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Novapelle, Pecards or not?
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:59 pm
by msrowe88
I can't decide if I want to put Pecards on my coat, what do you guys think?
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:28 pm
by Castor Dioscuri
Can't hurt, especially if you're going to be out in the rain with it... The only drawback I can think of though is that it'll make the surface less velvety, and darker (if you're using the dressing).
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:56 pm
by whipwarrior
Absolutely. Since I got my CS novapelle in April, I've given it about four solid coats of Pecard's, and it looks awesome. The leather appears darker, feels heavier, and the jacket has a nice rain repellent quality. Also, in certain light, it's nearly indistinguishable from Wested's original lambskin.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:14 pm
by Indiana Joyce
interesting...i was afraid to pecards mine when it finally gets here. but if the dark brown makes it looks a bit more raiderish...then i just might take the plunge and Jean-Luc it.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:17 pm
by whipwarrior
Oh, it looks totally Raiders with Pecards. So you get a jacket with the durability of cowhide, and the appearance of the classic lamb. So if that's your cup of tea, then it's a win-win situation.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:10 am
by PSBIndy
I put Pecards on all my jackets....Novapelle, TN, washed goat, Todd's, etc....It softens the leather and keeps it waterproof....great stuff.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:53 am
by SpeedRcrX
After being caught in the rain I put Pecard on my NP, couldn't be happier with the look and how the jacket feel now.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:09 am
by Kt Templar
I really like the look of the NP, especailly when given an occasional coat of Pecards. It also helps make it more water resistant.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:26 pm
by Piers
My PD cow has started feeling dryer with the approaching winter.. for all you pecard users, which one would be best for this to keep the look, but add the protection and help with the dryness? Lotion? Gel?
reading this
viewtopic.php?t=7211
makes it sound like the lotion is the way to go.. not just for a cowhide, but for the much anticipated lamb
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:50 pm
by Michaelson
I'm more of a fan of the jell for cowhide and goatskin, reserving the lotion for lambskin.
Either way, they all will darken up your cowhide, the lesser with the lotion, as it will evaporate a lot faster from the hide than the regular jell or standard Pecards, and negating the original intent of applying it to your dry jacket in the first place. ;-)
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:33 am
by Cammer
I treated my Novapelle Raiders with Pecards when I first got it. The jacket looked like it had been dyed black for the first couple of days! It has been a few weeks now and it is definitely a nice dark brown now, although still much darker than when I first received it.
Would I do it again? Probably. It didn't hurt anything and it took away that so-called velvety feel that I didn't really like. I work with my hands a lot and the jacket texture would catch on my skin. It was a bit unpleasant, but now it's much better.
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:39 pm
by Raider S
Use the Pecards creme - the white stuff. That's what the man at Pecards told me to use in my USW vintage cow. It will give the water resistance and protect the leather but still allow the distressing/character to show and not darken the jacket. Trust me on this one!
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:10 pm
by Cammer
Raider S wrote:Use the Pecards creme - the white stuff. That's what the man at Pecards told me to use in my USW vintage cow. It will give the water resistance and protect the leather but still allow the distressing/character to show and not darken the jacket. Trust me on this one!
I *think* that's what I used. It's a white creme that comes in a tub right?
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:33 am
by scot2525
Well I applied a very thin coat of the leather dressing yesterday morning to my novapelle and I am very happy witht the result. It did darken some, not as much as I thought it would, and the leather loosened up nicely. The jacket doesn't feel as stiff anymore. It did get rid of the velvety or suede type feel the jacket has but I actually prefer it this way. I may add another thin coat tonight. I will attempt to add some pics later in the day.
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:26 pm
by Indiana Joyce
Im thinking about breaking my jacket in first, then adding the pecards later. of course, not wearing the jacket for 24 hours, thats a stretch for me.
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:49 pm
by gwyddion
Well, you had to wait a long time to get it and considdering the circomstances I'd say wear it 25/7 if possible.
Regards, Geert
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:50 pm
by whipwarrior
Here is a Wested novapelle after 4 coats of standard Pecards dressing:
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:57 pm
by Cammer
whipwarrior wrote:Here is a Wested novapelle after 4 coats of standard Pecards dressing:
Mine was MUCH darker than that, like I said, almost black, after just one coat of the standard dressing. But of course I really slathered it on in the hot sun. The leather soaked up every trace of it.
My jacket still hasn't lightened up to where yours is yet.
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:34 pm
by Indiana Joyce
Very nice. The other problem I have with pecards seems to be applying it evenly. I dont want to mess this up, so im hesitant to apply it, even tho I want my jacket to look as beautiful(yet beat up, god we are an odd bunch) as it can. Its only been here 3 and a half days and I just never want to take it off. I didnt know I could feel this way about a jacket.
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:57 pm
by Cammer
Indiana Joyce wrote:Its only been here 3 and a half days and I just never want to take it off. I didnt know I could feel this way about a jacket.
I've had my jacket for about 3 and a half weeks and I feel the same way. This morning the temperature was in the 60s and my first thought was "COOL! I can wear my jacket!"
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:10 pm
by Indiana Joyce
Im actually appling pecards as I speak. I did one side, then took a picture to see if I could get the camera to pick up the difference. I can see it with my eyes but dont know about the camera.
It definitely darkens the leather, pretty much as soon as the dressing hits it.
The right side is coated, the left was natural.
Thats after the whole jacket was done. I then left it hanging up to dry so I could buff it out the next morning...nothing to buff out. it soaked right into the jacket. Now to me it looks the same as when I bought it, but it feels softer and lost that velvety feel, that after a while felt like sandpaper lol.
I might put a second coat on this weekend.
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:20 pm
by msrowe88
was anyone else refering to pecards creme?
I was talking about the dressing
arg more choices
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:30 am
by Kt Templar
My one was done with the standard dressing, it does darken the leather but that fades with time, not completely. I have a friend with a NP that he never treats and it is noticeably lighter in colour.
This is mine it hasn't been treated for a couple of months now.
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:28 am
by Michaelson
The Standard has more bees wax than the 'creme' or jell does. That's why you see a bit more 'sheen' on KT's jacket. It polishes up a bit more than the Creme does.
Personally I use the creme, but that's just a personal choice.
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:11 am
by Cammer
Michaelson wrote:The Standard has more bees wax than the 'creme' or jell does. That's why you see a bit more 'sheen' on KT's jacket. It polishes up a bit more than the Creme does.
Personally I use the creme, but that's just a personal choice.
Regards! Michaelson
Yes, I did notice that the standard dressing has a faint bees wax scent. Once it's applied the scent goes away.
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:23 pm
by scot2525
Here are a few pictures of mine. The jacket has had two coats of the standard pecard's leather dressing with the most recent being applied very early yesterday. "Tonight" turned into two weeks on me per my previous post.
And yes that little "speck" on the right chest near the shoulder is "natural distressing" and I have NO idea what happened and it drives me INSANE.
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:24 pm
by Michaelson
Seat belt shoulder strap would be my guess. We see that one a lot. ;-)
Regards! Michaelson
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:36 pm
by scot2525
That is a possibility Michaelson, my wife things a small ember from a cigarette may have hit the jacket as well.
Something I want to add is this hide really soaks up the pecards. I have treated it twice now and there has been no excess of the pecards to wipe off. I always have excess to wipe off with my whip and boots.