Club Obi Wan

Raskolnikov wrote:If I am not mistaken, Indy G's Raiders (his second one) is made with the same cowhide as the Crystal Skull jacket.

neutronbomb wrote:Sorry for the kiss and tell, but............

This leather is something Tony created exclusively for Whiskeyman. As such the name of the leather is the '747'. It is very, very strong and very light. It does have a light finish, but Tony said it is also a slightly distressed leather and in his personal opinion the very best option if you don't want the shrunken lamb. As far as lightweight, drape, strength, drag under a truck, patina, wrinkles, etc, this is what he recommends. Of course, Tony doesn't recommend artificial distressing or washing or showering the jacket. He believes that life is the best way to break in the jacket and the finish that is on the jacket shouldn't inhibit this. The leather is a cousin of this which Tony also created:



But tweaked for color and to meet Whiskeyman's specs. I suspect Whiskeyman has spent a long time. Years in fact coming up with the type of hide he wants in a real life Indy Jacket and his new jacket is Tony's creation of his interpretation of what was in Whiskeyman's minds eye. The way the wrinkles and patina of the cowhide look reminds me a bit of the wrinkly look of the original shrunken lamb. Totally different process and totally different leather and look, but the idea is great as it is the tight little wrinkled sections that give off the textures ROTLA jacket vibe and moves away from the smooth grain leathers look. So if you like the tight little wrinkled sections, but want something light and strong, then this is a good choice.

This leather is now available and Tony has it nailed down. He wanted to wait until Whiskeyman got his jacket before posting, but now it's ok to let everyone know this leather is available and it's $750.00 for a jacket made in it. Whiskyman's jacket is a ROTLA jacket, but of course Tony can do any of the styles of jacket, CS, etc. in it.

Whiskeyman is owed a big thank you for helping come up with and get this leather developed. Thanks Whiskeyman!!

I've said before I'm not a go between and I don't represent Tony. I consider him a friend and agreed to do a quick post from him regarding this specific post.

Regarding Rask's jacket. The shipment of this Super Strong goat is set to arrive any day. This goat is special and from a special place. Nothing like it anywhere. It is $975 a jacket made out of this goat skin. I personally believe this is it for the toughest bad boy Indy jacket on the planet. Texture, everything. What makes it different than the cowhide. Well the 747 cowhide is super light and wrinkled. It's going to drape differently. The goat is just different. So it's really just up to your personal preference. Tony has created this goat and it has texture and everything, but the secret is the type of goat skins he uses. If I wasn't getting my own special shrunken lamb jacket, this is the one I'd go for. Not telling anyone what to do, just talking out loud.

Anyway, the name of the new goat is the 'Holy Goat'.

So now there are two types of new skins available for jackets.

1. The '747' cowhide - $750.00
2. The 'Holy Goat' - $975.00






And lastly, only because Tony asked me to specifically:

"We're just warming up my friends. Thank you kindly for your support. Best Regards, Tony Nowak"

crismans wrote:

Raskolnikov wrote:If I am not mistaken, Indy G's Raiders (his second one) is made with the same cowhide as the Crystal Skull jacket.

I don't think so. If it is, it's a much darker batch. But I seem to recall that it was a different hide.

Indiana G wrote:kryptonian, your jacket looks about as dark as my indy 1 in CS hide, and i was assured by tony that this was the darkest in his stock.

i think the dark jackets in the production are from something else......i wish we could find what that something else is.......

Dutch_jones wrote:holy goat? LOL! what the ...... is that ?

crismans wrote:

Raskolnikov wrote:If I am not mistaken, Indy G's Raiders (his second one) is made with the same cowhide as the Crystal Skull jacket.

I don't think so. If it is, it's a much darker batch. But I seem to recall that it was a different hide.

neutronbomb wrote:Sorry for the kiss and tell, but............

This leather is something Tony created exclusively for Whiskeyman. As such the name of the leather is the '747'. It is very, very strong and very light. It does have a light finish, but Tony said it is also a slightly distressed leather and in his personal opinion the very best option if you don't want the shrunken lamb. As far as lightweight, drape, strength, drag under a truck, patina, wrinkles, etc, this is what he recommends. Of course, Tony doesn't recommend artificial distressing or washing or showering the jacket. He believes that life is the best way to break in the jacket and the finish that is on the jacket shouldn't inhibit this. The leather is a cousin of this which Tony also created...

gwyddion wrote:Well, this is what G said in a post in the TN jacket owners thread:

Indiana G wrote:kryptonian, your jacket looks about as dark as my indy 1 in CS hide, and i was assured by tony that this was the darkest in his stock.

i think the dark jackets in the production are from something else......i wish we could find what that something else is.......

