Extreme Marksman (Jan 25 at 8PM EST)
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Extreme Marksman (Jan 25 at 8PM EST)
This past Wednesday, the Television program “Extreme Marksman” produced for the History Channel finished filming an episode of featuring the accuracy of the bullwhip. Anthony De Longis helped them put the bullwhip through numerous accuracy challenges including target cutting from horseback and cutting moving objects. The show also filmed footage at David Morgan a few weeks ago too. Its scheduled to air some in early 2009, so more to come on this.
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No problem, I’ll post more on the program as I am able too.
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SHo, Yes, he was using Terry’s bullwhips; mostly ones with the Thirteen and a half inch handles. There was defiantly some very innovative target work being done too, it should be a good show.Can we assume the whip(s) used are of the Jacka variety??
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Yep so have I , in fact here they are!
http://web.me.com/johnleonetti/cracktice/092408.html
http://web.me.com/johnleonetti/cracktice/092008.html
The nice thing about the history channel programs too is you can usually order a copy of them on DVD right after they air.
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http://web.me.com/johnleonetti/cracktice/092408.html
http://web.me.com/johnleonetti/cracktice/092008.html
The nice thing about the history channel programs too is you can usually order a copy of them on DVD right after they air.
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Well, that's to be expected...For trailer music, they're going to pull in some innocuous stuff from a production library that they paid VERY little money for, (for obvious reasons.)WhipDude wrote:Hated the music and the guns and whip sounded terrible. I'm guessing it was because it's only a teaser, but I can't wait to see more nonetheless.
And sound. Probably sound directly off of the camera's built in microphone, and not from the guy running around with the shotgun mic on the boom pole going into, (what is PROBABLY, I can't tell exactly,) a DAT recorder you can see in some of the behind-the-scene's pics.
Plus, raw audio from ANY whip or gun tends to sound like @#$%. Truth is, most audio equipment isn't designed to pick up all of the subtle frequencies that come out of a gun and a whip. Microphones are designed to emulate the human ear's frequency response, but if you're AROUND a gun or a whip when it goes off, you're hearing it with more than just your ears. The vibration in deep tissues in our chest and sinuses, allowing us to FEEL the crack or the gunshot is pretty amazing. Those sounds are manufactured or approximated for most stuff, (the Indiana Jones bullwhip sound was recorded in an alley behind the studio in London. LOTS of reverb from sound bouncing back and forth between the buildings, and THAT was amped up and layered by by Ben Burtt A LOT!) They're out on a VERY flat area at Rancho Indalo, and there's VERY few surfaces to reflect sound back.
I have no doubt they'll pump it up a lot before it ever gets to air. REALLY looking forward to it!
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That's just it. The part of the whip that's cutting the wine glass is the VERY rugged and VERY replaceable fall, and at that point it's moving so quickly that by the time the glass really splinters, the whip has already gone by.
Plus, look at the dust and dirt that Anthony uses his whips in. Look at what they're put through in the films he's in, or that he trains folks who appear in.
He beats the TAR out of 'em!
Seriously, look at that Morgan he talks about training Harrison with in the French TV video on YouTube. It has been put through the WRINGER! It looks like an antique that the REAL Indiana Jones might have carried, and I'll bet you it's not more than 10-15 years old, if that.
His whips are his tools, and he uses them. A LOT.
He doesn't baby them.
What most of us would call abuse is a "Day at the office" for him.
But that's just it. What Anthony does with his whips is no where near the constant abuse that actual cattlemen put their whips through.
And guess what, they still flow pretty, target accurately, and work great.
It's what they were designed for. The conditions they were designed for, and the use they were designed for.
Yeah, he might not be able to hand them down to grandkids or great grandkids, but they're holding up to what he puts them through, and they'll last HIS lifetime.
And if they don't, SO WHAT? You make the kind of money that he makes USING them for performances, exhibitions, stuntman and actor training, etc. etc. etc, and you go out and buy new ones.
Plus, look at the dust and dirt that Anthony uses his whips in. Look at what they're put through in the films he's in, or that he trains folks who appear in.
He beats the TAR out of 'em!
Seriously, look at that Morgan he talks about training Harrison with in the French TV video on YouTube. It has been put through the WRINGER! It looks like an antique that the REAL Indiana Jones might have carried, and I'll bet you it's not more than 10-15 years old, if that.
His whips are his tools, and he uses them. A LOT.
He doesn't baby them.
What most of us would call abuse is a "Day at the office" for him.
But that's just it. What Anthony does with his whips is no where near the constant abuse that actual cattlemen put their whips through.
And guess what, they still flow pretty, target accurately, and work great.
It's what they were designed for. The conditions they were designed for, and the use they were designed for.
Yeah, he might not be able to hand them down to grandkids or great grandkids, but they're holding up to what he puts them through, and they'll last HIS lifetime.
