Share your Indy Guns!

micsteam · Post by **micsteam** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:58 pm

J_Weaver, I have one to it went to a LT. J. Spicer 5th Cheshires at the front in 1915. Yeah, I suggest you leave it alone and get a beat up S&W 1917 and have that cut down or better yet a Brazilian contract from the 20's-30's. MHO. Enjoy !!

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:26 pm

micsteam wrote:J_Weaver, I have one to it went to a LT. J. Spicer 5th Cheshires at the front in 1915. Yeah, I suggest you leave it alone and get a beat up S&W 1917 and have that cut down or better yet a Brazilian contract from the 20's-30's. MHO. Enjoy !!

Or a brand new one with absolutely zero historical significance. But I would also chop a Brazilian contract.

Post by **Cajunkraut** » Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:49 pm

ChrisMD wrote:
micsteam wrote:J_Weaver, I have one to it went to a LT. J. Spicer 5th Cheshires at the front in 1915. Yeah, I suggest you leave it alone and get a beat up S&W 1917 and have that cut down or better yet a Brazilian contract from the 20's-30's. MHO. Enjoy !!
Or a brand new one with absolutely zero historical significance. But I would also chop a Brazilian contract.

Agreed. Or one that's in such poor shape that any historical or investment value is significantly lost.

Mine was in salty shape along with a previously modified barrel. All I added were SA grips and an included butt swivel.

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:22 pm

The 1911A1 as featured in CS with my Garrison Raiders and custom holster both freshly returned from camping.

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Post by **Cajunkraut** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:27 pm

Nice pic, Chris!

I know we've discussed this before, but I would've loved to see Indy with a 1911 in his repertoire.

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:09 pm

Cajunkraut wrote:Nice pic, Chris!

I know we've discussed this before, but I would've loved to see Indy with a 1911 in his repertoire.

Couldnt agree more!

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cm289 · Post by **cm289** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:19 am

I debated posting this one or not, since it's an AK but not like any in KOTCS. This one I call 'Vasily'; it's a Serbian M92 PAP pistol, made by Zastava and imported by Century Arms. With the SB47 arm brace it measures a whopping 29.5 inches and makes an excellent truck gun. The M92 and the 5.56 AR15-magazine-accepting M85 are all around great guns that can be had for less than $500.

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Post by **Cajunkraut** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:49 am

Now THAT is sexy, 289!

All of the CDI (Chicks Dig It) factor without any of the red tape.

Can't tell if it's authentic or a repro, but I love the look of that bakelite mag too.

cm289 · Post by **cm289** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:50 pm

I was lucky enough to score a couple of surplus bakelites last year. A little pricey but I love the look.

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ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:07 pm

cm289 I think this AK is fine to post. It is a variant of what is in the movie. Heck my Hi Power isn't an Inglis or Browning, it is an Israeli Kareen. Plus the movie seemed to not be super accurate anyway. If memory serves me they were using Type 56 AKs...Chinese. AND you can see a few underfolders. I THINK those came out in the 60s! I wish they would have used AKs from Arsenal and just replaced the furniture with wood. But I guess we are just gun snobs!!!

Forgot to add that I absolutely love bakelite! I want to get a few. I am a bit of an AK purist as far as furniture. (on full size, pistols I love the Sig brace). On all my AKs I've ever purchased the first thing I do is to replace any non wood furniture with wood. Ironwood Designs is my favorite place to get it!

I like the brace, I have one myself for a project I'm working on. However at the pace I build rifles....I might need the Holy Grail to sustain me until completion.

PLEASE don't forget a range report!

Chris

cm289 · Post by **cm289** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:58 pm

Here's a mini- review:

I bought a M85NP from J&G a few months ago and was blown away by the fit and finish of the gun. The only issue was an ever so slightly canted front sight that I was able to tap into proper alignment. So when I found an equally good deal on the M92 from Prepper Guns I jumped at it.

The M92 came with 2 surplus steel mags, one of which had a bolt holding follower. Both rattle a little in the gun. The finish on the M92 isn't as nice as the 85; the bolt has some machining marks on the top, and there's a few other minor scratches on it. The front sight and gas tube are perfectly aligned. Also, the trigger was really gritty at first, but 5-6 dry fires smoothed it right out.

The M85 came with a booster muzzle brake, but the M92 had a muzzle nut tack welded on; a few swipes with a file cured that and now it's wearing a CNC Warrior flash suppressor/brake combo (I coulda just hand-tightened it on but I went ahead and bought a detent kit and did it right). I also stained the fore grip to a reddish-brown; originally it was more blonde.

