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The Hem of the Raiders Pants...

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 2:20 pm
by Falstaff
In a few weeks I should be getting a pair of Wested pants with an unfinished inseam. Obviously I'll have to hem the pants. Some time ago I remember reading a post in which someone mentions that the original Raiders pants Ford wore had a rather wide hem which made the pants drape more dramatically than normal pants. Given that the pants worn in Raiders seem to have a more baggy look then the other films, I think this observation might be right.

Can anyone else comment?

I did a search for the post, but found nothing.

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 2:38 pm
by Gater
Proper Indy pants need about a 4" hem so the speed-lacers of the Aldens don't get caught in the threads of the hem inside the pants.

In some pics, you can see the "hem-line" of the pant cuffs.

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 2:41 pm
by Luisiana Jones
Sorry for interrupting the thread but what s a hem?

Ps. Sorry for all these posts in which I ask for the meaning of some words... :oops:

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 3:07 pm
by Scandinavia Jones
Luisiana Jones wrote:Sorry for interrupting the thread but what s a hem?
Ask away, Luisiana!:) The hem is where the pant legs are folded inwards and adjusted to fit the wearer's legs... the seam can be seen faintly on the outside of the pants, like on my Westeds (the lighter pair are hemmed way too low, btw):

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I believe the term in Spanish would be los dobladillos de los pantalones(?)

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 3:14 pm
by Luisiana Jones
lol thanks for the translation Scandinavia its perfect :wink:

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 3:19 pm
by Snakewhip_Sable
Can we get a close-up on that hem seam, Scandinavia?! I haven't yet had my vintage trousers hemmed and that will help a lot.

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 3:32 pm
by Scandinavia Jones
Ask, SeƱor Sable, and you shall receive. :wink:

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My 1st gen Westeds - badly hemmed by stupid tailor who just didn't listen...

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The 2nd gen pants - hemline about where I want it.

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Trouser/pant leg turned inside out. Inside out, that is.

You are very welcome. 8)

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 3:47 pm
by Snakewhip_Sable
Thank you very much, good sir!

You might want to REALLY EMPHASIZE that the last pic is the inside seam so no one makes a grievous error striving for authenticity while skimming the posts. ;)

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 3:52 pm
by Scandinavia Jones
Thread skimmers beware... as Mr. Sable so wisely pointed out, the last pic is indeed of THE INSIDE SEAM. Don't go zigzagging on the outside now, folks! That just won't be... screen-accurate. :mrgreen:

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 4:46 pm
by Bufflehead Jones
I wish that for someone of my stature, the Wested pants came with a longer unfinished length. I knew how the pants should be hemmed, but I had to walk a line between having a hem that was as big as I wanted and having "high water" pants.

Especially considering the cost of the pants, I fretted over this a great deal. I guess that I am happy with it, considering what I had to work with. I just needed some more length and it would have made the job a whole lot easier.

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:41 pm
by Tristan
The Indy pants do have a fairly wide hem. You can see it fairly well at a point during the beginning of "Raiders of the Lost Ark," when Indy is talking to Belloq in the jungle.

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 8:12 pm
by Indiana Neri
From another thread:
Indiana Neri wrote:Off topic: Is it me, or is there really a hem crease on the cuff of HF's pants?

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Indy N. :wink:

FYI: That's LC gear. Just thought I'd point that out :D .

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 8:18 pm
by Zach R.
Does Wested hem them as high as they should be or do they hem them at the "common" lower height if you don't order them unfinished?

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 2:58 pm
by Canyon
Falstaff, I believe that this is the thread that you're looking for. :wink:

viewtopic.php?t=9566

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 11:19 pm
by Falstaff
Canyon wrote:Falstaff, I believe that this is the thread that you're looking for. :wink:

viewtopic.php?t=9566
Thanks, Canyon, that thread has lots of useful info. And thanks to everyone else for their input too! I'll post a few good photos of my entire constume just a soon as the pants arrive in a few weeks.

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 7:25 am
by Canyon
Falstaff wrote:
Canyon wrote:Falstaff, I believe that this is the thread that you're looking for. :wink:

viewtopic.php?t=9566
Thanks, Canyon, that thread has lots of useful info. And thanks to everyone else for their input too! I'll post a few good photos of my entire constume just a soon as the pants arrive in a few weeks.
You're welcome. :D

Looking forward to seeing the pictures. :P