A bespoke Professor suit from Raiders, with Niven Tailors
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A bespoke Professor suit from Raiders, with Niven Tailors
Thought I could add something here for gearheads looking for an alternative "fix" over winter 2022....
I was watching Raiders for the 49 millionth time, and I got to thinking, how about a suit to cover Tokyo winters, in tweed, with some nice 30's features that would cover my need for Indy gear, look good enough to use here without that connection, and be strong enough to last for the rest of my time on this planet...
So, I contacted my tailor, Sajid, the owner of Niven Bespoke suiting, a small operation run out of London, using Sajid to source the fabrics and design and construction, and his tailor to get the suits made and fitted entirely, a long process but one entirely worth the time taken.
I asked him for a suit made along the Raiders lines, similar to what Magnoli offers, but with bespoke entirely, so my choice of fabric, and fitted to me, using the same measurements he'd used last time for my first suit from Niven (a rather wonderful burgundy/purple three piece with peak lapels) and somewhat refined for the new fabric.
He was more than happy to try, and we ran through several basic ideas, using Raiders as a rough guide, and mixing in elements of Sajid's knowledge of Bond suiting especially, and that of a mutual friend of ours, Matt Spaiser, of Bondsuits.com as well, so that the final suit would be something Indy would have used or seen, his father would also have been comfortable with, and Bond also, could have gotten away with in the early 60's...
The details were a fabric of fawn and moss green coloured Donegal Tweed, 500g+ weight, a heavy British wool that would absolutely hold up to pretty much anything I could throw at it here, and would come close to the original suits colour, although his suit is a thinner fabric I think.
Design wise, we went for pleated trousers, although Indy doesn't seem to use pleats in the professor costume in Raiders, his Cairo/Adventure trousers do, and it's a style I rather liked personally, as well as one used commonly by Bond in Connery's films at least, so would fill in those gaps nicely! Again, we chose to use a military hem as a nod to Indy, longer in the back of the foot and higher by a half inch or so at the front, to form a soft, single break.
The waistcoat would be a high gorge, to throwback to the 1920's or 30's somewhat, with six, brown horn buttons and four pockets, and the jacket would have two buttons with the same horn, and a third, "Jigger button" to close the front of the jacket without disrupting the lines created by the lapel sweep.
For the jacket, we went with the three patch pockets of Indy's suit, and a notch lapel, somewhat high on the chest to allow a wide sweep out since I rather like the wider look it adds to the chest appearance.. And for design, we took the half belt look from Raiders, as well as the back, which features an interesting inverted pleat, to add some stretch to the back piece for width. Indy's uses a couple of extra pleats on either side as well to add further width, but with the heavy weight of the fabric we were using, wouldn't be possible, so we decided to use darts instead of the pleats there, and rely on the inverted pleat and Sajid's accuracy in measuring me for all the width I would need. The jacket has no vents, so the size needed to be close, but also allow that spread as well, and the pleat was going to cover that. Four working buttons on the cuff of course, finished the jacket off nicely.
I'll add the photos of the process over the next couple of posts too, but wanted the write up to be in one place here, I hope you'll excuse the disconnection there!
If anyone is interested in a bespoke suit from Niven Tailors I would absolutely recommend Sajid to you, and tell him I sent you over and he'll be happy to work up anything you're interested in trying out. This is my second such suit from Niven, and I have a dinner suit and a white dinner jacket in line, as well as another, greyer fabric tweed three piece coming up sometime too.. Bespoke suiting I know, isn't for everyone, and honestly, with Covid etc, may not even be necessary in work much more either, but, as a suit lover, it DOES make a huge difference to have this attention to details, and involvement all the way through the process too... I would recommend Niven Tailors to anyone who was interested.
Thanks for reading! Photos to follow!
I was watching Raiders for the 49 millionth time, and I got to thinking, how about a suit to cover Tokyo winters, in tweed, with some nice 30's features that would cover my need for Indy gear, look good enough to use here without that connection, and be strong enough to last for the rest of my time on this planet...
So, I contacted my tailor, Sajid, the owner of Niven Bespoke suiting, a small operation run out of London, using Sajid to source the fabrics and design and construction, and his tailor to get the suits made and fitted entirely, a long process but one entirely worth the time taken.
I asked him for a suit made along the Raiders lines, similar to what Magnoli offers, but with bespoke entirely, so my choice of fabric, and fitted to me, using the same measurements he'd used last time for my first suit from Niven (a rather wonderful burgundy/purple three piece with peak lapels) and somewhat refined for the new fabric.
He was more than happy to try, and we ran through several basic ideas, using Raiders as a rough guide, and mixing in elements of Sajid's knowledge of Bond suiting especially, and that of a mutual friend of ours, Matt Spaiser, of Bondsuits.com as well, so that the final suit would be something Indy would have used or seen, his father would also have been comfortable with, and Bond also, could have gotten away with in the early 60's...
The details were a fabric of fawn and moss green coloured Donegal Tweed, 500g+ weight, a heavy British wool that would absolutely hold up to pretty much anything I could throw at it here, and would come close to the original suits colour, although his suit is a thinner fabric I think.
Design wise, we went for pleated trousers, although Indy doesn't seem to use pleats in the professor costume in Raiders, his Cairo/Adventure trousers do, and it's a style I rather liked personally, as well as one used commonly by Bond in Connery's films at least, so would fill in those gaps nicely! Again, we chose to use a military hem as a nod to Indy, longer in the back of the foot and higher by a half inch or so at the front, to form a soft, single break.
