Last Crusade jacket thread
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no Im not planning on doing anything with the jacket...
Im getting rid of it I think...
Im in for a new one in the soft goat.
Im getting rid of it I think...
Im in for a new one in the soft goat.
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uhmm.. okay.. I plan on wearing the jacket....Dutch_jones wrote:You know Holt I think most only really see a lc as a really distressed jacket, and if you havent distressed it that way its not a LC.
you wear a dusty heavy distressed raiders fedora in public with you casual outfit.......if you dont have it distressed you DONT have a raiders fedora you know.
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Different movie. That was Raiders.But didn't somebody (_ maybe?) once mention that the LC jacket had silver zips that were painted bronze (or am I thinking of a different Indy movie?)...
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The zipper in the 'flare' photo could be silver?
The collar stand detail (as it connects to the collar itself at least) looks very similar to the CS jacket
The collar stand detail (as it connects to the collar itself at least) looks very similar to the CS jacket
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Ah, thanks Michaelson. I stand corrected!Michaelson wrote:Different movie. That was Raiders.But didn't somebody (_ maybe?) once mention that the LC jacket had silver zips that were painted bronze (or am I thinking of a different Indy movie?)...
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The collar stand detail is very similar to the CS jacket, but the CS jacket doesn't flare outwards the way the LC jacket does. Maybe an example of Indy becoming more conservative in his later years?RCSignals wrote:The zipper in the 'flare' photo could be silver?
The collar stand detail (as it connects to the collar itself at least) looks very similar to the CS jacket
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Holt you go through jackets faster than Paris Hilton does boyfriends........Indiana Holt wrote:no Im not planning on doing anything with the jacket...
Im getting rid of it I think...
Im in for a new one in the soft goat.
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Don't give up.Indiana Holt wrote:
okay.. I give up... I showed you all a archive photo of the LC hero jacket brass zipper.... but okay..it looks only brass in certain scenes...
The question is only based on the photos. If you know the zipper was really light brass that's another thing all together and I trust you in it.
What can you tell about the collar construction and upper back panel? What measurements did you use and are those things you'll change for your new jacket?
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the wavy zipper in the Raider was because of how it was sewn into the jacket. I wonder if the LC 'flare' is there because of similar reason?Castor Dioscuri wrote:The collar stand detail is very similar to the CS jacket, but the CS jacket doesn't flare outwards the way the LC jacket does. Maybe an example of Indy becoming more conservative in his later years?RCSignals wrote:The zipper in the 'flare' photo could be silver?
The collar stand detail (as it connects to the collar itself at least) looks very similar to the CS jacket
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the chest of the LC jacket is big, the zipper might be a tod to long for the jacket causing the demon roll.
I didnt use anythign. thats the standard wested LC pattern. thats why I said the new pattern is closer then what you think it is.What can you tell about the collar construction and upper back panel? What measurements did you use and are those things you'll change for your new jacket?
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I thought they have standardised on the CS jacket for their LC offering?Indiana Holt wrote:......
I didnt use anythign. thats the standard wested LC pattern. thats why I said the new pattern is closer then what you think it is.
Didn't Peter even say that since they were so similar?
anyway, what are measurements of your jacket in those areas?
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I dont have the jacket here were Im at...
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This hard core ' LC jacket information only' thread has rapidily turned into a Holt LC jacket thread, hasn't it?
If that's the direction this is taking, Hatch's suggestion should be reconsidered:
If that's the direction this is taking, Hatch's suggestion should be reconsidered:
Regard! MichaelsonSomeone needs to move set of Han's LC pics to this thread........talk about definition of LC jacket....
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Where's _ to chime in with info from the LC write up ??
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OK. Maybe later?Indiana Holt wrote:I dont have the jacket here were Im at...
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He's offline working, we've been told.Hatch wrote:Where's _ to chime in with info from the LC write up ??
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Ask and ye shall recieve:Michaelson wrote: This hard core ' LC jacket information only' thread has rapidily turned into a Holt LC jacket thread, hasn't it?
If that's the direction this is taking, Hatch's suggestion should be reconsidered:Regard! MichaelsonSomeone needs to move set of Han's LC pics to this thread........talk about definition of LC jacket....
Han Jones in his LC Gear
Distressing in the Sun
The Han Jones Collection: Wested 2003, Wested 2008, Nowak 2009
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In this photo Han's jacket has that same shoulder effect http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/imag ... 69b280.jpg
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rigth! we need some new blood in here...Michaelson wrote: This hard core ' LC jacket information only' thread has rapidily turned into a Holt LC jacket thread, hasn't it?
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But Han's jacket is wrong, isn't it? I mean at least the pockets are off.
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not that far off actually. They are 7 x 8 and maybe should be 7 x 7.5. not too big a differencemaboot38 wrote:But Han's jacket is wrong, isn't it? I mean at least the pockets are off.
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And more pointy.
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The main difference that jumps out at me between Han's jacket and the movie one is the sharper collar points. This isn't a critique of Han's jacket as I love it, but the LC collar tips were more round. There seems to be at least a couple of jackets with varying degrees of "roundness" to the tips. The collar tips that Dutch_Jones posted seem to be more round than some of the other jackets.
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One of the photos Holt posted has a less 'round' collar tip similar to Han's.crismans wrote:The main difference that jumps out at me between Han's jacket and the movie one is the sharper collar points. This isn't a critique of Han's jacket as I love it, but the LC collar tips were more round. There seems to be at least a couple of jackets with varying degrees of "roundness" to the tips. The collar tips that Dutch_Jones posted seem to be more round than some of the other jackets.
