Pounce Bag & Fullers Earth = Awsome!

Ark Hunter · Post by **Ark Hunter** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:14 pm

I bought some natural fullers earth and made a pounce bag out of an old t-shirt. Just dumped some fullers into the center of an approxamatly 12"x8" piece of the T-shirt and folded it and tied it up to make a little bag, so the only way it'll come out is through the cloth. (loose weave)

I patted it on my jacket and it works great! Fullers earth sticks amazingly well to the leather. You can just brush it off. You have to get a wet towel or something.

This is an easy way to "distress" your jacket and be able to undo the distressed look if you want to.

Only down side it it was rather expensive stuff. (about $20 shipped for a pound of fullers earth)

Rusty Jones · Post by **Rusty Jones** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:45 pm

Mind if I ask where you got it from? I'm looking to getting some myself...

I searched and didnt get the answer

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:08 pm

Rusty,
Here you go.

http://www.cineshoppe.com/fullers1.htm

Cheers,
G-MANN

Ark Hunter · Post by **Ark Hunter** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:40 pm

Yep, that's where I got mine. I also found this place.
http://www.wardrobesupplies.com/store/m2_agepowder.html

You can buy the bag and fullers there if you don't feel like making the pounce bag.

Rusty Jones · Post by **Rusty Jones** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:41 pm

Thanks, I appreciate the links

IndianaRedmon · Post by **IndianaRedmon** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:33 pm

Thanks Fellas for the links to sites that sell fullers earth. I've been looking for some also.

Thanks again

Indiana Redmon

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:57 pm

But is it "Michaelson Approved?" The Seal of Good Distressing.
If you have photos, please share.

Ark Hunter · Post by **Ark Hunter** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:14 pm

I don't know. Is non-destructive distressing "Michaelson Approved?"

Strider · Post by **Strider** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:20 am

G-MANN, you're getting to be faster on the draw than ol' VP with the links!

Thanks for the link, I've been wondering where to get me some of this stuff too.

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:14 am

Strider wrote:G-MANN, you're getting to be faster on the draw than ol' VP with the links! Thanks for the link, I've been wondering where to get me some of this stuff too.

Thanks Man, but I don't think I will ever get quite as good at it as VP.
Remember.............VP is COOL

Cheers,
G-MANN

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:01 pm

Ooh...the 50 lb. bag is a good bulk buy...

Jordan · Post by **Jordan** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:55 pm

Indiana Jerry wrote:Ooh...the 50 lb. bag is a good bulk buy...

Yeah, I went ahead and bought 600 lbs of the stuff just in case...Never know when you might want to distress the whole house!

Ark Hunter · Post by **Ark Hunter** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:35 am

Riverwind wrote:
Indiana Jerry wrote:Ooh...the 50 lb. bag is a good bulk buy...

Yeah, I went ahead and bought 600 lbs of the stuff just in case...Never know when you might want to distress the whole house!

Yes, I'm recreating THE SAHRA in my living room! I'll take two.

Rusty Jones · Post by **Rusty Jones** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:17 pm

IndyDoc wrote:
Riverwind wrote:
Indiana Jerry wrote:Ooh...the 50 lb. bag is a good bulk buy...

Yeah, I went ahead and bought 600 lbs of the stuff just in case...Never know when you might want to distress the whole house!

Yes, I'm recreating THE SAHRA in my living room! I'll take two.

Heh I wont, but if I ever end up with enough money, I'm DEFINATLY gonna try and create a screen acurate Tanis Digsite in a room of my house... or if I get the snakes maybe a Well of the Souls...

astroboy · Post by **astroboy** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:09 am

What is the fullers supposed to acheive on the jacket??

VP · Post by VP » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:27 am

G-MANN wrote:Remember.............VP is COOL

Aye.

Captain D · Post by **Captain D** » Tue May 30, 2006 11:33 pm

The "Natural" shade is the correct type of Fuller's Earth to use on the fedora because it contains no harmful dyes...is that correct? I have an Adventurebilt beaver-felt hat. So, this stuff (the Natural shade) is okay and safe to use on the beaver-felt?

Thank you for any replies,
Captain D

Strider · Post by **Strider** » Wed May 31, 2006 1:25 am

G-MANN used it on his, and everything seems to be just fine with it. IndyDoc, what kind of shirt do you use to make this pounce bag? "Loose weave" just isn't giving me any pictures in my head.

Ark Hunter · Post by **Ark Hunter** » Wed May 31, 2006 8:54 am

I bought some natural fullers earth and made a pounce bag out of an old t-shirt.

I just used an old t-shirt. It seems to work. Maybe a dark color if you want to see how much is coming through. I also read those shop rags you can buy at the store work well too. (Assuming they don't have anything else on them.) I think they are basicly the same as t-shirts though.

Mojave Jack · Post by **Mojave Jack** » Wed May 31, 2006 11:13 am

I have a great source of dirt, and it's free (my backyard)!

I have trouble keeping the stuff off my gear. My boots are pretty much continuously covered with dust. Every time I put a treatment on them, it only lasts until the next time I step out into my yard. Actually, everything around here is pretty much continually covered in dust, the furniture, the floor, my truck.... Drives Mrs. Mojave nuts trying to keep the house clean.

What exactly is Fullers Earth, and how is it different from regular dirt?

Ark Hunter · Post by **Ark Hunter** » Wed May 31, 2006 11:51 am

I don't really know exactly. I've heard it's processed dirt, I've heard it's not real dirt, and I've heard it won't turn to mud if you get it wet. I know it's really fine though. Very dusty.