I haven't shot paper, but was able to hit 12"x12" targets at about 100 yards fairly easily before adding the brace although fast follow-ups weren't happening. Prior to adding the muzzle brake, there was a rather large flame thrower effect. I haven't noticed much flame since the brake was added but I suspect that'd be different at night. The muzzle brake has quite a concussive effect to the side. The brace makes it totally controllable; of course I mean as a pistol, cuz I would never dream of shouldering it and risk turning 'a wrench into a hammer'

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The bakelites and tapco mags don't shake at all; the steel mags wobble a little. Steel and bakelite run 100% but I did have a few problems of my own design with the tapcos- I drilled a witness hole in the back but didn't smooth it enough for the follower (which is super tight) to ride over the hole. A light sanding should solve that.

Both of these guns exceed my expectations, especially considering the price. By all means, if they're legal in your state, get one. Better yet, get both!

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ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:10 pm

cm289 wrote:Here's a mini- review:

I bought a M85NP from J&G a few months ago and was blown away by the fit and finish of the gun. The only issue was an ever so slightly canted front sight that I was able to tap into proper alignment. So when I found an equally good deal on the M92 from Prepper Guns I jumped at it.

The M92 came with 2 surplus steel mags, one of which had a bolt holding follower. Both rattle a little in the gun. The finish on the M92 isn't as nice as the 85; the bolt has some machining marks on the top, and there's a few other minor scratches on it. The front sight and gas tube are perfectly aligned. Also, the trigger was really gritty at first, but 5-6 dry fires smoothed it right out.

The M85 came with a booster muzzle brake, but the M92 had a muzzle nut tack welded on; a few swipes with a file cured that and now it's wearing a CNC Warrior flash suppressor/brake combo (I coulda just hand-tightened it on but I went ahead and bought a detent kit and did it right). I also stained the fore grip to a reddish-brown; originally it was more blonde.

I haven't shot paper, but was able to hit 12"x12" targets at about 100 yards fairly easily before adding the brace although fast follow-ups weren't happening. Prior to adding the muzzle brake, there was a rather large flame thrower effect. I haven't noticed much flame since the brake was added but I suspect that'd be different at night. The muzzle brake has quite a concussive effect to the side. The brace makes it totally controllable; of course I mean as a pistol, cuz I would never dream of shouldering it and risk turning 'a wrench into a hammer' .

The bakelites and tapco mags don't shake at all; the steel mags wobble a little. Steel and bakelite run 100% but I did have a few problems of my own design with the tapcos- I drilled a witness hole in the back but didn't smooth it enough for the follower (which is super tight) to ride over the hole. A light sanding should solve that.

Both of these guns exceed my expectations, especially considering the price. By all means, if they're legal in your state, get one. Better yet, get both!

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Ive been tempted. My shop has a HUGE selection of AKs lately. Even Toks. And since I have been actually starting to enjoy CS, I need both. Before I moved I sold all my AKs but still have mags and a drum. But I NEED a 1917 first. Only Raiders gun I own is my Hi Power and a P38

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Post by **Cajunkraut** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:55 pm

Since we're paying homage to General Kalashnikov...

My AK pride and joy is the Egyptian Maadi, still in service with the Egyptian military. Not my photo:

Shoddy painted finish, distinctive blonde laminated wood, shiny chocolate brown plastic pistol grip, unique emerald green sling.

Besides, what AK fan doesn't appreciate the AKM used exclusively in Red Dawn? That's the original 1984 Red Dawn for you Millennials.

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:24 pm

I had a Maadi. Make sure you inspect the lugs in your reciever! Took mine to my smith and he showed me how it was unfortunately hacked up inside by some third world armorer. Showed me just how close to a catastrophic failure it was.

However mine is a rare exception to the rule. I am actively looking for another Maadi. It was my favorite of the AKs I owned. They are SHARP looking. I imagine even Col Dr Spalko would approve!

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Post by **Cajunkraut** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:37 pm

Sorry to hear about the bad luck with your Maadi, Chris. Now I know why you got rid of it! They can be hit and miss.

Was it an all-Egyptian Intrac or Pars imported model, or one of the later Century Arms Misr-90 frankenguns?

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_81/14396 ... Guide.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My Intrac has digested hundreds of rounds of various origins without a hiccup so far. *fingers crossed*

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:04 pm

It was most definitely a MISR. The MISR's are known for having lugs in sad shape. Those armorers in Egypt really have no formal training so the guns suffer.

Spalko DOES NOT approve!

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Post by **Cajunkraut** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:49 am

Chris,

See the ARFCOM link in my last post.

Chinese barrels and front trunions mated to Egyptian parts explain the Misr chop job. So the issue was likely with Norinco and/or Century Arms, not Tent 54.

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:56 am

Cajunkraut wrote:Chris,

See the ARFCOM link in my last post.

Chinese barrels and front trunions mated to Egyptian parts explain the Misr chop job. So the issue was likely with Norinco and/or Century Arms, not Tent 54.