The waistcoat would be a high gorge, to throwback to the 1920's or 30's somewhat, with six, brown horn buttons and four pockets, and the jacket would have two buttons with the same horn, and a third, "Jigger button" to close the front of the jacket without disrupting the lines created by the lapel sweep.
For the jacket, we went with the three patch pockets of Indy's suit, and a notch lapel, somewhat high on the chest to allow a wide sweep out since I rather like the wider look it adds to the chest appearance.. And for design, we took the half belt look from Raiders, as well as the back, which features an interesting inverted pleat, to add some stretch to the back piece for width. Indy's uses a couple of extra pleats on either side as well to add further width, but with the heavy weight of the fabric we were using, wouldn't be possible, so we decided to use darts instead of the pleats there, and rely on the inverted pleat and Sajid's accuracy in measuring me for all the width I would need. The jacket has no vents, so the size needed to be close, but also allow that spread as well, and the pleat was going to cover that. Four working buttons on the cuff of course, finished the jacket off nicely.
I'll add the photos of the process over the next couple of posts too, but wanted the write up to be in one place here, I hope you'll excuse the disconnection there!
If anyone is interested in a bespoke suit from Niven Tailors I would absolutely recommend Sajid to you, and tell him I sent you over and he'll be happy to work up anything you're interested in trying out. This is my second such suit from Niven, and I have a dinner suit and a white dinner jacket in line, as well as another, greyer fabric tweed three piece coming up sometime too.. Bespoke suiting I know, isn't for everyone, and honestly, with Covid etc, may not even be necessary in work much more either, but, as a suit lover, it DOES make a huge difference to have this attention to details, and involvement all the way through the process too... I would recommend Niven Tailors to anyone who was interested.
Thanks for reading! Photos to follow!
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And the photos!
This is the choice of the initial fabric, and the start of work on the pattern for the trousers and waistcoat
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This is the choice of the initial fabric, and the start of work on the pattern for the trousers and waistcoat
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Trouser detailing..
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Jacket being created, non fused of course, so a full floating canvas being sewn in
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The back details starting to fall into place, although we decided to shift the belt a touch lower after this to balance better with the back length
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Back all done..
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Lining chosen.. I wanted something elegant but also in my favourite colour, burgundy or close to it, and we found this.. I felt it worked well with the grey of the tweed!
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Waistcoat all finished off finally!
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Buttons still to be sewn on, so we chatted about stance and roughly where it would fall..
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And then all I had to do was wait! It was sent out and arrived just in time for Christmas here in Tokyo!
I’ve added some headpiece to the Staff of Ra cuffs and a tie from Magnoli to finish..
As well as my Penman Crusade.. Naturally
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Thank you all for looking!
And apologies for the slightly spammy approach to photos I took! Using the phone and computer together isn’t always as smooth as it should be!
Apologies!
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That's a great looking suit and subtly captures the vintage style!
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Thank you! The suit has always caught my eye in the film anyway, and his dad wears a similar suit in Crusade, minus a few details, so it was always one I’d had in the back of my mind!IndyJedi wrote:That's a great looking suit and subtly captures the vintage style!
I guess the idea of mixing it with something Bond related too also caught my attention!
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Absolutely beautiful suit, and you wear it well!!!
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That's absolutely stunning! I'm in love to be honest! The way the attention to details practically oozes out of every facet of the suit is incredible! Perfection!
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That’s a sharp looking suit!
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Totally awesome!
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Thank you!
The biggest thing I love about custom suiting is exactly that! Being able to talk about the details and the things you'd like, and see them being made up and working on a suit you're genuinely PART of... It's so much fun! The owner of Niven Bespoke, Sajid, is such a knowledgeable bloke, and has so many ideas taken from movies or suits he's encountered that I've spent whole days just talking with him about details I've spotted on a suit in a film or online somewhere, and giving him ideas for the suits to come, and him giving me inspiration for what I'll ask him to make next up too... It's a great part of the fun of it all!
I know bespoke clothing isn't for everyone, of course, but if you wear a suit regularly enough? It's so, so much better than just buying one off rack from a shop with a fused canvas and "not quite right"... I guess that's the exact same pattern we've all experienced here with our Indy gear too eh? Custom is the only REAL way to get what YOU want from the clothes we love...
I'd recommend the jump, it's well worth saving for.
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Thank you Nebraska! I remember you'd also had one, although I couldn't remember where you got yours? Magnoli perhaps? And I'd always thought that looked dapper as well! I'm a teacher as well, so I guess our profession leads in that direction somewhat!Dr. Nebraska S. wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:52 am That’s a sharp looking suit!
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Honoured my friend, thank you very much, and all the best for the New Year too!
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That's a really great suit!
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Thank you!
I'm so glad it worked as well as it did! The whole idea of bespoke is to have something for YOURSELF, so copying other ideas can only go so far! I'm lucky that the tailor understood this and didn't try to copy the suit exactly!
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I bet it is amazing to have something like this, just your own. They really did a fantastic job, it fits you perfectly.
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Long time no see! Looking good dude!!!
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Hey brother! Yeah! I got lost on Facebook and Instagram mostly.. Work etc kinda took over too, so I don’t have the free time as much to post here.. But it’s winter break now! So! Figured I’d return! Missed ya man, how you been? What’s the latest?Hollowpond wrote:Long time no see! Looking good dude!!!
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Wow, this is fantastic! 100/10.
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Thank you very much! High praise indeed!
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Absolute beauty!
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Hey mate!
Thanks a lot! Can't wait to see the new shirts too!