Two buttons on Indy's cuff?

Mark Brody · Post by **Mark Brody** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:41 pm

I was browsing around the main pages looking at the bag, when I found this picture from Last Crusade that gives a pretty clear shot of Indy's cuff. His sleeves are rolled down and buttoned, and you can see down his jacket sleeve.

sithspawn · Post by **sithspawn** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:14 pm

Never noticed that before. I thought he only had one button. Looks like Wested got that detail right on the shirt. Wonder if that detail carried over to CS? Wonder also if the ephaulets on the real shirt are pointed or like the Wested and Todd's Costumes shirt. I was watching RAIDERS the other day and saw that the ephaulets didn't point. Todd got the details right. And going by memory I was sure it was wrong.

Scott

TheMechanic · Post by **TheMechanic** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:37 pm

The LC and CS shirts had much shorter, and pointed epauletts compared to the raiders shirt.

Mark Brody · Post by **Mark Brody** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:42 am

Interestingly enough, the Raiders shirt appears to only have one button on the cuff. Chalk another one up for the differences from movie to movie.

sithspawn · Post by **sithspawn** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:12 pm

Looks like i went by memory again and got it wrong.

I looked at it and The Wested has 2 buttons all right.They are side by side NOT on top of one another like in LC.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:52 pm

I don't think there are 2 buttons. The one closer to his hand looks like it's a piece of mud. We'd need to see another pic from a more static scene to start changing all our shirts!

JMO.

Alkali Jones · Post by **Alkali Jones** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:12 am

KT,

A couple of observations, 1) where would they get mud in the desert? And 2) if the front "button" is a gob of "mud", that's awfully strange spacing for buttons on a cuff. I agree though, that more pictures would be good before we all start cutting/ moving/ adding buttons.

Dan s

Mark Brody · Post by **Mark Brody** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:05 am

I just watched it frame by frame in HD. The "button" on the end of the cuff is actually just a shadow. It's quite an illusion. The shadow gets darker at the bottom, making it look like the shadow to a button, which is, in fact, just a lighter shadow. All the same, it is an illusion.

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:28 am

I don't think there are 2 buttons. The one closer to his hand looks like it's a piece of mud. We'd need to see another pic from a more static scene to start changing all our shirts! JMO.

I just watched it frame by frame in HD. The "button" on the end of the cuff is actually just a shadow. It's quite an illusion. The shadow gets darker at the bottom, making it look like the shadow to a button, which is, in fact, just a lighter shadow. All the same, it is an illusion.

No, it can't be. Not according to common sense (and common shirtmaking)
It's got to be a second button. Because the one not closer to his hand, if it's the only one, then it's positioned completely wrong (too low) on the cuff, which cannot be.

Just my opinion.

Mark Brody · Post by **Mark Brody** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:07 pm

In hopes of avoiding a neverending debate, like the hat Indy wore on the plane in Raiders (which was obviously brown, by the way

) here are some pics I took off my TV. Not the best quality, but good enough that you can see there is no button. The first pic is the same frame as the photo posted above that makes it look like there is a button (just as a reference). The rest clearly show that there is no button. If you watch the scene as a video (rather than frame by frame) you'll see that the real button is not as awkwardly placed as you might think.

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:04 pm

This convinces me and I stand corrected.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:07 pm

Kudos to Mark for raising a question and moving to disprove it again swiftly when uncovering new evidence.

T'was a nice theory though!

Alkali Jones · Post by **Alkali Jones** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:07 pm

Impressive... most impressive.

Dan S