No this was showed to me by an experienced master smith. He had seen several of these hack jobs. Century wouldn't hack a gun this bad. This was someone in a dimly lit arms room with some sort of dremel or grinder. The Egyptians are notorious for this. What scares me is that firstly Century let this gun pass their QC, and I never noticed it other than saying "wow thats ugly". Ill try to find the pictures for you. I very well could be using the wrong terms. The failure was that the parts were ground on so bad (to match mismatched parts) that the next round could have caused them to sheer off sending the entire carrier assembly flying our the back of the rifle. To scare me into getting rid of the gun, he showed me one that it had happened to and it was sobering to say the least! Ive seen some of Century's AKs that are atrocious, but this was a James Wan horror film. I sold him the parts and he kept the receiver to teach his new guy on. But now we are getting all gun technical. Let's get back to Indy! I don't want to derail any further than I have.

I want the one you have. I take donations. Got any pics?

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Post by **Cajunkraut** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:52 am

Mine looks identical to the one in the pic I posted, sans the "Steyr, Secaucus, NJ" rollmark and the wings on the bayo lug.

Back to Indy guns!

*crickets*

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:14 pm

Cajunkraut wrote:Mine looks identical to the one in the pic I posted, sans the "Steyr, Secaucus, NJ" rollmark and the wings on the bayo lug.

Back to Indy guns!

*crickets*

Ill PM you my FFL info so you can donate it to me.

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cm289 · Post by **cm289** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:09 pm

Any of you guys seen/laid hands on the GSG MP40-22? I held one a few months ago and it seemed pretty solid. They're about $450 with free shipping from a couple of different retailers now- thinking hard about ordering one.

http://gsg522.net/gsg-mp40-price-news/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:16 pm

If I got one I would have to do a stamp for it so I can ditch that horrid mock suppressor.

I almost got the Sturmgewehr .22 but when I went home to grab my card which I had left on the table someone snatched it up! And I even thought, nah it'll be there in a half hour. DOH!

Every time I visit the shop I look for that perfect Raiders 1917 but alas, skunked again! They have a Webley but not the WG. I will no longer just jump at things I "must have". I really have to get my Indy handguns squared away.

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cm289 · Post by **cm289** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:59 pm

Good luck on the 1917. Took me several yrs to get one at a decent price.

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Canasta · Post by **Canasta** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:09 am

Here is my S&W.
Funny, because the color is brownish, rather than the "Blue/Black" color.

Elk Grover · Post by **Elk Grover** » Sun May 10, 2015 11:09 am

I was thinking of getting a Colt Official Police revolver whether it is an
screen-accurate Indy gun or not. However, I noticed that the
homepage of Indygear has gone back to saying that in the "Temple
of Doom" the on screen guns used by Mr. Ford are the Eley Hand
Ejector (shooting) and the Colt New Service Revolver (out the window).

Perhaps I am remembering this wrong, but I think it used to say (until
recently) that the guns used were the Colt Official Police (shooting) and
a 5 inch S&W M&P (out the window.)

I am getting old. Perhaps I am hallucinating? Would still like to pick up
Colt, but it would be a shame to lose bragging rights- if you know what I
mean?

Indiana Bond · Post by **Indiana Bond** » Sun May 10, 2015 1:55 pm

Elk,

You are right. In Temple of Doom it was a Colt official Police and a S&W 5inch M&P used in the film. Here is the thread with all the info.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=38086" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RaiderZee and myself put a lot of work into researching what was actually used in the film and if they have changed that on the home page here in will be very upsetting. I will check into it and try to follow up.

Thanks for pointing that out!

Post by **Michaelson** » Sun May 10, 2015 2:07 pm

No reason to be upset. I think when Mike reposted his story about his trip to Hawaii and jumping into the river, I think some other old stuff got reposted as well. I alerted him.

Regards! Michaelson

Indiana Bond · Post by **Indiana Bond** » Sun May 10, 2015 2:13 pm

Thanks Michaelson!! As always you are the man!

I'm sure you remember the hard work we all put into working this one out. Hope it can be corrected on the main page soon.

baddates1 · Post by **baddates1** » Sun May 10, 2015 3:22 pm

Canasta wrote:Here is my S&W.
Funny, because the color is brownish, rather than the "Blue/Black" color.

Nice!

Post by **Michaelson** » Sun May 10, 2015 3:30 pm

Indiana Bond wrote:Thanks Michaelson!! As always you are the man!

I'm sure you remember the hard work we all put into working this one out. Hope it can be corrected on the main page soon.

Indeed I do.

UPDATE: Fixed.

Regards! M

Indiana Bond · Post by **Indiana Bond** » Mon May 11, 2015 3:38 am

Michaelson wrote:
UPDATE: Fixed.

Regards! M

Thanks Michaelson!

