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Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:31 am
by SpeedRcrX
I don't own a CS jacket, in the photo I'm wearing a Raider in Goat, so I can't tell you about the difference between a TN CS and a TN Raider

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:48 pm
by Heyjude7
while wearing my new wested ROLA custom since the day i got it for about a week now, i noticed it falls off my shoulders..when i fix it back, a few moves later and its right back to falling off the shoulders.. you can see by the shoulder seam...
then i thought about this thread..so i took a few pics and wanted to show you all.. these arent the greatest of pics but you can get what im talkin about from them..please excuse my sick look.. im on convo leave and have not bothered to shave in a week.

took pics off and replaced them with the ones below ;)

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:06 pm
by Heyjude7
No prob..i'll get the wife to take them when she gets home ;) My good Ol' lady

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:20 pm
by Heyjude7
anytime 8) i wear my Todds shirt

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:38 pm
by binkmeisterRick
And while you're at it, can you shave, save the goatee, and put on a hat and glasses? ;) And allow the jacket to hang on you naturally, without fidgeting. Wear it like you normally would and see what happens. 8)

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:53 pm
by RCSignals
Heyjude7 wrote:while wearing my new wested ROLA custom since the day i got it for about a week now, i noticed it falls off my shoulders..when i fix it back, a few moves later and its right back to falling off the shoulders.. you can see by the shoulder seam...
then i thought about this thread..so i took a few pics and wanted to show you all.. these arent the greatest of pics but you can get what im talkin about from them..please excuse my sick look.. im on convo leave and have not bothered to shave in a week.

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It's really not doing it in those photos.

'off the shoulder' isn't a good term for what it does. The statement should have been more like 'falling back'.

Your jacket isn't doing that, sorry.

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:16 pm
by Heyjude7
ok here are a few of the wife's help shots.. i could be wrong but it feels like its falling back or off the shoulders
its up to you guys and gals
thanks for the views ;)

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Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:20 pm
by RCSignals
I still don't see it doing it. I will say though that collar gives the jacket a look no other Wested Raider has. It's fantastic.

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:41 pm
by Holt
I can see now when I see it from the side that the jacket is one size to big for you...

if you like it then super great for you, but I think its just a bit to big..

sorry my friend...just my 2c

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:11 pm
by Heyjude7
Thanks Gents..
RC.. :D that makes me smile ..i finally have a jacket that has that "something" to it.. that somethin is the collar

Holt.. i appreciate the opinion.. you know how i am.. ;) i like the bigger fit for the winter time.. or a lilttle room so when i bulk up i cant still fit my wested

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:17 pm
by Heyjude7
binkmeisterRick wrote:And while you're at it, can you shave, save the goatee, and put on a hat and glasses? ;) And allow the jacket to hang on you naturally, without fidgeting. Wear it like you normally would and see what happens. 8)
Hey Bink, when i get my Fed this week, i will shave a goatee and put my glasses on and do an impression of our favourite neighborhood mod! :D

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:22 pm
by binkmeisterRick
:lol: I figured everyone else was putting in requests... :lol: ;) Honestly, it would help if the pictures were a bit higher since some of the collar gets cut off in the images. I'm not getting as good an overall idea of how the collar hangs, though it looks a bit like how my Wested lays around the neck.

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:30 pm
by Heyjude7
i gotta get a better camera too.. i wil take better better pics when i get my bro in laws camera tomorrow.. i promise ;)

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:23 am
by Raskolnikov
Mac wrote: These are all from the same shot, no cuts away. Notice how the collar tip goes from "pointy" in the first photo to less pointy in the second, to rounded in the third.

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In that picture Ford's eyes are falling off the sockets (sorry, I couldn't help it).

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:13 am
by PLATON
After seeing this

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and this

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I wonder if the off shoulders look is desirable.
What do you think?

just compare the top right and bottom right pics and let me know.

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:34 am
by binkmeisterRick
Platon, this was covered on page one of this thread:
Baldwyn wrote:
binkmeisterRick wrote:
So, again, the reason why Tony's jacket "does it" while the Wested "doesn't" is due solely to the patterns used in making the jackets.
Also, of course, the on screen jackets may vary to the degree in which they do this. The initial Raven bar jacket seems to be more proper than say, the initial Hawaii jacket. Although, I gotta say, I think in some scenes, Ford is wearing the jacket off the shoulders on purpose because it's hot!!

My Wested wears off the shoulders ok (ie. I can wear it off the shoulders and it stays in place, not that it necessarily naturally falls there). My TN CS definitely prefers not to be worn off the shoulders.
It's a difference between which jackets were used for which scene and how the pattern, quirks, and individual jackets were constructed. Also, the Raven Bar jacket was zipped, whereas my pictures show the jacket unzipped, so that also accounts for the degree of slippage off the shoulders of my jacket. My Nowak also seems to react a bit differently each time I wear it. Sometimes I get a lot of shoulder movement, and sometimes not so much. It truly has a character all its own. I also believe that the body of the wearer affects how the Nowak will drape. My shoulders naturally slope a bit, so that aids in the movement of the shoulders on this jacket.

But the off-the-shoulder look is not for everyone. It takes a little getting used to if you're accustomed to modern jackets with a properly designed pattern. Some folks prefer an Indy jacket that looks Indy yet corrects all the faults and quirks of the original. Others prefer it as SA as possible, warts and all. Nothing wrong with either one, in my book. Some may never be happy either way. Those are the fans I feel sorry for.

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:48 am
by Hatch
Well said Binkster..... :clap:

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:24 pm
by Holt
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Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:33 pm
by Heyjude7
Love the shorts Eric :D

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:31 pm
by Dutch_jones
Maaan you remind of that actor Patrick wilson :P that jacket is cool man !:D you've got a winner there !

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:53 pm
by Holt
neutronbomb wrote:Done :lol:

I had no idea there was surfing in Norway. I would think it might be a bit chilly on the... [-X [-o< :shock: but you're a Viking so I'm sure..... :twisted:
no.. no surfing.. alot of wake boarding though...

I live at the lowest part of Norway down by the coast.. so it gets nice and warm here around end of april beginning of may...

Re: 'Off The Shoulder'

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:00 pm
by Raskolnikov
I know what you mean. I used to go on summers to Risor, which is in the south of Norway too. It was really nice and the weather was perfect for the season.