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In the book "A2 & G1 Hel Bent for leathers" page 30. In 1938 when military officials invited several manufacturers to come up with design samples for the A2 "horsehide ranks 5th on the durability scale, goatskin 2nd. Goatskin is almost as durable as the stiff, inflexibale, iron-li...

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The truth is goatskin are stronger than horsehide and would outlast horsehide weather it is worn or not. I DID NOT say horsehide will not survive after 65 years, YOU DID! Then you went off on one about fictitious account of WW2 and how these jackets been through everyday of abuse. Then you follow up...

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I am a member of the VJF myself, so I know what you are saying. I am not disagreeing with you. You pretty much agree with what I said when you said this: Most of the wear and tear you see in WW2 era leather flight jackets are credited to postwar period either worn by veterans who found themselves w...

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It could be that he measured it around his shoulders as oppose to the conventional method of across from shoulder to shoulder?

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Actually I put my money on goatskin outlasting horsehide and cowhide in normal wear Tell that to the thousands of WWII A-2 jackets that have survived for over 65 years now. They were made of horsehide, and most of them were worn everyday for years during the war, and they were used in alot more tha...

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I believe my Wested horsehide will outlast a TN jacket. My 'ol Wested HH is, to me, the finest and toughest leather jacket I have ever seen....if I had to be dragged by a truck, nothing but a HH will do. :D Actually I put my money on goatskin outlasting horsehide and cowhide in normal wear however ...

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Where did you get this information? People are entitled to their own opinions but not their own facts. I have been told by many "in the know" people here that the decision was made on quality not location. If location was the only factor why have hats shipped from Germany and Mississippi....

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The myth of location as the reason for Nowak getting the job is one that will be talked about here for years to come but it is not true. Tony got the job because of the quality of his jackets. Movie props are not valued for its quality but for its pliability and availability. A strong and structuri...

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I'm starting to like the "look" of the Wested CS NP more than TN's "Tony the Tiger" distressed pattern.......and I don't think their leather is any less durable than a TN as some have pointed out. You can get a Nowak with no distressing at all. The second one I ordered I got wit...

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I had emailed Gemma recently and got no reply. In fact I emailed nearly all the vendors here recently but no reply. Maybe everyone is now so loaded with money because of the new film

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Fedora wrote:Hmmm. Wow. Wonder what the one I have from the film is worth?

Steve, are you offering it for sale

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To a fan $5000 is nothing for an iconic piece. Did they took any picture of Harrison Ford wearing it? I know what it is like owning something that has a celebrity/historical connection because sometimes it just sit there doing nothing. I have Danica Patrick's nose cone that flew off her car when she...

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Nice looking jacket Peter. This is almost like after the wardrobe people on CS had done their work to change the look of the jacket but of course this one is Wested. The drape on the arms look appealing. I am a photographer and are exploring a possibility of creating a pin up female Indiana Jones co...

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[ I don't know why you keep believing jackets with scalloped pockets appeared in CS, especially when there are only what? 2-3 photos that give that impression? ](*,) I've already demonstrated in the other Nowak jacket thread how the illusion of scalloped pocket appears based on the perspective and ...

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On my second time seeing the movie I was watching for the elusive scalloped pocket. In the scene where he and Mutt are walking through the streets in the market place there is that famous shot that is floated as evidence of the scalloped pocket. As you watch Indy walk you see a view in the same sho...

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Here you go, this is Bernie's assistant wearing the archive jacket: http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/5708/lcarchivejacketxp3.jpg This is the Smithsonian Jacket, thank you Cowboy. http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9312/photo01qy2.jpg KT, I'm fairly certain that jacket worn by Bernie's assitant ab...

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Indiana G, sorry if I seemed to take offense at this conversation. I've just tired recently of all the vendor-squabbling that apparently goes on where one vendor claims to have been wronged by another....or accuses another vendor of not being honest in their dealings..... ....then then it trickles ...

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Michaelson wrote:
Did Deborah Landis joined this board eventually?
No, she never did.

Regards! Michaelson

Thats a pity. I know she is so proud of her work. Last email I had from her she mentioned about her new book on history of costume making in Hollywood just before last Xmas.

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Thanks for the info. You see not kept in pace with what is going on till the last couple of weeks, was last here in 2005 as part of my research in film history and the last PM I had was from Steve before I left here. Did Deborah Landis joined this board eventually?

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Michaelson wrote:AB's are U.S. made by Steve, and AB Deluxes are made in Germany by Marc.

what g said.....

Regards! Michaelson

That made things a bit clearer, but who made the fedoras for Indy 4?

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Sorry for asking as this might be well known. Is AB Indy fedoras made by Steve in the US or Marc in Germany?

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[quote="CM Yeah... whatever. All I was saying was that the Raiders jacket always looked like lamb. Period. It never looked like the real deal. The Nowak jacket actually looks like something a real-life Indy would wear. I've got nothign to add. Good photos, by the way.[/quote] How about this the...

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And yes, I know, the Nowak isn't HH. As cowhide it still looks like the real deal. I think your reservations are more to do with your love of the first film than the real world. And why not? Indy is a fantasy, so he should wear butter soft lamb in a jacket cos he can get a new one very time it brea...