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:42 pm

I hear crickets.....anything new? Come on gents it's the time of year to be out burnin' powder with your shootin' irons! I might go out this week with my 1911, Hi Power, M1 Garand and a pack of Luckies and try to get some good action shots and video of them in action.

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cm289 · Post by **cm289** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:16 pm

No new Indy guns for me. I picked up a sweet little Taurus PT111G2 9mm for $200 shipped a few weeks ago. Smaller/more concealable than a Glock 19, 12+1 capacity. Picked it up from Kentucky Gun Co. if anyone else is interested.

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midgettem1 · Post by **midgettem1** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:47 pm

Here's my new-to-me S&W M1917 and Colt Army Special- precursor to the Colt "Official Police". Annnnd my Wested, whip and Akubra, just for the photo. I haven't shot either yet, but I've got the moon clip all loaded and ready for the next time I get the chance!

ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:21 am

Im green with envy! Awesome!

cm289 · Post by **cm289** » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:30 pm

Great photo

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midgettem1 · Post by **midgettem1** » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:52 pm

Thanks! Here are my two others- one "not quite" Indy Webley in .38 S&W and a S&W Victory Model currently in .38spl. The Smith is going to Cylinder and Slide to get re-barreled and re-parkerized to bring it back to it's original condition. Normally I wouldn't monkey about with an older gun, but someone decided to ream out the original cylinder to re-chamber it to .38spl before I got to it. Too bad too, the cylinder and frame are all matching, with British proof marks. I'm hoping they can use the original cylinder when they re-barrel it down to .38 S&W, but if not, I've got another they can hopefully mate to it.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:40 am

The problem I had with my old British marked Victory was the quality control (or lack of) with the drilling of the cylinder chambers.

It split lead at the forcing cone about every 3rd shot due to not being lined up with the barrel, so the guns being sent by Smith during the war for the Lend/Lease Plan overseas weren't all that good....but war production was a high speed affair, so that isn't a big surprise. Things that would have been normally caught and fixed were missed.

You may be MUCH better off having that work done if you plan on doing shooting with the piece, as since the gun has already been drilled out, there's little to no collectors value left due to it no longer being original.

You've chosen.....wisely (in my opinion).

Regard! Michaelson

midgettem1 · Post by **midgettem1** » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:42 pm

Michaelson wrote:You may be MUCH better off having that work done if you plan on doing shooting with the piece, as since the gun has already been drilled out, there's little to no collectors value left due to it no longer being original.

You've chosen.....wisely (in my opinion).

Regard! Michaelson

Thanks M. I have a close friend that's a gunsmith for Berretta. I take all my used guns to him for a once over before I shoot them. The biggest issue, separate from the chamber-reaming, is the cylinder timing- it's just slightly off on two of the chambers. While I could shoot it and probably be ok, I'm not willing to risk it. As you said, collector's value is already destroyed, so why not do a full restore to war-time specs. At least then I'll have a fun shooter.

That said, the rest of the revolvers will remain unmolested. I'm very impressed with the M1917 and Colt Army. The lock-up, timing, and barrel condition on those two are fantastic, for their age.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:26 pm

Yep, the timing on those old war horses are AWFUL, and I sure don't want to be standing next to you when it's spitting lead out of the side of the front of those two chambers..... but they sure look nice, don't they?

Regards! M

cm289 · Post by **cm289** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:54 pm

So, I broke down and got this ATI GSG MP40 in .22LR today. Haven't shot it yet but it feels amazing-it's got some heft to it and feels pretty sturdy. Working under-folder stock. Came in a cool wood crate, too. Even the faux suppressor doesn't bother me.

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ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:01 pm

That is awesome! If it were mine I would have to SBR it tho.

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cm289 · Post by **cm289** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:21 pm

Supposedly they're making the 9mm version. If I get one of those I may just have to go for an SBR.

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ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:11 pm

cm289 wrote:Supposedly they're making the 9mm version. If I get one of those I may just have to go for an SBR.

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Hold the phone....a 9mm version? Christmas is coming....and I STILL never returned Michaelson's credit card......

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cm289 · Post by **cm289** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:21 pm

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015 ... mp-40-9mm/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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cm289 · Post by **cm289** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:24 pm

And one more...

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/first- ... show-2015/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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ChrisMD · Post by **ChrisMD** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:37 pm

Thanks for the links! I would absolutely SBR one. Makes me sad no open bolt but still the MP40 is one of my favorites of all time. I would probably get the pistol version and submit the paperwork. I bet adding a stock would be easier than having that mock suppressor chopped. You made my day with this news!

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Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:47 am

For those of us who don't speak gun. SBR?

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

cm289 · Post by **cm289** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:52 am

Short-barreled-rifle. Any rifle with a barrel less than 16". Requires a fingerprint background check from ATF and a $200 tax stamp to own.

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Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:58 am

Ah, thanks.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff