautiful color on that leather!!!!!!!!!!!! As stated before, it just looks rich!! The color may not be "correct" compared to what you see on screen, but who cares! That leather is just perfect for an Indy style jacket. Plus the added fact that you sourced the skins yourself, and...

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The jacket is still new. Thanks for your concern. Not really. Once you applied the water to it, you altered it. Its no longer considered "new". Its the same thing as if you applied some kind of leather dressing to it. I am only telling you this because Sarge has been VERY clear about this...

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US Wings. Don't worry, I'm not going to do anything that would risk my return at this point. Because you tried to "fix" it with water, you may not be able to send it back. Sarge does monitor this site, and if he sees that you did something to the jacket, like putting water on it to try to...

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I would love to see the jacket made from brown Cotton Canvas. The Cotton Canvase that Carhartt jackets are made from, only in a medium brown color. Cotton Canvas is tough, wears like iron, but gets very soft with use. Alot like leather. It also ages alot like leather, in the fact that it gets lighte...

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The write up on the jacket, below the pictures, says its horsehide. Its in the description of
the jacket:

"This flight jacket is a Army Air Corps regulation, size 44, horsehide A-2 flight jacket....."

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billyjack669 wrote:I purchased the US Wings Signature Indy in Goat. Thanks for your help everyone!

BillyJack

What size did you end up getting?

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I have to say that they did a fantastic job of matching not only the color of the leather, but the grain also! Very nicely done!! If you didn't tell anyone, I bet it would be next to impossible to tell the collar was ever replaced. There is a saying that goes "You get what you pay for". An...

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Indiana Jeff wrote:he's about 60 miles/100 km from Chicago.

He's got a full tank of gas, half a pack of smokes, its dark, and he's wearing sunglasses...

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Don't be so quick to get so jumpy, what I meant was that recently I've seen a number of threads talking about non-Indy jackets, when I thought that was one of the rules of the boards that's all. I've seen jackets from Surrogates, Captain America, X-Men, War of the Worlds etc. I think its more of a ...

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Does your jacket have a bi-swing back? It looks like it does in the picture you have showing the back of the jacket. That is one FINE jacket! I have an Aero Leather Californian that I bought about 5 years ago, that is made out of russet buffalo hide. It looks alot like yours, with the difference bei...

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Gotta thank you, bud. Feels like your one question sent me down a little path that made a favorite even cooler. Please accept my gratitude and thanks! :TOH: :notworthy: Note: Kelly walked in while I was scrounging through her sewing room looking for the stitch puller. "Uh... What-cha doin?&quo...

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Nice!

Do you have much room to move around in it when you wear it?

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Sarge lined up the purchase for me and tells me it was originally made by Brill Brothers? And I seem to have misinterpreted the dates - the contract date is 1965. The fulfillment date was in 1969. A Brill Brothers G-1 sounds more like it. If you do indeed have an NOS Brill Brothers, you have one fi...

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If there is an Avirex tag in your jacket, I have feeling you have a repro, not an original military G-1 jacket. Avirex didn't make jackets for the military when it was started in the 70's. You probably have a repro from the mid 80's or possibly early 90's. Once you post the pics of the tag, I can sh...

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6. Avirex G1 (circa 1966-67 NOS): This is an old warhorse that I take down when the weather gets REALLY cold. The knits and the mouton keep me warm and toasty. The goatskin is beautiful and the mouton just gets better each year. 45 years young and kicking! I am curious about this one. From what I c...

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Yes the WINGS had black but no kanga jacket I've seen here has black undertones. Can you post a link to some pictures of jackets with the grey color you are talking about? I haven't been able to find one with anything but the black undertones that were posted here by forum members. It would be inte...

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Here is post from forum member Forest For The Trees, from a few years ago, about a Wings Kangaroo jacket he found in a vintage clothing shop. He posted some pictures of it, with the links attached to get to the pictures, about halfway down the page. http://www.indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?f=2&...