Strider · Post by **Strider** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:31 pm

It's just costume dirt. A powder of sorts, like baby powder. So just any old random t shirt will work? I have a few big rags that I made from white t-shirts over the years. Those work?

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:57 pm

It's just really clean clay.

"Fuller’s Earth is a naturally occurring sedimentary clay composed mainly of alumina, silica, iron oxides, lime, magnesia, and water, in extremely variable proportions."

I did a web trawl apparently some mechanics use it to clean up oil spills.... maybe this is another much cheaper source!

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/learn/fullers.php

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Wed May 31, 2006 1:37 pm

IndyDoc wrote:I don't really know exactly. I've heard it's processed dirt, I've heard it's not real dirt, and I've heard it won't turn to mud if you get it wet. I know it's really fine though. Very dusty.

It is like wheat flour in appearance. If you oversaturate it, it gets muddy. The stuff I have does anyways.

I also use that for soaking up environmental spills as well, although the stuff for that use is a lot larger and coarser in size.

Mojave Jack · Post by **Mojave Jack** » Wed May 31, 2006 1:57 pm

So I basically live in a huge expanse of Fullers Earth? And I get my living room distressed a little bit every day, too. Cool.

Fletch · Post by **Fletch** » Wed May 31, 2006 3:16 pm

I just bought simple generic cat litter and ground it up with a morter and pestle and get a great effect. It is just comprised of small clay chips and when pulverized is grey/tan in color. Anyway, likely the same stuff and cheaper and local too!
Fletch

Strider · Post by **Strider** » Wed May 31, 2006 4:25 pm

I don't think 20 bucks is that bad, seeing as how I got 3 pounds of Fuller's from Cine Shoppe. It comes in this jug. I mean, sheesh. How long will that last? A while! I guess I'm just one of those people that is OK with paying more for something if I know exactly where I am getting it from and exactly what it is before I buy.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:29 pm

Fletch wrote:I just bought simple generic cat litter and ground it up with a morter and pestle and get a great effect. It is just comprised of small clay chips and when pulverized is grey/tan in color. Anyway, likely the same stuff and cheaper and local too!
Fletch

Yes, the clay kitty litter is the same stuff, you just have to get past that mental block thing that you are putting KITTY LITTER on your gear!

That along with the fact that you never usually know what kind of litter you are getting until you open the bag. The white gravelly stuff isn't right nor the compressed sawdust. (I have 2 cats lol).

Fletch · Post by **Fletch** » Wed May 31, 2006 7:02 pm

Yep, my friend in FX school told me it was the same and that is why I went out and bought it. Be sure to get the clay chip kind with no scent or extra absorbancy additives. I think I got a 3 pound bag for like 3 bucks or something like that last year. It just so happened to be the cheap generic stuff. Just for the do it yourselfers who are impatient like me

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:06 pm

From 'past experience' (when we used to OWN a cat), I believe the only plain clay-nothing-added litter is Hartz cat litter in the orange bag. Just about everything else I've seen has scent, or additives.

I only know this from past experience in purchasing product for our now deceased cat's needs, as well as I've found it interesting to read how many folks go through all the efforts of dusting themselves, their hats, and jackets that they paid hard earned money for with crushed cat litter.

No WONDER folks think our group is nuts.

Regards! Michaelson

Ark Hunter · Post by **Ark Hunter** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:47 pm

It's better than shooting yourself in the arm.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:56 pm

That's been asked about before too.....

Can't seem to get any volunteers on that one, though.

Regards! Michaelson

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:27 pm

Michaelson wrote:From 'past experience' (when we used to OWN a cat), I believe the only plain clay-nothing-added litter is Hartz cat litter in the orange bag. Just about everything else I've seen has scent, or additives.

I only know this from past experience in purchasing product for our now deceased cat's needs, as well as I've found it interesting to read how many folks go through all the efforts of dusting themselves, their hats, and jackets that they paid hard earned money for with crushed cat litter.

No WONDER folks think our group is nuts.

Regards! Michaelson

I did that once for halloween. Never again, though. All the dogs in the neighborhood chased me down the street. I could barely hold them all off with my David Morgan. As I ran past, some kid shouted, " what are you, a lion tamer?"

Captain D · Post by **Captain D** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:53 pm

Okay, I gotta dumb question to ask, but here it goes: the other Fullers Earth that has dyes in it...some say it may stain. If it stains, then does it "stain" the same color as that particular color or does it happen to turn to some other color? For example, would it "bleach" a felt hat so-to-speak? Again, I know this is a weird question to ask

...

thunderquack · Post by **thunderquack** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:06 am

Most factories use FullersEarth as a agent to dry up hazardous spills. We have a 55 gallon drum of the stuff sitting on our shipping dock.

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:49 am

I lay the Fuller's Earth on very heavy to ensure it gets into all the nooks and crannies. This is not an Indy hat but the principle is the same.

BEFORE:

AFTER:

Here is the entire procedure

Ark Hunter · Post by **Ark Hunter** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:04 pm

Nice work Rick. You could probably make a good "man with no name" hat that way too. (minus the crock teeth) I'd love to have one actually.

Kris · Post by **Kris** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:19 pm

ooh, film distressing .. time to put a bag of it in the budget of my movie.

Ark Hunter · Post by **Ark Hunter** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:24 pm

Yeah, you dust it all over the film and it give it that "classic" look.