Wested Deal

IndyBlues · Post by **IndyBlues** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:28 pm

Out of respect for Peter, I decided to delete the post that I transferred here about Peters jacket, trousers, and shirt "deal".
Obviously it was a farce, and hopefully COW has "Top Men" working on it as we speak.
'Blues

indy1936 · Post by **indy1936** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:34 pm

BLAH!!! (that's bad)

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:37 pm

Would that be a good "blah" or a bad "blah?"

As a result of this embargo Wested Leather will cease sending jackets to the USA from 05 Dec

Does this mean he can't ship jackets to the US anymore, without buying pants? This doesn't make sense. I searches all over the Internet and I can't find a single news story on this. What is the deal?

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:39 pm

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Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:43 pm

This should be big news. It should be all over the news. Think of all of the companies that could no longer send leather goods to the USA? Companies like Barbour, Burberry, Swaine Adney and Brigg, even Dr. Marten's?!? That is why this doesn't make sense to me.

SJ, nothing on the media over there?

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:44 pm

Hmmmm.... not good. Not good at all. Is this a national thing, or a "let's pick on Wested only" thing?

bink

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:45 pm

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antiquity collector · Post by **antiquity collector** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:52 pm

How would sending shirts or pants negate an order to not send a jacket? Is someone posing as Peter?

This makes no sense and would cripple some busineses (especially Peter's).

OR

Maybe he got upset and had gone to the pub before writing this? (Don't take offense Peter, just trying to rationalize this weirdness).

AC

Mr. Das · Post by **Mr. Das** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:01 pm

How would sending shirts or pants negate an order to not send a jacket?

Maybe the majority of the shipment has to be within law. And since the shirt/pants makes up 2/3 of the shipment, it will look okay????

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:03 pm

Okay, I'm curious. Though I haven't found anything definite on the interent searches, I did come across the following. The link is to a PDF file I stumbled across while trying to research UK's Food and Fisheries Department. It's several years old, but may point to a possibility:
http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/int-trd ... pe0103.pdf

Is there a current breakout of hoof and mouth disease or the like in the UK? The last time this happened, animal products INCLUDING SKINS AND HIDES were prohibited for trade (unless certain proceedures for the skins were followed). I don't know much about the disease, but if it can be carried via animal skins, I could see why they'd want to halt things for a bit. However, this should also mean that the restrictions should be temporary, though who knows how long they could last.

So maybe Peter's current batch could be "infected" or they just want to be sure the hides were made before or after a certain date. Who knows? But it could be a possible theory right now.

bink

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:06 pm

DUH! I think it is just Peter having a little fun giving people a Christmas discount if they order all three items. I wouldn't suggest stayin' up late tonight just to catch this story on the late evening news.

...ummm, why would the rules for shipping a leather jacket with a pair of pants and a shirt be any different than shipping a leather jacket by itself?

indy1936 · Post by **indy1936** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:08 pm

haha great. i think i'm developing a rash and a twitch

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:11 pm

I hope so, Bufflehead! I'm not sure how to read Peter's post. If he's just joshing us, I hope he can tell us so just to clarify things. I'd hate for it to be true, though! After all, he did say it only affects the US gearheads and not gearheads elsewhere around the globe. The whole "diseased skins" thing could be the farthest from the truth, too, for all I know. I just posted it as a theory until we find out what's really going on.

bink

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:12 pm

As a result of this embargo Wested Leather will cease sending jackets to the USA from 05 Dec

Is that December 5th or December of 2005? I can't figure it out.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:15 pm

If he's saying the date in general, my guess is 5 December 2004. They write the date differently than we do (or maybe we're doing it wrong?

) They'd essentially write 5/12/04 to our 12/5/04. Or a least when they spell out the date... I'm just hoping he's trying to be coy about Christmas specials on the trio. If not, then I'm glad I already own a Wested!

bink

Jordan · Post by **Jordan** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:18 pm

If he was being serious this thing would be all over the news...This is pretty big here and could cause many businesses and companies to go under due to what they sell to the US...

I'm guessing it's just a way to roll out a Christmas deal...

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:21 pm

So, bink, this means that none of us have time to buy a Wested alone before December 5th. There's not enough time to have it made and delivered.

or pants free shirt plus #10

Does anyone have a theory as to what this could mean? What is a #10?

