Novapelle, Pecards or not?

msrowe88 · Post by **msrowe88** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:59 pm

I can't decide if I want to put Pecards on my coat, what do you guys think?

Castor Dioscuri · Post by **Castor Dioscuri** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:28 pm

Can't hurt, especially if you're going to be out in the rain with it... The only drawback I can think of though is that it'll make the surface less velvety, and darker (if you're using the dressing).

whipwarrior · Post by **whipwarrior** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:56 pm

Absolutely. Since I got my CS novapelle in April, I've given it about four solid coats of Pecard's, and it looks awesome. The leather appears darker, feels heavier, and the jacket has a nice rain repellent quality. Also, in certain light, it's nearly indistinguishable from Wested's original lambskin.

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:14 pm

interesting...i was afraid to pecards mine when it finally gets here. but if the dark brown makes it looks a bit more raiderish...then i just might take the plunge and Jean-Luc it.

whipwarrior · Post by **whipwarrior** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:17 pm

Oh, it looks totally Raiders with Pecards. So you get a jacket with the durability of cowhide, and the appearance of the classic lamb. So if that's your cup of tea, then it's a win-win situation.

PSBIndy · Post by **PSBIndy** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:10 am

I put Pecards on all my jackets....Novapelle, TN, washed goat, Todd's, etc....It softens the leather and keeps it waterproof....great stuff.

SpeedRcrX · Post by **SpeedRcrX** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:53 am

After being caught in the rain I put Pecard on my NP, couldn't be happier with the look and how the jacket feel now.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:09 am

I really like the look of the NP, especailly when given an occasional coat of Pecards. It also helps make it more water resistant.

Piers · Post by **Piers** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:26 pm

My PD cow has started feeling dryer with the approaching winter.. for all you pecard users, which one would be best for this to keep the look, but add the protection and help with the dryness? Lotion? Gel?

reading this
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makes it sound like the lotion is the way to go.. not just for a cowhide, but for the much anticipated lamb

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:50 pm

I'm more of a fan of the jell for cowhide and goatskin, reserving the lotion for lambskin.

Either way, they all will darken up your cowhide, the lesser with the lotion, as it will evaporate a lot faster from the hide than the regular jell or standard Pecards, and negating the original intent of applying it to your dry jacket in the first place. ;-)

Regards! Michaelson

Cammer · Post by **Cammer** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:33 am

I treated my Novapelle Raiders with Pecards when I first got it. The jacket looked like it had been dyed black for the first couple of days! It has been a few weeks now and it is definitely a nice dark brown now, although still much darker than when I first received it.

Would I do it again? Probably. It didn't hurt anything and it took away that so-called velvety feel that I didn't really like. I work with my hands a lot and the jacket texture would catch on my skin. It was a bit unpleasant, but now it's much better.

Raider S · Post by **Raider S** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:39 pm

Use the Pecards creme - the white stuff. That's what the man at Pecards told me to use in my USW vintage cow. It will give the water resistance and protect the leather but still allow the distressing/character to show and not darken the jacket. Trust me on this one!

Cammer · Post by **Cammer** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:10 pm

Raider S wrote:Use the Pecards creme - the white stuff. That's what the man at Pecards told me to use in my USW vintage cow. It will give the water resistance and protect the leather but still allow the distressing/character to show and not darken the jacket. Trust me on this one!

I *think* that's what I used. It's a white creme that comes in a tub right?

scot2525 · Post by **scot2525** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:33 am

Well I applied a very thin coat of the leather dressing yesterday morning to my novapelle and I am very happy witht the result. It did darken some, not as much as I thought it would, and the leather loosened up nicely. The jacket doesn't feel as stiff anymore. It did get rid of the velvety or suede type feel the jacket has but I actually prefer it this way. I may add another thin coat tonight. I will attempt to add some pics later in the day.

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:26 pm

Im thinking about breaking my jacket in first, then adding the pecards later. of course, not wearing the jacket for 24 hours, thats a stretch for me.

gwyddion · Post by **gwyddion** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:49 pm

Well, you had to wait a long time to get it and considdering the circomstances I'd say wear it 25/7 if possible.

Regards, Geert

whipwarrior · Post by **whipwarrior** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:50 pm

Here is a Wested novapelle after 4 coats of standard Pecards dressing:

Cammer · Post by **Cammer** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:57 pm

whipwarrior wrote:Here is a Wested novapelle after 4 coats of standard Pecards dressing:

Mine was MUCH darker than that, like I said, almost black, after just one coat of the standard dressing. But of course I really slathered it on in the hot sun. The leather soaked up every trace of it.

My jacket still hasn't lightened up to where yours is yet.

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:34 pm

Very nice. The other problem I have with pecards seems to be applying it evenly. I dont want to mess this up, so im hesitant to apply it, even tho I want my jacket to look as beautiful(yet beat up, god we are an odd bunch) as it can. Its only been here 3 and a half days and I just never want to take it off. I didnt know I could feel this way about a jacket.

Cammer · Post by **Cammer** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:57 pm

Indiana Joyce wrote:Its only been here 3 and a half days and I just never want to take it off. I didnt know I could feel this way about a jacket.

I've had my jacket for about 3 and a half weeks and I feel the same way. This morning the temperature was in the 60s and my first thought was "COOL! I can wear my jacket!"

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:10 pm

Im actually appling pecards as I speak. I did one side, then took a picture to see if I could get the camera to pick up the difference. I can see it with my eyes but dont know about the camera.

It definitely darkens the leather, pretty much as soon as the dressing hits it.

The right side is coated, the left was natural.

Thats after the whole jacket was done. I then left it hanging up to dry so I could buff it out the next morning...nothing to buff out. it soaked right into the jacket. Now to me it looks the same as when I bought it, but it feels softer and lost that velvety feel, that after a while felt like sandpaper lol.
I might put a second coat on this weekend.

msrowe88 · Post by **msrowe88** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:20 pm

was anyone else refering to pecards creme?

I was talking about the dressing

arg more choices

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:30 am

My one was done with the standard dressing, it does darken the leather but that fades with time, not completely. I have a friend with a NP that he never treats and it is noticeably lighter in colour.

This is mine it hasn't been treated for a couple of months now.

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:28 am

The Standard has more bees wax than the 'creme' or jell does. That's why you see a bit more 'sheen' on KT's jacket. It polishes up a bit more than the Creme does.

Personally I use the creme, but that's just a personal choice.

Regards! Michaelson

Cammer · Post by **Cammer** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:11 am

Michaelson wrote:The Standard has more bees wax than the 'creme' or jell does. That's why you see a bit more 'sheen' on KT's jacket. It polishes up a bit more than the Creme does.

Personally I use the creme, but that's just a personal choice.

Regards! Michaelson

Yes, I did notice that the standard dressing has a faint bees wax scent. Once it's applied the scent goes away.

scot2525 · Post by **scot2525** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:23 pm

Here are a few pictures of mine. The jacket has had two coats of the standard pecard's leather dressing with the most recent being applied very early yesterday. "Tonight" turned into two weeks on me per my previous post.

And yes that little "speck" on the right chest near the shoulder is "natural distressing" and I have NO idea what happened and it drives me INSANE.

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:24 pm

Seat belt shoulder strap would be my guess. We see that one a lot. ;-)

Regards! Michaelson

scot2525 · Post by **scot2525** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:36 pm

That is a possibility Michaelson, my wife things a small ember from a cigarette may have hit the jacket as well.

Something I want to add is this hide really soaks up the pecards. I have treated it twice now and there has been no excess of the pecards to wipe off. I always have excess to wipe off with my whip and boots.