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It's been thrown around before.1BAT4U wrote:I had a interesting thought last night. In Raiders during the truck race at the end to get the Ark, Indy gets shot in right the arm by a Nazi. It obviously then would have put a hole/tear in the right arm of his jacket. So, for continuity, shouldn't Indy's jacket in Last Crusade have a hole too since its the sequel to Raiders, Temple being a prequel? And then also by Crystal Skull?
My only possible explanation I could come up with is there is a pretty big difference in his jackets appearance between Raiders and Last Crusade, so MAYBE he got a different jacket in a different hyde between those two periods and scrapped his old jacket.
What do you all think? Has this ever come up?
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JohnnyD97 wrote:Indy loses his gear a lot in Raiders... And he has very little with him at the end when he boards the Nazi submarine.
Whip #1 - taken by Belloq outside Indian temple
Whip #2 - either destroyed under the truck (dirt road and all), left on the Bantu Wind, or destroyed by sea water after using it to lash himself to the periscope.
Revolver #1 - taken by Belloq outside Indian temple.
Revolver #2 - whereabouts unknown but likely left aboard Bantu Wind or taken by Nazis after capture.
Semiauto Pistol - whereabouts unknown but likely left aboard Bantu Wind or taken by Nazis after capture.
Shoulder Bag - whereabouts unknown but likely left aboard Bantu Wind.
Jacket - whereabouts unknown but likely left aboard Bantu Wind.
Fedora - whereabouts unknown but likely left aboard Bantu Wind.
I suppose Captain Katanga could have returned anything left aboard to Indy via Sallah, but I think it's far more likely he would just replace items from time to time as they wear out. And this nicely accounts for differences in gear amongst all the movies - it would be hard to get the EXACT same gear year after year.
I mean, he clearly replaces his one-sleeved shirt at the end of ToD, so naturally he shops a particular style but is still subject to product upgrades and market availability like the rest of us.
JohnnyD97 wrote:I always thought he was wearing a grey fedora at the end:
But that doesn't confirm or deny if Captain Katagna sent him his stuff or not.
That's the one!JohnnyD97 wrote:Hatless in Seattle? Was that the movie Harrison Ford starred in with Meg Ryan?
), and his LC/KotCS gear is the same. Actually, I don't care of the KoTCS jacket is the same as his LC jacket, but stylistically it kinda makes sense.
If you have to try to explain it just imagine Indy buying and replacing his stuff at an imaginary version of Sears. Plenty more jackets hanging up in that place. 
Now you're just making up stories...Michaelson wrote:Yep, and they sold replacement clothing clear through the Depression too!
Regards! Michaelson
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Michaelson wrote:Yeah, and you know they're actually asking about the Great Recession.
Regard! M
Tibor wrote:Also, not hard to imagine him going to his tailor and saying, make a couple pairs of trousers like these...........
backstagejack wrote:Tibor wrote:Also, not hard to imagine him going to his tailor and saying, make a couple pairs of trousers like these...........
From a gearhead point of view this is always what I imagined. His clothes are all obviously military inspired but they aren't actually military issue. He has purposefully had all his clothes tailor made a certain way for at least 30 years or more.
It sounds far fetched for a guy like Indy until you add to that, Indy took his entire look from "Fedora" in LC 1914. He saw a look he wanted, and purposefully set out to acquire that look. The along his travels he found a taste for military styled clothing, and melded the two looks together.
That's just how I justify the differences in all his clothes over the years. and makes sense from a "realistic" standpoint. Maybe not from a monetary stands points, haha.
We see Indy like this as that's somewhat how he's portrayed.... but his clothes and the flashback scene of LC disagrees at least to me.CM wrote:backstagejack wrote:Tibor wrote:Also, not hard to imagine him going to his tailor and saying, make a couple pairs of trousers like these...........
From a gearhead point of view this is always what I imagined. His clothes are all obviously military inspired but they aren't actually military issue. He has purposefully had all his clothes tailor made a certain way for at least 30 years or more.
It sounds far fetched for a guy like Indy until you add to that, Indy took his entire look from "Fedora" in LC 1914. He saw a look he wanted, and purposefully set out to acquire that look. The along his travels he found a taste for military styled clothing, and melded the two looks together.
That's just how I justify the differences in all his clothes over the years. and makes sense from a "realistic" standpoint. Maybe not from a monetary stands points, haha.
You see I can't imagine that. To me the Indy character as written is the ultimate pragmatist, an improvisor who wouldn't go to a tailor if he can get it off the rack. He's a thrifty no fuss guy and the Indy outfit is the kind of clothing working people wore in their thousands all over America at the time.
In the logic of movies Indy's jackets, pants, etc are meant to be the same ones - just as Connery, Moore, Dalton, Craig, et al and are meant to be the same guy.
As gun section mod: I officially discourage any of these ideas.Michaelson wrote:We actually had a member from South America in years past who planned on trying to replicate this bullet hole for real in one of his Wested jackets.
Oddly enough, we never heard from him again.