Jordan · Post by **Jordan** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:23 pm

Hemingway Jones wrote:So, bink, this means that none of us have time to buy a Wested alone before December 5th. There's not enough time to have it made and delivered.
or pants free shirt plus #10
Does anyone have a theory as to what this could mean? What is a #10?

Plus 10 pounds Sterling...

IndyBlues · Post by **IndyBlues** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:24 pm

I just checked the menu, seems to be that a #10 is actually Chicken Lo Mein with an eggroll.
'Blues

JerseyJones · Post by **JerseyJones** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:24 pm

I sent him an e-mail requesting a bit of clarification, as I have a very expensive order pending with him for a custom coat.

I am sure we'll know soon.

JJ

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:27 pm

#10....ten pounds, the difference in the price of a pair of pants and a shirt. If you get a jacket and a pair of pants, the shirt is free. If you get a jacket and a shirt, by paying ten pounds more, you get a free pair of pants. Same price for all three either way.

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:30 pm

Deal is order jacket and pants get a free shirt or pants free shirt plus #10

So, you get ten pounds off a pair of pants and a free shirt?

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:32 pm

Hey Blues, can you pick me up some General Tsao's chicken? I don't know what number it is.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:32 pm

Okay, I'm starting to think more and more that it's probably just Peter's way of offering a Christmas special.... I'd still like it clarified, though.

bink

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:34 pm

Hemingway Jones wrote: So, you get ten pounds off a pair of pants and a free shirt?

But if you order a pair of pants and get ten pounds off, then they won't fit properly.... I'm so confused. Somebody please pass me some crab rangoon...

bink

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:36 pm

It has to be rubish. If this was true then the formidable military jacket company, Aero Leather, would not be able to ship leather jackets as well. Aero Leather is based in Scotland.

Indeed, clarification on this posting is needed.

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:36 pm

That's why the shirt is free, cause it don't fit anyway.

indy1936 · Post by **indy1936** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:38 pm

Peter had one too many guinness?

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:38 pm

Only clarification that I need is when is Blues gettin' here with the food?

IndyBlues · Post by **IndyBlues** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:43 pm

Bufflehead Jones wrote:Only clarification that I need is when is Blues gettin' here with the food?

I'll bring a poopoo platter. What is in that anyway??? Nevermind, I don't want to know.

Well, it does sound like Peter is giving us all the ultimate deal for the holidays.
'Blues

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:54 pm

I am so confused!

It must be bink's fault.
I suppose only Peter can clear this all up!

whipwarrior · Post by **whipwarrior** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:14 pm

First off, it's not Wested's fault. They're being penalized by something that is beyond their control. Second, the repercussions will be felt far beyond the IndyGear community, I can assure you.

Do they really expect to stop every American tourist at Heathrow Airport and tell them that they can't take home that leather jacket, pair of shoes or gloves that they bought as a souvenir because of an export embargo that they are probably unaware of? I don't think so.

Believe me, there's no quicker way to *tick* somebody off than telling them they can't have something they want, and UK customs is going to find out the hard way. It will be interesting to see how fast the British leather industry is crippled by the loss of profits made from export sales to the United States. I predict that it is only a matter of time before they change their tune.

-Dale

Fletch · Post by **Fletch** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:32 am

Guys this has to be a bunch of @#$%. Think about it. What is the worst thing to a bunch of Indy fans who are all eaten up with a gear fetish? Not being able to get THE jacket from THE man himself right before Christmas! I suspect someone guessed Peter's login name and made a bogus post. I mean our sign on names are out in the open and a password is not too hard to crack. Maybe the Site admin can compare IP addresses and confirm this. Also the language is just horribly garbled at the end. I suspect a non native english speaker... Nothing against any non native speakers by the way- Just probably an over extended theory. I love my international brothers and sisters out there.

This just has to be bogus. What do you say Watson?
Sherlock Holmes out.

Indycire · Post by **Indycire** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 1:55 am

-Space For Rent-

McFly · Post by **McFly** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 2:48 am

Fletch wrote:I suspect someone guessed Peter's login name and made a bogus post. I mean our sign on names are out in the open and a password is not too hard to crack. Maybe the Site admin can compare IP addresses and confirm this.