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That Raiders jacket still look the most convincing of all the Indy films. The lambskin while not the most durable or period authentic did lend itself to be easier to distress by the wardrobe people and it was closer to how an old battered horsehide would have looked like. Many WW2 A2 jackets are dy...

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That Raiders jacket still look the most convincing of all the Indy films. The lambskin while not the most durable or period authentic did lend itself to be easier to distress by the wardrobe people and it was closer to how an old battered horsehide would have looked like. Many WW2 A2 jackets are dye...

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Paul O'Grady Show on thursday had the host wearing Indy gear, did anyone see that? It was supplied by Wested and here is the news article. http://www.kentnews.co.uk/kent-news/Indiana-Jones-is-a-good-fit-for-jacket-maker-newsinkent13169.aspx?news=local O'Grady use to live near me in Birkenhead just b...

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Thanks again Peter,
You are not sure about the jackets on those pictures?

Since the shirts and pants were taken on set while filming then it is more than likely they have appeared in CS at least in some footages.

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I believe this might be the first Indy 4 photo that was released taken by Spielberg on the set. Is that a Wested shirt and pants he is wearing?

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Thankyou Peter, You have as much if not more claim to the maker of CS as those whose gears eventually made it to the cinema. So they were copied from your design so they can make more on location because they wont film elsewhere outise the US it gone to a local manfacturer to do the copying. I am ge...

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Cool. I do have one gripe with the video though...it implies that you made the jacket that they used in crystal skull and doctor who when that isn't the case. Still, should give you a new flood of business. I know I see were you are comming but we are not sure how much Wested had contributed toward...

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I wanted to get a horsehide now but Wested dont have any at the moment.

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Scandinavia, not exactly sure this was the case in Europe even though Indy is American his gear is mixed. There were indeed many ex servicemen from the airforce that continue to don the same flyers jacket when they adopted the motor cycle after WW2 and maybe the same thing happened after WW1 though ...

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Hemingway observent as always.... :P Still this doesnt explain why Indy wears a flyers jacket before he even learn how to fly on the films. Archeologist of the period probably dont wear leather jacket based on what historical references about Howard Carter or Heinrich Schliemann which Indy was suppo...

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Its easy to spot the meter with low fuel as with motor cars. Certainly in the films he does not know how to fly. Indy like many men of the 1930s must have served in the military still he chose an air force jacket which would have linked him to the airforce.

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Its not unusual to see people wearing aviator jacket but I would expect anyone in the 1930s to wear one would need to have been involved in the air force. Indy dont know how to fly a plane.

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It looks very different than all the A2 I had seen, the shoulder applet, no side fastening, elastic cuffs and waist, etc.

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Not sure if it has been dicussed before, but I have unable to find similar pre WW2 bomber jacket that matches the one like Indy, does it exist? If it does can anyone say which make it is andd what origin?

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There were people wearing cowboy hats in the video, will the next event tolerate more elaborate costume, maybe as Indy?

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From what I understand Indy's costume apart from minor alteration in TOD and LC it did not gone through any radical changes so in that alone Nadoolman's original design was still being used plus the sourcing of the costume generally remains the same and it was even been said some of Indy's outfit fr...

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[/quote] Yeah and maybe that would be a foot in the door for Fedora's hats to be used in IJ4. However, since Nadoolman didn't work on Temple or Last Crusade, what are the chances she might get to be involved with Indy4? Of course, I think it'd be awesome if she were involved. But hey, what do I know...

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Pyroxene wrote:She could be under contract to not disclose much. With the rumors of I4 being made, studios probably don't want people talking much about "possible" costumes designs, etc.

Just a thought.

That is my opinion too.

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I too feel Deborah Nadoolman would want to contribute here in the near future and would want to do so at the right moment and through the right channel. She is just as excited about the whole Indy thing as we are except we are more crazy about the gear.

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Fedora, as a hat maker maybe you are in a better position to ask her about Indy's fedora? I am sure with your craftmanship she may feel a lot more compell to give someone in the business a better answer.

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If someone hadnt posted already this took place in the UK a week or so ago, watch the video link below

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/adam.georg ... 202005.WMV

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Dakota Ellison wrote:I will also call off my communications with Harrison Ford. Thank you.

If Harrison dont mind opening a dialogue with you or anyone you should by all means talk to the man, as the saying goes "its good to talk". If he doesnt respond once or twice then let it rest.

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Actually Mrs Landis does not know I am from this forum nor did I make any mention, not sure if that is the reason she replied???? I can say she is very proud of her achievement with the costume for Indy and qouted it was "iconic" when I referred to the influenced it had on mens fashion sin...

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I still believe Nadoolman visited Savile Row and probably bought a HJ off the shelf from a retailer who stock them, bashed it up and trimmed it and let Harrison tried it on. In the film they need many similar hats and it was probably left to her assistance to get more HJ hats that only HJ store can ...

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I have a friend in the UK who is an antique dealer and goes to guns fair, I asked if he can get a Webley MkVI de-activated, how much is one of these going for today?

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Which is currently the most expensive and sought after of all the guns Indy have used in the 3 films in list order?

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VP wrote:Are you serious?

If you are, then

Yes I am serious, pls dont ask me for her email address as I am sure she would get flooded with questions.

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