The thing for us to remember about his jacket is he asked for those things, the pocket flaps, collar etc. So comparing them directly to the movie jacket as being 'wrong' is wrong.
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If this were a thread about Han's jacket preferences, then I would agree, but this is a thread about THE LC jacket, it is isn't wrong, it is right.RCSignals wrote:One of the photos Holt posted has a less 'round' collar tip similar to Han's.crismans wrote:The main difference that jumps out at me between Han's jacket and the movie one is the sharper collar points. This isn't a critique of Han's jacket as I love it, but the LC collar tips were more round. There seems to be at least a couple of jackets with varying degrees of "roundness" to the tips. The collar tips that Dutch_Jones posted seem to be more round than some of the other jackets.
The thing for us to remember about his jacket is he asked for those things, the pocket flaps, collar etc. So comparing them directly to the movie jacket as being 'wrong' is wrong.
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Saying it is "wrong" is right I mean.
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he's out buying SG some new prada sandals............Hatch wrote:Where's _ to chime in with info from the LC write up ??
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I guess that was the point I was trying to make about bringing Chris's jacket into the fray. If this thread is about THE LC jacket, let's leave Holt's jacket at the door as well and continue to discuss THE jacket rather than copies. We have literally dozens of threads all through the archives that already follow that path.maboot38 wrote:..... but this is a thread about THE LC jacket....
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I agree...BUT....Chris' jacket is a beautiful LC hybrid - I actually like it more than the original. It's nice to have a quick reference within the thread for comparison...Now I will withdraw into hiding...
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I have a otr raider from wested but the LC is really growing on me, and I may just have to get one. nice thread guys,this just may push me over to buy it soon.
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http://s460.photobucket.com/albums/qq32 ... LC%20Lamb/
these are pics of my LC?CS wested under going LC distressing.....SLOWLY
these are pics of my LC?CS wested under going LC distressing.....SLOWLY
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Correct. There isn't much sense in picking it apart, because it's to Chris's spec, not a 'copy'.nicktheguy wrote:I agree...BUT....Chris' jacket is a beautiful LC hybrid - I actually like it more than the original. It's nice to have a quick reference within the thread for comparison...Now I will withdraw into hiding...
It's not a bad thing to have it to refer to as one example. It passes quite nicely for what it supposed to represent
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Just a question, am I thinking correctly that both the LC and CS were based on the 'prototype jacket'......could someone add some pics of it if that is correct.....(so many details to remember and it's early in the morning)
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No The prototype you speak of was the base for the CS jacket. and that prototype was sort of a LC movie jacket ( made after the movie was released I believe, but its maker is unknown. I think it was a prototype for a licensed jacket.
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So still with that time frame the LC and CS are pretty closely linked sort of like the Raiders and the TOD.........
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Wasn't it made by Cooper for Lee Keppler?Dutch_jones wrote:No The prototype you speak of was the base for the CS jacket. and that prototype was sort of a LC movie jacket ( made after the movie was released I believe, but its maker is unknown. I think it was a prototype for a licensed jacket.
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That's right and then the 'protype' was the one the used as basis for CS, by Bernie .....it's the one shown to vendors. (or it's specs)..... is what I remember.....along with a few refinements he wanted to put his stamp on it.......
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No, it was made by Gibson and Barnes for Lee.Castor Dioscuri wrote: Wasn't it made by Cooper for Lee Keppler?
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I stand corrected again... Thanks Michaelson!
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See i was thinking that ! but wasn't sure ! But was it meant to be a LC jacket or a Raiders?Michaelson wrote:No, it was made by Gibson and Barnes for Lee.Castor Dioscuri wrote: Wasn't it made by Cooper for Lee Keppler?
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Only Lee Keppler knows for sure.
The story I have always been told was Lucas purchased one of the G&B jackets from Lee when Lee was selling them through his Adventure Outpost ads. He liked it so much, he asked Lee if he would be willing to make jackets for him for the new LC film. Lee did NOT have the ways and means to do so, and sent Lucas to Peter, as Lee had worked with Peter in the past to make him Raiders jackets back in the mid 80's.
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The story I have always been told was Lucas purchased one of the G&B jackets from Lee when Lee was selling them through his Adventure Outpost ads. He liked it so much, he asked Lee if he would be willing to make jackets for him for the new LC film. Lee did NOT have the ways and means to do so, and sent Lucas to Peter, as Lee had worked with Peter in the past to make him Raiders jackets back in the mid 80's.
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Actually, the prototype jacket was before LC. The snaps were ordered by the customer (someone at Lucasfilm). Both LC and CS jackets are based off of it.Dutch_jones wrote:See i was thinking that ! but wasn't sure ! But was it meant to be a LC jacket or a Raiders?Michaelson wrote:No, it was made by Gibson and Barnes for Lee.Castor Dioscuri wrote: Wasn't it made by Cooper for Lee Keppler?
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The 'prototype jacket' has always been sited as being the Adventure Outpost jacket made by G&B and sold to Lucas by Lee Keppler.
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Michaelson, you and Lee should put this down in writing and put it on the main IndyGear site......would stop a lot of arguments....
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It has been before, and is included in the writeups currently being worked on.
We've asked for patience, but folks just don't seem to want listen and/or wait keep on stirring the pot.
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We've asked for patience, but folks just don't seem to want listen and/or wait keep on stirring the pot.
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Well I'm certainly looking forward to the 'rest of the story', thanks
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I just can't stand the pockets of the current Wested LC design. The flaps aren't low enough to match the screen used jacket.
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ok. thanx for your input.
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I detect some sarcasm in that response...
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