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Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:19 pm
by Hedji
Nice looking hat! Suits you very well.
What does SOC stand for?
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:47 pm
by IJJTM
SOC stands for Streets of Cairo. Also the hat suits you Croft.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:19 pm
by Indiana Croft
Thanks guys, its been a go to lid for quite awhile.
Can’t wait to see your ABL KOTCS
Croft
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Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:45 pm
by Indiana_Nate
Hedji wrote:
Hi Indiana Nate.. I've been in touch with Michelle... I'm having difficulty deciding on sable or deep sable. Which is the color of your Raiders poet?
Hedji,
Please accept my sincerest apologies for not answering your question until now!
My Raiders is the original Sable, and my LC is the Deep Sable. Michelle had not yet begun to offer the Raiders in the deep sable when I ordered mine, so I do not envy your decision!!! I’ve seen a negative opinion or two voiced here on the tone of the original sable, but I love it. The contrast between the color of the felt and the ribbon is magnificent, in my humble option. With that said, the richness of the color of the deep sable is so luxurious looking. If I could go back in time and actually have the choice, I wouldn’t change a thing. “In Michelle I trust”
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Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:05 am
by Hedji
No worries, and thanks for the reply.
I would love to know more about the 40th anniversary Raiders they are offering this year. Might make my decision easier.
I feel like no matter what I decide, I will question my choice.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:02 pm
by jlee562
I'd be lying if I didn't have a little sense of FOMO upon hearing just the tease of an anniversary model. And some days I think I could have waited for dark sable beaver. But I'm really satisfied with my Poet, which is to say, I don't think there's a wrong choice!
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:28 am
by drftfan
I have plans to pick up the 40th anniversary along with a crusade this year. Their hats are expensive of course but I have no doubt I will be happy once my first one gets here this month.
Michelle’s customer service has been been pretty great and she really seems to care about making a good product.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:47 pm
by Indiana_Nate
Anytime, Hedji! I’m still waiting on my ABL CS, so the last thing I need is another hat, but I don’t know if I have the willpower to pass up a 40th anniversary HJ. This is the first I’m hearing of it. I may have to contact Michelle and see if she’ll give me any info
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Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:19 pm
by Hedji
Yeah, she’s really terrific, isn’t she? The kind of attention she gives you makes you feel like a too priority, and I’m sure she has dozens of customer emails a day. I sure hope everyone at Herbert Johnson is doing well during the current Covid lockdown.
I’m considering many options, but I will definitely own a HJ, it’s just a matter of which one. That 40th Anniversary announcement really is appealing as a collector.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:30 pm
by drftfan
I am not sure if the lockdown is affecting them much. I believe I read Michelle set up a workshop in her home.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:34 pm
by IndianaJustin
Has 40th anniversary model been released or teased or.... Perhaps I missed the info and I can't find it on their website. I'm sure I'm missing something.
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Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:58 pm
by drftfan
Pretty sure it has not been released.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:53 pm
by Indiana_Nate
I'm pretty sure that there hasn't been a post from me where I haven't praised Michelle.
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I'm fairly certain that her workshop is at/near her home, because all of her photos from the shop have remained consistent, even pre-COVID. My LC Poet was ordered during the heart of the pandemic last year and arrived just as quickly as those ordered prior. If anything, I think that the delays are now stemming from the felt suppliers.
drftfan, make sure to post some pics of that beauty when she arrives!
I haven't had a chance to reach out to Michelle, but I follow HJ pretty closely on social media and I have not seen any mention of an anniversary Poet. Last big news I saw was the introduction of the Temple Poet, which I now want in order to round out my HJ hat trilogy. It may have to go on the back burner through if a Raiders anniversary is coming.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:11 pm
by IJJTM
Here is the announcement from day 19 of their advent calendar on instagram.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:14 pm
by Indiana Croft
Well color me interested.
This may seem odd, I have a web site to HJ, but I have no idea if it’s the same one that the rest of you have.
And I don’t want to miss this.
And no I don’t Facebook or Instagram.
Croft
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Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:01 pm
by IJJTM
This wasn’t on the website, but don’t worry, we’ll keep you and everyone else updated on more info when it releases.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:10 pm
by Michaelson
Indiana Croft wrote:Well color me interested.
This may seem odd, I have a web site to HJ, but I have no idea if it’s the same one that the rest of you have.
And I don’t want to miss this.
And no I don’t Facebook or Instagram.
Croft
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You should. The Indygear FB page gets a LOT of traffic!
Regards! Michaelson
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:59 pm
by Indiana_Nate
IJJTM wrote:
Here is the announcement from day 19 of their advent calendar on instagram.