And if they don't, SO WHAT? You make the kind of money that he makes USING them for performances, exhibitions, stuntman and actor training, etc. etc. etc, and you go out and buy new ones.
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FYI I just added another gallery of behind the scenes photos from "More Extreme Marksmen," featuring knife thrower Jack Dagger and his lovely assistant Tonya. Not whip related, but I thought some of you would enjoy the knife action.
Whip Cracking Galleries
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Whip Cracking Galleries
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Great Photos John, you do have a way with the camera.
Just as an FYI “Jack Dagger” the King of Fling is one of the top knife throwers in the world, and in one of those pictures he is actually slicing a grape clean in two, while in mid air! He isn't too bad with a whip either and some of you also might recognized his lovely assistant Tonya as the Whip Cracking Superhero “Creature” from the first season of the Sci-Fi Channels Who wants to be a Superhero. She’s not to shabby cracking whips herself.
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Just as an FYI “Jack Dagger” the King of Fling is one of the top knife throwers in the world, and in one of those pictures he is actually slicing a grape clean in two, while in mid air! He isn't too bad with a whip either and some of you also might recognized his lovely assistant Tonya as the Whip Cracking Superhero “Creature” from the first season of the Sci-Fi Channels Who wants to be a Superhero. She’s not to shabby cracking whips herself.
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I've cracked whips with Jack and he isn't half bad ;-) I've also thrown Boliadoras with him at Rancho Indalo. This has been posted before, but you can check out a video of us on YouTube: Demonstrating Boliadoras. Anthony throws first, Jack second, Jason third, and I'm forth. After that Anthony pulls a set of Boliadoras out of Jason's hand with a whip.
Oh, another note on Jack, he "hand doubled" for Adam Sandler in "Don't Mess with the Zohan". He did the six-gun style twirling.
Michael
Oh, another note on Jack, he "hand doubled" for Adam Sandler in "Don't Mess with the Zohan". He did the six-gun style twirling.
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Yeah he hangs out alot at Rancho Indalo alot with John and a couple other friends of ours. In addition to his work in "Don't Mess with the Zohan" He will also be appearing in an upcomming episode of the TV show "Bones" as well as, as a Circus Fire Breather in an upcoming Britney Spears video the lucky son of a gun! Tonya was also one of the leads in Trace Adkins "I Got My Game On" Video for you country fans.
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Here's the History Channel's page for the show: More Extreme Marksmen.
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Can't wait to see this one. After seeing Adam on 'Time Warp' this is proving more & more interesting. Like I've stated elsewhere, I'm new to the bullwhip, but think that I have found a new portion to the hobby & interest. Takes it to a whole new level.
Hopefully they have a decent segment on the bullwhip. I guess we shall see.
Cheers!
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Hopefully they have a decent segment on the bullwhip. I guess we shall see.
Cheers!
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I just saw the David Morgan blog has been updated with some info and photos from the shoot:
Extreme Marksman to feature David Morgan on Jan 25th
Extreme Marksman to feature David Morgan on Jan 25th
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It's funny you mention the David Morgan blog (http://www.davidmorgan.biz), I just discovered it this afternoon.
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Most impressive indeed. My three favorites were the whip, the archery (splitting water, wow! ), and the knife throwing with Todd Abrams. Tonya is very trusting in his skills for sure. Really enjoyed the quick draw portion with the robo-arm. Man that is some fast action at .24 of a second.
Anthony is very impressive with his accuracy & his somewhat unique approach to the crack.
Cheers!
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Anthony is very impressive with his accuracy & his somewhat unique approach to the crack.
Cheers!
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Aha!! Awesome work. I didn't have time to see everybody, but I saved it so I can watch again later. Meanwhile, Anthony's stuff was inspiring! I think I'll work on some candle snuffing...
My favorite shots were cutting the wine glass, cutting the flower, and cutting the 3 stationary foam cylinders. It was cool to see him reloading the whip so quickly while riding Latigo at full speed.
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My favorite shots were cutting the wine glass, cutting the flower, and cutting the 3 stationary foam cylinders. It was cool to see him reloading the whip so quickly while riding Latigo at full speed.
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So Shane, I take it he introduced you to the horse at the ranch? Pretty cool!McFly wrote:My favorite shots were cutting the wine glass, cutting the flower, and cutting the 3 stationary foam cylinders. It was cool to see him reloading the whip so quickly while riding Latigo at full speed.
Shane
Cheers!
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Man, what a great show! What was that glob of blue stuff on the candle wick? I know it must be there to keep the flame from going out in the wind, but what is it?
I didn't know David Morgan made any whips for Indy IV. First I heard of it.
The show was a real treat for me since I make and shoot longbows, and crack whips. Very nice to see masters showcasing these skills together.
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I didn't know David Morgan made any whips for Indy IV. First I heard of it.
The show was a real treat for me since I make and shoot longbows, and crack whips. Very nice to see masters showcasing these skills together.
Weston
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