Au naturale -- Hat without liner?

[ijq8]

Does anyone sport their fedora without a liner? I have to replace the ribbon on my Garrison (rabbit) and figure I have to remove liner to do it. I dread having to put this back in (replacing ribbon is scary enough for me). Is there any real benefit or detriments to not having a liner in a hat? Any testimonials out there? Thanks in advance

[Wojtek]

I don't use a liner anymore in my fed IV. It always got dirty. During hot days I've noticed I feel better without it.

[Indiana Jeff]

Michaelson has commented over the years that removing the liner can help a hat feel cooler. My only concern is oils from your head would be in direct contact with the felt without a liner.

You may be able to simply place the liner back in the hat tucking it behind the sweatband without having to sew it.


Regards,

Indiana Jeff

[Michaelson]

It’s all I wear in Summer, unless I’m wearing my Tilley.

I have two AdventureBilts without liners, and even punched air vents with leather punches above the ribbon on both sides of the ribbon. Works very well and has for years and years! Literally!

I’ve even had both hats cleaned and reblocked multiple times and no problem!

Never EVER had a problem regarding contact of head oils (and I live in hot humid south central Tennessee) as that’s what your sweatband is for.

Regards! Michaelson

[jlee562]

FWIW, you don't really have to sew or glue the liner back in place. I have more than one hat with purposely removable liners.

[Howard Weinstein]

I agree with others here that you don't have sew a liner in place if you remove it and then want to put it back in. It can easily be tucked into place under the leather sweatband.

Or held in place a little more securely with a few dots of white glue, which hold the liner down but still allow it to be removed without damaging the felt.

I'm pretty sure all my Akubra hats have used white glue to tack the liner in place. I've carefully removed those by peeling the liner up without tearing the liner or hurting the felt.

[Michaelson]

Believe it or not, Akubra used to HOT glue their liners in. They stopped when we howled at them.

Regards! Michaelson

[ijq8]

Thanks to all you knowers of things. I didn't know you could just put the liner back in w/o sewing it, so that makes me feel a lot better. I don't get to wear everyday b/c of work, so not too concerned about oil from head/hair product residue, and since I'm a bit of hot head anyway, I'm going to give it a try w/out the lining. Thanks for the advice.
ijq8

[Howard Weinstein]

Believe it or not, Akubra used to HOT glue their liners in. They stopped when we howled at them.

Regards! Michaelson

Hi, Michaelson -- I didn't know that. I just knew they were easy to peel out without damage to liner or hat.

I got my first Akubra around 2011 -- when did they stop hot-gluing the liners?

[Michaelson]

About 2002.

[Howard Weinstein]

About 2002.

Well before my time wearing these hats. Thanks to Michaelson and the gang for convincing Akubra to ditch the hot glue!

[Michaelson]

We ALSO hated the fact they changed the lining from red to white, even though it wasn't 'screen accurate'. That was BEAUTIFUL lining.

Regards! M

[IndianaJustin]

We ALSO hated the fact they changed the lining from red to white, even though it wasn't 'screen accurate'. That was BEAUTIFUL lining.

Regards! M

Wouldn’t a red liner make the hat hotter?

[Michaelson]

Uh..... ....no....

Regards! M