Good catch IJJTM! Can’t wait for more info on this. Something tells me that it’s going to be an expensive year for IndyGear fans...
https://herbertjohnson.co.uk/ is the best direct link.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:45 am
by mark seven
IJJTM wrote:This wasn’t on the website, but don’t worry, we’ll keep you and everyone else updated on more info when it releases.
That's good news! I'm not on facebook either and I don't want to miss this!
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Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:41 pm
by Indiana_Nate
Still no word on the release date for the Raiders Anniversary Poet. It is my understanding that some unforeseen circumstances, most likely COVID and Brexit, that are holding things up.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:30 pm
by Forrest For the Trees
It was my understanding that they were waiting for the actual anniversary of the release date, which won't be till June, I think.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:42 pm
by Indiana_Nate
Forrest For the Trees wrote:It was my understanding that they were waiting for the actual anniversary of the release date, which won't be till June, I think.
Makes sense. I read that’s what they were doing for the 4K release of the films as well.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:30 pm
by tubasthebest
Looks like June might be an expensive month! I better start saving now.
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Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:50 pm
by IJJTM
They told me on Instagram that their "campaign will launch on the run up to spring 2021 and the 40th Anniversary."
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:39 am
by jgino
Anyone have updates regarding the 40th anniversary HJ?
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:12 pm
by IJJTM
Not really, but HJ started to post more on their socials, so maybe they’ll reveal it soon, who knows.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:01 pm
by thecoolmiester
Here is my HJ being shaped after some pics I sent of the Indy HJ that sold for 500k in 2015.
Looking spot on
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Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:07 pm
by IJJTM
That looks very nice, thank you for sharing. Do we know what scenes the hat at the auction was used in?
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:54 pm
by jlee562
IJJTM wrote:That looks very nice, thank you for sharing. Do we know what scenes the hat at the auction was used in?
The Prop Store hat is the Streets of Cairo hat, also seen in other parts of the Tunisia shoot.
They still have a page up with the listing and screencaps:
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Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:14 pm
by IJJTM
Ahh, saying 2015 confused me. I was lucky enough to see it when they brought it to SDCC, sadly I wasn’t as into Indy back then as I am now.
Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:36 pm
by thecoolmiester
Once I get this puppy in the mail I may make some minor tweaks depending on what it looks like on my head. Otherwise looks heinie
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Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:37 pm
by thecoolmiester
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:38 pm
by IJJTM
Looks fantastic, that’s normal sable correct?
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:48 pm
by thecoolmiester
IJJTM wrote:Looks fantastic, that’s normal sable correct?
Yes! I went with the lighter option.
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Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:53 am
by IJJTM
No news on the 40th anniversary yet, but HJ just announced they will be reopening the store on April 12th.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:37 pm
by tubasthebest
That is great news! Where did you find it though? I checked their website and public social pages and haven't found anything.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:15 pm
by IJJTM
At the bottom of their hats of today posts on Facebook and Instagram. I’ll have to stop by their shop. Hopefully my families European vacation doesn’t get postponed again.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:23 pm
by tubasthebest
Oh there it is, thank you!
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:59 pm
by IJJTM
No problem, they hide good stuff in small text.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:48 pm
by Mfisher
I am somewhat curious about the value of the HJ... I picked one up years and years ago from Magnoli - So it was a HJ fedora that was then sent off to Steve Delk who worked his magic on it. It has been sitting in a glass display cabinet all these years and I may let it go.. but the only one I have seen on ebay was in lousy shape.. Any speculation as to what it may be worth ?
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:06 pm
by IJJTM
I wouldn’t know for sure, but considering Magnoli hasn’t sold those for a while, I would probably do an auction starting at the price you bought it.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:34 pm
by WarmWaves
Forrest For the Trees wrote:It was my understanding that they were waiting for the actual anniversary of the release date, which won't be till June, I think.
I actually spoke to Michelle earlier this week about an order I'm placing and asked about this. They are shooting for a June release but it's all contingent on if they can secure the materials they need in time. So right now it's a tentative release date.
She said the hat will be a Cairo styled rabbit Poet, unweathered with a new edition liner and interior elements.
Hope this helps!
On another note, I'm in the middle of ordering a Deep Sable Raiders Poet from them and I'm on the fence between having them put in the turn. Michelle said the best thing to do is get it open crown and do it myself but I honestly don't trust myself with that. She said she could put the turn in for me and now I'm second guessing it. I'm wondering if I should go no turn and then, if I feel confident later on, put the turn in myself. Any thoughts on this?
