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Two buttons on Indy's cuff?

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:41 pm
by Mark Brody
I was browsing around the main pages looking at the bag, when I found this picture from Last Crusade that gives a pretty clear shot of Indy's cuff. His sleeves are rolled down and buttoned, and you can see down his jacket sleeve.

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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:14 pm
by sithspawn
Never noticed that before. I thought he only had one button. Looks like Wested got that detail right on the shirt. Wonder if that detail carried over to CS? Wonder also if the ephaulets on the real shirt are pointed or like the Wested and Todd's Costumes shirt. I was watching RAIDERS the other day and saw that the ephaulets didn't point. Todd got the details right. And going by memory I was sure it was wrong. :oops:

Scott

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:37 pm
by TheMechanic
The LC and CS shirts had much shorter, and pointed epauletts compared to the raiders shirt.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:42 am
by Mark Brody
Interestingly enough, the Raiders shirt appears to only have one button on the cuff. Chalk another one up for the differences from movie to movie.

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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:12 pm
by sithspawn
Looks like i went by memory again and got it wrong. :oops: I looked at it and The Wested has 2 buttons all right.They are side by side NOT on top of one another like in LC.

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:52 pm
by Kt Templar
I don't think there are 2 buttons. The one closer to his hand looks like it's a piece of mud. We'd need to see another pic from a more static scene to start changing all our shirts! :) JMO.

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:12 am
by Alkali Jones
KT,

A couple of observations, 1) where would they get mud in the desert? And 2) if the front "button" is a gob of "mud", that's awfully strange spacing for buttons on a cuff. I agree though, that more pictures would be good before we all start cutting/ moving/ adding buttons.

Dan s

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:05 am
by Mark Brody
I just watched it frame by frame in HD. The "button" on the end of the cuff is actually just a shadow. It's quite an illusion. The shadow gets darker at the bottom, making it look like the shadow to a button, which is, in fact, just a lighter shadow. All the same, it is an illusion.

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:28 am
by PLATON
I don't think there are 2 buttons. The one closer to his hand looks like it's a piece of mud. We'd need to see another pic from a more static scene to start changing all our shirts! JMO.
I just watched it frame by frame in HD. The "button" on the end of the cuff is actually just a shadow. It's quite an illusion. The shadow gets darker at the bottom, making it look like the shadow to a button, which is, in fact, just a lighter shadow. All the same, it is an illusion.
No, it can't be. Not according to common sense (and common shirtmaking)
It's got to be a second button. Because the one not closer to his hand, if it's the only one, then it's positioned completely wrong (too low) on the cuff, which cannot be.

Just my opinion.

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:07 pm
by Mark Brody
In hopes of avoiding a neverending debate, like the hat Indy wore on the plane in Raiders (which was obviously brown, by the way :Plymouth: ) here are some pics I took off my TV. Not the best quality, but good enough that you can see there is no button. The first pic is the same frame as the photo posted above that makes it look like there is a button (just as a reference). The rest clearly show that there is no button. If you watch the scene as a video (rather than frame by frame) you'll see that the real button is not as awkwardly placed as you might think.

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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:04 pm
by PLATON
This convinces me and I stand corrected.

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:07 pm
by Kt Templar
Kudos to Mark for raising a question and moving to disprove it again swiftly when uncovering new evidence.

T'was a nice theory though! :)

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:07 pm
by Alkali Jones
Impressive... most impressive.

Dan S