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Most of the Kangaroo jackets I have seen in real life, and those posted here on this forum, have had an almost black undertone to them as the top coat wore off. Not the cool looking tan color we come to expect from the patina goatskin, horsehide, or cowhide always seem to have. I don't know if that'...

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The U. S. Post Office used to require payment due at drop off/pick up when they were shipped by Parcel Force....predecessor to the DHL shipper choice. Regards! Michaelson This is exactly how it went down for me. In the past, when I ordered, and then received a jacket from overseas, whether it was f...

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Good points. Point of clarification? Nobody gave G&B a jacket to take apart. What I provided were detailed measurements of the exterior and then only of details like the side straps, patch pockets, storm flap, etc. Nobody took apart a jacket. G&B had to then use what I had and build a jacke...

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What about Gibson and Barnes (Flight Suits) and the jacket _ says he gave them to copy years ago? Aren't their patterns for their Expedition supposed to be a "stitich for stitch" repro of an original Indy jacket?. Its been said that the jacket given to Flight Suits was for the intention of...

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Nice jacket Darkhelmet! I want one of these jackets, and I am trying to figure out what size to go with. If you could tell us the size of yours, and provide a few measurements, that would be great! I can use this info to compare it to what others have posted. Here are the measurements needed: Across...

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Okay, so I don't know why it happened, but the jacket I received yesterday was identical to my first jacket (high pockets). I wasn't able to get a hold of Sarge, but I spoke with Myke. He said the new imported longs arrived today and that the pocket placement on those is correct. I'm not really sur...

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I think the fit of the jacket looks good on you, which seems odd if your jacket is indeed a size large since you say you are 5'6" and about 155 pounds. The shoulders don't hang down too much, and the length is good. It may look a little long because of the shirt you are wearing under the jacket...

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In trolling back through YOUR old posts, Dawg, I stumbled across this one from 2004 where FLATHEAD and I explored this very topic, but in a more 'current events' situation. There's some stuff in there that I had completely forgotten. Do you recall the Cooper being referred to as the 'Pioneer' jacke...

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Michaelson, I appreciate the compliment. It takes one to know one! I remember the old Indy Fan Forum where a picture that was posted was a HUGE thing. It was not as easy as it is today. I remember Dawgs jacket like it was yesterday. Those Vintage Cow jackets had a real old look right out of the box....

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And it had a US Wings label in it...and the Made in the USA tag, too. wish I still had some pics of it to post up....or that I still had the jacket. I have LONG since passed that one on to another fan here....wish I could remember who ended up with it, too.. Yep, mine has the "Made in the USA&...

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Neil Cooper as a person has not owned Neil Cooper the jacket company since... I don't have the exact date handy, but it's been since the late 80's/early 90's? Cooper the company was sold by Cooper the person to USW. So, Flathead? You got corp gobblety-gook if that's what you were told. And in fairn...

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FLATHEAD, I'm only repeating what I've been told. Wings jackets, from the time they took over the Cooper company in 1986 to present, have had all their American made jackets made by Schott. At what point Cooper got out of the business making his own jacket, and when he started subcontracting others...

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Re-read my reply above, Dawg. :lol: To repeat, all U. S. made Wings Indy jackets have been Schott jackets for as long as I can remember. It's just not been common knowledge until recently. Regards! Michaelson Really? Except for the years when Neil Cooper made them? Or the years Sarge said he made a...

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Indiana Bugs wrote:I know the smell of goat....I just soak, cut, and shave.

Mmmmmmm.....shaved goat...................

There's a joke in there somewhere i bet......

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I heard from Myke today who Sarge told him to have a call tag sent out for a replacement. So this will be going back. I'll still keep a XL long though. Its very nice leather and hate to send it back (yes I'd be out of it for 2 weeks but what's that compared to getting the jacket the right way? Besi...

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The back has some white marks on it (which Sarge told me to use Joy or Dawn, or Pecard's to try to take it out) and the left sleeve has 2 different variations of color/leather If you put ANYTHING on that jacket to try to clean it, you will NOT be able to return it! Even if it was Sarge who told you...