Regard! Michaelson
backstagejack wrote:We see Indy like this as that's somewhat how he's portrayed.... but his clothes and the flashback scene of LC disagrees at least to me.CM wrote:backstagejack wrote:Tibor wrote:Also, not hard to imagine him going to his tailor and saying, make a couple pairs of trousers like these...........
From a gearhead point of view this is always what I imagined. His clothes are all obviously military inspired but they aren't actually military issue. He has purposefully had all his clothes tailor made a certain way for at least 30 years or more.
It sounds far fetched for a guy like Indy until you add to that, Indy took his entire look from "Fedora" in LC 1914. He saw a look he wanted, and purposefully set out to acquire that look. The along his travels he found a taste for military styled clothing, and melded the two looks together.
That's just how I justify the differences in all his clothes over the years. and makes sense from a "realistic" standpoint. Maybe not from a monetary stands points, haha.
You see I can't imagine that. To me the Indy character as written is the ultimate pragmatist, an improvisor who wouldn't go to a tailor if he can get it off the rack. He's a thrifty no fuss guy and the Indy outfit is the kind of clothing working people wore in their thousands all over America at the time.
In the logic of movies Indy's jackets, pants, etc are meant to be the same ones - just as Connery, Moore, Dalton, Craig, et al and are meant to be the same guy.
1. Indy purposefully attempted to emulate "Fedora" in his style of clothing. One might say he was a young impressionable boy, but according to YIJC he didn't even attempt to emulate Fedora until he was in his mid 20s at best. Sometime between YIJ Hollywood Follies to TOD, his adult self specifically tried to emulate Fedora but with a contemporary military feel.
2. His clothes are torn beyond repair in atleast two of the movies.
3. by CS, his clothes have the vibe of a costume and very much less lived in than previous installments. This is JMO of course.
Add to that the obvious differences to his clothing throughout all 4 movies and it makes sense to me.
I know it's way too much thought into something that was supposed to be as you said, one costume, the whole time.....
As to his copying Fedora - Indy's dress is influenced by that character but there's no evidence in the film that he actually set out to copy the look. My take on this was simply Indy was influenced, perhaps unconsciously by that man. And you don't need a tailor to get a similar look - at that time in the early 20th century millions of men dressed like Indy (minus the whip). Yeah but even in the early 20th century, finding the same style shirt, pants, and jacket style for over 20 years would be hard. Especially finding them all military inspired but not military made clothes. It's why I went with custom/tailor made. (again, I know it's just a movie..... but just for fun I'm trying to apply real world logistics to his clothing). Plus, I find it hard to believe he's had the same hat since he was 14.CM wrote:
I understood all those points the first time - I just don't agree.
. Yep. And the Indy adventures are shaggy dog stories anywayMichaelson wrote:Bear in mind, the 'outfit' we're talking about is his field gear. Most folks I know (including me) have 'yard clothes' that you wear for function when working in an outside environment, not fashion, and we wear them year after year until they fall apart. 9 times out of 10 you just duplicate what you had when they do. If they get torn or dirty, who cares? You just wash or replace them with a duplicate.
Outside the classroom, Indy was a pretty spiffy dresser. Look at the suits he had in Raiders when he boarded the plane and at the end of the film. He had a few nice outfits in CS too when not in the field!
Even his travel hat was different.
It's just his work gear that remains essentially unchanged, and that's not out of the norm.
Regard! Michaelson
I don't think we need to bring in a whole new character, Bob the tailor. It's like needing to invent a time machine to explain why some of Indy's stuff hasn't been invented yet.Do you mean the outfit in Raiders is meant to be the same outfit as the prequel ToD?1BAT4U wrote:We have a lot of neat points here. Maybe we're over thinking it, it is a fictional world afterall, but regardless, its fun to think about!
I kind of feel that his outfit from Temple of Doom was the same outfit from Raiders, but was a few years later and just was a lot more distressed. ie. His hat has a tighter pinch and looks MUCH more worn and dirty (which is probably why he now had a travel fedora).
-Tom
Not sure why you quoted me. I didn't bring 'Bob the tailor' to the party.CM wrote:Yep. And the Indy adventures are shaggy dog stories anywayMichaelson wrote:Bear in mind, the 'outfit' we're talking about is his field gear. Most folks I know (including me) have 'yard clothes' that you wear for function when working in an outside environment, not fashion, and we wear them year after year until they fall apart. 9 times out of 10 you just duplicate what you had when they do. If they get torn or dirty, who cares? You just wash or replace them with a duplicate.
Outside the classroom, Indy was a pretty spiffy dresser. Look at the suits he had in Raiders when he boarded the plane and at the end of the film. He had a few nice outfits in CS too when not in the field!
Even his travel hat was different.
It's just his work gear that remains essentially unchanged, and that's not out of the norm.
Regard! Michaelson
CM wrote:I know you didn't M. I was agreeing with you and then making the point that we didn't need Bob for the reasons you had articulated.
Yeah, poor guy, his business just openedTibor wrote:Bob is not amused...
It does seem that Indy treats most of his nicer clothes as disposable unless Short Round is there to look after him.