Very interesting theory - I think it's more likely actually than that "just a Christmas special" idea, because it's kind of a mean joke, don't you think? If it is a joke - it's probably making a couple people cry right now, heheheh... I think we need an Admin IP check. Definately. The pants are definately Calvary Twill, and Peter used the word "haver" incorrectly, as well as spelling his name in inverse caps (i.e. pETER), and to top it off - didn't use a question mark for that last question, "Am I mad."

Gotta be a hacker trying to take away his business. What happens if somebody tries to order a jacket, pants, and shirt combo right now, identifies it as "Peter's Offer," and Peter doesn't know what they're talking about, because it was a hacker, not him, that informed us? Then the gearhead, feeling ignored or shunned by Peter, reports terrible customer relations, and Peter loses business. What was that other company that had Peter's jacket pictures on their site, advertising it as their own design? Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I think it was an Arab run company (not to sound racist - just to help identify the correct company... there may have been more than one that I'm not familiar with).

In Christ,
Shane

whipwarrior · Post by **whipwarrior** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:02 am

I hope that you're right, and this whole thing is a joke. Even if so, it's not funny.

IndianaGuybrush · Post by **IndianaGuybrush** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:36 am

Let me be the first to say, surprisingly, that assuming Peter was being serious and in his right mind, which I consider an assumption worth consideration at the very least, then he will be mightily offended if and when he reads our response to this. Criticizing his language, grammar, motive, and state of mind is not the way to go about this gentlemen. I know you're just spitballing, but this is an open forum, and re-reading some of your posts I think you'll agree with me when I say it could be read by Peter as being very offensive.

Let's watch what we say, try to remember all that Peter has done for us, and give him the benefit of the doubt, something that he has shown us he is willing to do for us, over and over again.

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 6:09 am

EDIT: HOLD THE FRONT PAGE - I'VE CALLED PETER AND THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON HERE.

More later...

Khasra · Post by **Khasra** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:10 am

Edit: Nevermind

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:43 am

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Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 9:30 am

I think we all should wait for what Al finds out.

We should also keep the conspiracy theories in check.

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 10:04 am

OK, here's the score - Peter didn't make that post and in his own words, 'It's a load of c**p' - he's not too happy about it, let me tell you.

Peter's having a new internet connection installed today (so can't get online himself) and it looks like someone has hacked in and/or posted this as some sort of hoax - Peter asks that everyone please disregard the post entirely and that one of our mods (Peter asked for Michaelson) to delete the post entirely.

I'll contact Michaelson, but I know he's not around here weekends so if one of our other mods sees this thread, PLEASE DELETE "PETER'S" ORIGINAL POST in the sticky jacket thread.

And that's the end of that one - however, the mystery of who made the post remains, so everyone please be aware of potential hacking - might be worth changing your passwords this weekend if it's something fairly obvious (ie INDIANAJONES or RAIDERS or something like that).

Regards,

Al

whipwarrior · Post by **whipwarrior** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:18 am

WHEW! Man, I knew this had to be a joke.

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:19 am

Nice job, Al. I am glad that it has turned out for the best.

IndyBlues · Post by **IndyBlues** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:26 pm

Yes, nice detective work Al. Glad we got that cleared up.
Now,..WHO and WHY would someone want to do this??
Seems we have an agitated Wested customer in our midst.
'Blues

McFly · Post by **McFly** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 2:16 pm

My thoughts exactly, Watso- erm, Blues.

I think that an IP check is a must - then mods can keep their eyes out for a matching IP, while we investigate further.

In Christ,
Shane

creamedgeezer · Post by **creamedgeezer** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:10 pm

I'm almost positive that there is an option in the admin panel that allows you to search for members by their IP, if searching by the IP turns up more than one username, then we have our man. I'm pretty sure this option is available on this forum software, and I know it's available on others.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 4:44 pm

MAN! I think it probably IS a good idea to change your password if this kind of account hijacking is going on. I knew something wasn't right. Yeah, if there is a way to trace this thing to find out who did it, I think appropriate action is called for. And if, by the unfortunate chance, this is a member of this forum, serious consequences are called for.

bink. Really, I mean it.

Ace · Post by **Ace** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:30 pm

Blast thoses hackers. Better change my pasword right away. Good thing it wasn't Peter pulling your legs though

)

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 6:12 pm

All is well once again in the Indy-Kingdom. It works like a well oiled machine, having gearheads in even the most remote parts of the globe. A gearhead is always near and can jump in to quell a disturbance at a moments notice. No wonder I sleep so well at night. Nice job, Al.