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_ wrote:
FLATHEAD wrote:Not to sidetrack, but do you think this stuff would work on non-similar items?
Nope. Try construction adhesive. But - FYI? It ain't gonna come off without using a grinder...

Thanks. I thought about using Gorilla glue too. I hear that's good stuff...

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Use a flexible contact cement. Contact cement requires two stages. First you apply cement to both pieces of leather and allow them to dry apart. Once dry, you reapply to one of the surfaces and allow it to become tacky. THEN you put the pieces together. When done properly, the leather will give bef...

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Most places use three types of fits: Military or Trim fit: Which is a trim, more snug fit, giving approx 4 inches of movement room over tagged size. Regular or Normal fit: Which is a normal fit, giving approx 6 inches of movement room over tagged size. Full Cut or Loose fit: Which is a looser more m...

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Here's what I'm talking about: My Antique Cow (Large): chest width--22.5 in ; sleeve length--23.0 in ; back length--25.5 in My NZ Lamb (Medium): chest width--23.5 in; sleeve length--24.75 in ; back length--26.75 in How can a Medium be bigger than a Large?! I love these new jackets from USW, but man...

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I could use some opinions. I'm in between sizes as well and I think my jacket might be a bit too tight in the shoulders and body. Chest 25" if measured from the armpit seam, 24.5" if measured one inch below the armpit (Not the 25.5 as in the sizing chart) Shoulders - seam to seam across b...

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I hate people like you guys who can get an off the rack, generic size jacket, and have it look like it was tailor made for you!! When you see a jacket, any jacket, that fits as well as you two guys have posted pictures of, it makes a 200 dollar jacket look better than a 1000 dollar jacket! Its pictu...

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blue, I didn't think Holt was being hostile, he was just being matter of fact. Perhaps he doesn't deal with UPS over there. What Holt probably doesn't know is it is actually a pretty common practice to leave a note for the UPS delievery guy telling him to leave a package at the door. In fact, that ...

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well, then there shouldnt be a problem. Normally, its not a problem. And even the UPS note they leave for you has an area on it where you can sign it, and stick it to your door. It advises them they can leave the package on your doorstep when they make their second attempt at delivery. Now, if you ...

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and what are they suppose to do with that signature note on the door? they probably have documents with them you need to sign. are they suppose to copy your signature and pretend it is yours? that wont happen b/c its forgery and is illegal. A signature is required, means any person living in the ho...

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Oh, yeah, man....and if it was a MEDIUM, I'd be very interested myself....either way, pics would be wonderful! Later! Indydawg Believe it or not, I think it was your jacket Dawg, that had pictures posted of it back on the old Indy fan forum, that I first saw, and wanted one. Those pictures of the o...

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Well, there you have it folks, this new jacket has been directly compared to an original Cooper from 2001, and it's a match. It also helps confirm that Wings HAS been using Neil Coopers pattern all along, or at least since 2001, as they've claimed all these years. Neil Cooper got out of the manufac...

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As to the pockets, that's question I can't answer, as I don't know what size the jacket was shown on the first page. If they used the same pockets throughout the run, that first photo could be of a 3x for all we know, making the pockets look smaller. We DO know the one above is a medium, and the sa...

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Can't wait to see it. I hope the pockets are just like that. The pockets are alot bigger than the original jacket shown on page one of this thread. Were they supposed to be smaller like the picture? I read thru the thread, and I can't find anything on the pockets getting so huge. They look the same...

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I have to agree with what you said before. If they would just post some pictures of at least the back of these expensive jackets, they might sell more when people could actually see what they are potentially buying. I like the way US Wings does it. They show pictures of the front, back, some closeup...

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In the description of the jacket, below the picture, it states there is a bi-swing back
as well as gussets under the arms.

So, yes, the back is like a G-1.

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When you refer to "shrinkage" what exactly do you mean? Leather doesn't really "shrink" like cotton or other fabrics when they get wet and are then dried. The questions you need to ask yourself are the following: 1. How do I like my jackets to fit? (snug, regular, loose, baggy) 2...

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