New indy whip

[Kiscien]

Hi,

It's my new whip. Of course 12 plait, 10 ft. Thing that is new: transition zone wrapped with kangaroo rawhide. It gives very nice stiffnes I think.




I hope that you like it.

Regards,
Karol Bilecki

[maboot38]

Who made it?

[masa]

Himself maybe?

http://kiscienwhips.knives.pl/eindex.html

[Kiscien]

Hi,

yes I made it

Regards,
Karol

[maboot38]

Ahhh, I get it now. I thought you were showing us a new whip you bought. I should have paid more attention!

[IndianaBravo]

As soon as this bad boy gets here ( I presume this one is mine Karol ) and I put it through its paces, I will write a review and post pics! Now, to wait for the postman...

[maboot38]

I do notice a widening of the handle a bit. Is it the core that widens, or is the leather just thicker as it gets closer to the belly?

[IndianaBravo]

A slight tapering of the handle before the ring knot, IMHO ,is just part of the design. Many whip makers´Indy whips have this feature including Bernardo Del Carpio´s

http://www.delcarpiowhips.com/bullwhips_00.html

His whips are well known for being some of the most SA out there

Cheers!

[Kiscien]

I can just add that widening is made using the bolster part.

[maboot38]

A slight tapering of the handle before the ring knot, IMHO ,is just part of the design. Many whip makers´Indy whips have this feature including Bernardo Del Carpio´s

http://www.delcarpiowhips.com/bullwhips_00.html

His whips are well known for being some of the most SA out there

Cheers!

I don't see a taper before the ringknot, i see a widening. I was wondering if that was the steel or wood dowel inside that widens, or is it a thickening of the leather towards the knot that causes it, and does it provide any benefit?

[rjallen70]

I don't mean to speak out of turn, but it is probably the binding.

[Kiscien]

Hi,

It is made using bolster part... as I sad before . Bolster is skived and wrapped with twine. I do that in most of my whips.

Regards,
Karol

[maboot38]

Sorry, I wasn't sure what a bolster part was, so I didn't understand what you were saying.

[Kiscien]

http://kiscienwhips.knives.pl/p_bullinside.html here you have, what is sinsiade my bulls, what is a bolster and how I made that widening.

edit: Indianabravo: yes, that one is yours

[IndianaBravo]

Maboot38, you are right it is a widening not a tapering . You can really see it on Bernardos TOD model.

[maboot38]

I think I get it now. Thanks.

[gsolideogloria]

Karol - looks great.

IndianaBravo - If this is yours, I would love to hear your review of it after you get a chance to play with it for a while.

Happy cracking,

Ryan

[IndianaBravo]

For sure Ryan. I´m sitting now by the mailbox waiting with a baseball bat . Wait, scratch that, better with a cold glass of lemonade for the postman . Seriously, that transition Karol made looks great, very KOTCish. We´ll see how it handles...

[IndianaBravo]

Well, its here at last and it was well worth (the short) wait. Karol has done a great job, nice tight plaiting. The whip handles great and that reinforced transition really does
the trick.


Thanks again Karol!

[Kiscien]

Hi,

I hope that it will one of your best whips

Regards,
Karol

[Marhala]

So, I guess the rawhide is to make the transition "springier"... Which is the difference among, for example, a Jacka, a Strain, a Morgan and one of Karol's whip with the rawhide transition? Anyone?

[Kiscien]

If you ask me, I can't tell you . Because I don't know how Morgan, Jacka or Strain whips are. I simply try to make best whip I can.

Regards,
Karol

[kooniu]

I think it is great idea for stiff whip. Mick Murphy sell rawhide bull whip foundations - I think for that reason.

[IndianaBravo]

Hi!

This is my whip, and the reinforced transition doesn´t really make it "springier", it just gives greater support to the transition area about a long foot into the whip. I guess this is something that will reveal itself better with the passing of time, as to how well the transition holds its shape. I am also the proud owner of a Joe Strain 10 footer. It also has a tightly braided transition area, although I don´t know the intricacies of the transitions´ construction. Both whips have a similar curve beyond the ring knot. Hope this helps!

Regards
IndianaBravo

[tomek9210]

The most springest transition is made, I think, in whips by Ben Scott, because he uses spring and pipe (it was described in this topic viewtopic.php?f=3&t=40059 ) :
"The foundation of these whips is very solid and durable and yet uniquely different to most whips made of this style. The foundation is made out of an 8" steel pipe rather than the standard spike that most whipmakers use. I also use a special spring transition between handle and thong on these whips for durability at that junction, which is fitted into the end of the pipe under the first belly and extends several more inches into the thong. All three bellies are solidly anchored to the foundation. The spring transition is permanent and unbreakable. It stops the thong from breaking down at the transition and becoming weak over time. This is a unique and well proven technique I've developed to eliminate the weakness that most bullwhips have in this area."
Other methods, just stiffen the transition zone, but in some time it will break in. I'm curious how handles the Ben Scott's whip after few months of cracking.