So his cowhide TN 1 is made of the CS leather.

Regards, Geert

crismans wrote:
So CS cow it is, but there are a variety of colors.

neutronbomb wrote:That's right Baldwyn! But I have to be . Movies do not like this stuff discussed or outed or non-authorized pictures of the wardrobe posted etc. before it has been released. So Tony asked that I not discuss it or name it or show pictures of the full jacket or anything like that until after the movie is released. All he allowed me to post was a super close up of the leather. I had a few comparison photos of it in my photobucket from a month or so ago. But, it is really irrelevant because Whiskeyman's stands on its own regarding color, etc.

However, it is a leather Tony has in his shop and jackets can be made out of it. I believe Orb got a Mutt jacket made out of it and posted it in the TN jacket owners thread.

neutronbomb wrote:Sorry PBSIndy This is all I know:

neutronbomb wrote:Name comes from the 'Holy Land'. It is the 'Holy Grail' of goat. One place, one breed of goat, one special tannery, etc. Took all of TN's connections, expertise, years of experience to track it down and get it done. It is not very simple really to get exactly what you need, want from a tannery especially when it is unique and requires tanning that is not the industry standard of the day. If you do find the tannery is actually creating skins you want and or need, then sometimes it is difficult to get them to give them to you also. There are politics, red tape, and cultural barriers in the leather industry too apparently. Sometimes Tony has to get on a plane and fly out to get it done. Often his reputation tips the scales. Great effort was put forth by Tony to get Whiskeyman what he wanted. Also, in getting the holy grail of goat jackets.

There are tons of pictures in the TN jacket owners thread that show off the different types of leathers. As of right now, there is no 'original shrunken lamb'.

I don't think this is cheap stuff that's gone partially bad and smells rotten. Most goat gets sourced from Asia and often there are issues with it. This new goat from Tony does not. It is sourced from the Holy land. I suspect it's the high price of sourcing this leather. But, I don't really know, I'm just a guesser here. I will tell you that 500 sq feet of my leather sourced from the tannery I'm getting practically knocked me out of my chair. Only one place in the world even has a chance of getting it right so .........

So the bottom line I think is quality costs. That's my theory anyway.

Hatch wrote:That grain looks good.........I think Indy G is making a pilgrimage to TN this week so hopefully he will have a report on return...

PSBIndy wrote:G, don't you already have a TN Raiders? You guys needs to slow down.....my wallet can't keep up with you!

Neutronbomb wrote:Rask has only had his jacket a month an a half so I don't know if it has distressed much since then. We'll need Rask's input on this. However, If G&B expedition goats are any indication they can look like new for years.

PLATON wrote:With the exception of the croco hide every other leather offered by TN looks amazing.

PLATON wrote:With the exception of the croco hide every other leather offered by TN looks amazing.

Raskolnikov wrote:OK. Here are the pictures I promised yesterday showing how my TN dark goat looks after one month and a half of wearing. I have taken some close-ups for Hatch, too. Those last ones are big pictures.


Regards,
Rask

Tyrloch wrote:Wasn't there a goatskin option that was $750? Or is that one no more?

~Jace

neutronbomb wrote:Name comes from the 'Holy Land'. It is the 'Holy Grail' of goat. One place, one breed of goat, one special tannery, etc. Took all of TN's connections, expertise, years of experience to track it down and get it done. It is not very simple really to get exactly what you need, want from a tannery especially when it is unique and requires tanning that is not the industry standard of the day. If you do find the tannery is actually creating skins you want and or need, then sometimes it is difficult to get them to give them to you also. There are politics, red tape, and cultural barriers in the leather industry too apparently. Sometimes Tony has to get on a plane and fly out to get it done. Often his reputation tips the scales. Great effort was put forth by Tony to get Whiskeyman what he wanted. Also, in getting the holy grail of goat jackets.

Raider S wrote:I think there might be some confusion over the name "Holy Goat". It's a pun of "Holy Grail" and not an indicator of where the leather itself originates. This leather is in fact from Italy.