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How did this happen?
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:30 am
by Strider
After seeing ScreenUsed's screen grab of the ribbon on Indy's hat being on the wrong side, I took some grabs of my own.
Here's the pic where it's off.
And here, on the bridge, it's right.
Any ideas how this may've happened? I've noticed the ribbon is off in some of the early scenes in the village, too.
Regards,
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:46 am
by whipwarrior
Editors often flip the film (creating a reverse-image) to provide a better-looking, or more balanced picture, in accordance with the director's wishes. This is one of many such examples in the Indy trilogy. Aside from the hat ribbon, other giveaways include shots when Indy's shoulder strap is going from left-to-right instead of vice-versa, and having the whip and holster on the wrong side of his belt.
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:49 am
by Strider
Interesting!
I will have to watch the films again, looking for things like this. Thanks for the heads-up!
Regards,
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:51 am
by Mulceber
For any SW fans out there, there's a rather famous pic from RotJ that was reversed like that. If you look at the shots of Boba Fett in Jabba's palace, the antenna on his helmet is almost always on the wrong side. :junior: -IJ
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:51 am
by Shawnkara
Yeah, that happens quite often in a lot of movies. There's a flipped shot in 'Pirates of the Caribbean' where all of Jack's "hair decorations" are on the wrong side. They filmed it then realized that during the battle between the Dauntless and the Black Pearl they had Jack moving to exit the wrong side of the Pearl, the opposite side of where the Dauntless was. Flipping the film is a heck of a lot more practical than reshooting
The scene where Indy rides the horse out of the tent in Raiders is like that, too. His bag is on the wrong side.
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:30 am
by binkmeisterRick
It's especially nice when you get up on the wrong side of the bed in the morning. Instead of starting the day over, just flip the print!
bink
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:39 am
by prairiejones
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:57 pm
by IndyFrench
Just watch the curve of Ford's nose. That's the surefire way to tell if a shot is flipped in Indy.
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 4:42 am
by Andiana
Shawnkara wrote:Yeah, that happens quite often in a lot of movies. There's a flipped shot in 'Pirates of the Caribbean' where all of Jack's "hair decorations" are on the wrong side. They filmed it then realized that during the battle between the Dauntless and the Black Pearl they had Jack moving to exit the wrong side of the Pearl, the opposite side of where the Dauntless was. Flipping the film is a heck of a lot more practical than reshooting .
GREAT example! I remember that from the DVD Commentary.
In the EPIC Lord of the Rings Trilogy, it happens quite alot too (like Aragorn's scabbard appearing on the wrong hip in different shots). Sometimes, as said above, just simply flipping a shot can be a lot easier than going back and re-shooting (which takes a lot more work).
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:14 pm
by Canadiana Jones
IndianaJones wrote:For any SW fans out there, there's a rather famous pic from RotJ that was reversed like that. If you look at the shots of Boba Fett in Jabba's palace, the antenna on his helmet is almost always on the wrong side. :junior: -IJ
Also in ROTJ, Lando's outfit is flipped every time there is a close up shot while he talks to Han in the hanger bay before the battle of Endor.
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:52 pm
by Erri
Seems that also Boba Fett in Jabba's palace was reversed (i think it was the thermal detonator scene ... yo-tho yo-tho ...remember?
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:29 am
by Renderking Fisk
They can fix that in Post Production with Digital effects. Can't they?
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:30 am
by Erri
Renderking Fisk wrote:They can fix that in Post Production with Digital effects. Can't they?
Yes they could i suppose but i think these optical mistakes are not so relevant.