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:57 pm
by eazybox
WarmWaves wrote:Forrest For the Trees wrote:It was my understanding that they were waiting for the actual anniversary of the release date, which won't be till June, I think.
I actually spoke to Michelle earlier this week about an order I'm placing and asked about this. They are shooting for a June release but it's all contingent on if they can secure the materials they need in time. So right now it's a tentative release date.
She said the hat will be a Cairo styled rabbit Poet, unweathered with a new edition liner and interior elements.
Hope this helps!
On another note, I'm in the middle of ordering a Deep Sable Raiders Poet from them and I'm on the fence between having them put in the turn. Michelle said the best thing to do is get it open crown and do it myself but I honestly don't trust myself with that. She said she could put the turn in for me and now I'm second guessing it. I'm wondering if I should go no turn and then, if I feel confident later on, put the turn in myself. Any thoughts on this?
Unless you go open crown, the original Raiders crease styled by HJ is likely to still show if you put in a second, turned crease later. You'd also need to re-adjust the side creases.
Jack
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:05 pm
by WarmWaves
eazybox wrote:
Unless you go open crown, the original Raiders crease styled by HJ is likely to still show if you put in a second, turned crease later. You'd also need to re-adjust the side creases.
Jack
Thanks this is helpful. Do you know anyone that may have had problems with having them put the turn in for them? I'm basically leaning towards ordering with the turn put in.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:26 pm
by IJJTM
There are some nice videos out there that show how to do it, like on Penman’s Facebook. Also, any idea what price the 40th anniversary will be?
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:42 pm
by eazybox
WarmWaves wrote:eazybox wrote:
Unless you go open crown, the original Raiders crease styled by HJ is likely to still show if you put in a second, turned crease later. You'd also need to re-adjust the side creases.
Jack
Thanks this is helpful. Do you know anyone that may have had problems with having them put the turn in for them? I'm basically leaning towards ordering with the turn put in.
The turn is basically to make the brim warp the way it looks in a lot of scenes from RAIDERS. It would be no problem for HJ to style correctly, but whether or not you like the resulting look when you wear the hat will come down to personal taste, not HJ's ability to style the turn. You could ask for just a slight turn if you're concerned that the warping would be too drastic for your taste.
Jack
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:10 pm
by Ranger36
eazybox wrote:WarmWaves wrote:eazybox wrote:
Unless you go open crown, the original Raiders crease styled by HJ is likely to still show if you put in a second, turned crease later. You'd also need to re-adjust the side creases.
Jack
Thanks this is helpful. Do you know anyone that may have had problems with having them put the turn in for them? I'm basically leaning towards ordering with the turn put in.
The turn is basically to make the brim warp the way it looks in a lot of scenes from RAIDERS. It would be no problem for HJ to style correctly, but whether or not you like the resulting look when you wear the hat will come down to personal taste, not HJ's ability to style the turn. You could ask for just a slight turn if you're concerned that the warping would be too drastic for your taste.
Jack
A slight turn is what I opted for as the warping can sometimes be overstated in recreations I think. The slight turn looks fantastic in real-life and I'm very pleased. This reminds me I need to get some photos up to show off the new hat.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:41 pm
by WarmWaves
Ranger36 wrote:eazybox wrote:WarmWaves wrote:eazybox wrote:
Unless you go open crown, the original Raiders crease styled by HJ is likely to still show if you put in a second, turned crease later. You'd also need to re-adjust the side creases.
Jack
Thanks this is helpful. Do you know anyone that may have had problems with having them put the turn in for them? I'm basically leaning towards ordering with the turn put in.
The turn is basically to make the brim warp the way it looks in a lot of scenes from RAIDERS. It would be no problem for HJ to style correctly, but whether or not you like the resulting look when you wear the hat will come down to personal taste, not HJ's ability to style the turn. You could ask for just a slight turn if you're concerned that the warping would be too drastic for your taste.
Jack
A slight turn is what I opted for as the warping can sometimes be overstated in recreations I think. The slight turn looks fantastic in real-life and I'm very pleased. This reminds me I need to get some photos up to show off the new hat.
Yes please do!
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:42 pm
by WarmWaves
IJJTM wrote:There are some nice videos out there that show how to do it, like on Penman’s Facebook. Also, any idea what price the 40th anniversary will be?
Whoops sorry, I missed this! Unfortunately no, I didn't ask her because I decided to get mine done now.
Re: Is Herbert Johnson the holy grail of indy fedoras now?
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:00 am
by IJJTM
Aye aye, thanks anyway for the update, I appreciate it.