American toy gun laws

parsa · Post by **parsa** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 3:56 am

I think this article is a year old, but it shows England is not the only nation to ban replica or toy guns:

http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20030617 ... -6331r.htm

It seems ludicrous that an American can own a real gun, but that having a toy could get him arrested.

I think Sgt Hulka has something to say:

Lighten up Francis!

Parsa

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 4:33 am

Let's take away a kids toy guns but do nothing to keep criminals from getting real guns. Of course, you can't let a kid have a toy gun, but it is okay for him to sit there all day long playing a video game where he justs blasts away at anything that comes on the screen. Duh.

schwammy · Post by **schwammy** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 6:45 am

Very good point. I'm glad I grew up when I did - the toy guns Edison Giacattoli put out were the greatest ever!

Trevelyan · Post by **Trevelyan** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:55 pm

My favorite part is how she wants to fine criminals more if they use a toy gun in a stick up than if they used a real gun. Now that makes sense

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 6:01 pm

yea thoes Edison Giacattoli gap guns are great! I have 4 of them and i bought all of them at a flea market. 2 lugers and 1 browning looking gun. I also have a indy looking revolver made by them. The only place to buy them now is on ebay or at a flea market. but, You can also buy them online at,
http://www.bbguns.co.uk/acatalog/BB_Gun ... li_98.html
Adam

parsa · Post by **parsa** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:51 pm

I noticed that 411toys.com sells "New York Legal" toy guns on one of its pages. They are bright clear plastic, but still look like real guns. Any criminal wanting to use it in a robbery would just need to paint it, and the kids who use them are still playing with guns, so what exactly is the point?
The statement is well taken about violent video games. They can be much more violent and graphic than a bunch of boys running around and hiding behind bushes shouting "pow pow."
I don't own a gun, and have no real desire to get a real one, but I played "army" when I was a kid. I didn't turn into some blood thirsty killer. If kids don't use toy replicas, they'll pick up a broom stick and it will become a rifle. I can see the court proceedings in the future: "Your honor, this boy was caught with a deadly broomstick in his possession. He was firing imaginary bullets at his friends. Lock him up and throw away the key."

parsa · Post by **parsa** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:57 pm

Exactly what are the laws regarding the orange caps on toy guns? Is it a federal law, or is it a requirement of some US states that toy manufacturers are conforming to? Do the orange cap laws extend to owners, and under what circumstances? I could buy a real gun and keep it in the house, and I don't need an orange cap. Is the cap so it can be used as a toy outdoors? What's to keep criminals from putting orange caps on real guns and carrying them around in a holster?

I'm not dumb enough to carry even a toy gun around in public as an adult. People in California are too paranoid for that.

To where do gear fans carry their guns around?

Parsa

MK · Post by MK » Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:18 pm

In the desert.

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:50 pm

FanzillaCon?

at-least it was a empty holster

Adam

whipwarrior · Post by **whipwarrior** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:54 pm

I have only one thing to say about that lady and her stupid proposal: Boo frickety hoo.

Glurrk · Post by **Glurrk** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:48 am

I'm not sure I understand the logic here. What makes a person wake up one morning and say, "I believe I will devote my energies to keep toy guns out of the hands of children, as opposed to keeping real firearms out of the hands of criminals."

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I guess it's easier to make our greatest resource a target, I suppose. Some people are just lazy!

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:51 pm

parsa wrote: To where do gear fans carry their guns around?

Right now, I carry a gun to the gun range and back and usually take one to be worked on when visiting, gunsmith, Tip Burns. As I understand it, in the state of Texas, it is legal to carry a consealed handgun when traveling by car where you will be 1.) staying overnight away from home and 2.) the place you are staying is more than 2 counties away from your current residence.

Once you get a CHL, the restrictions are much less. You are able to carry it with you as long as it is hidden from view or consealed. You still can not, however, carry them in places like banks, establishments that sell alcohol, schools, and the like. Or, places that post signs stating you can not carry them inside.

Pyro.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:52 pm

Last week I watched a local TV station report on kids and guns. They videotaped a police safety officer talking to a group of pre-schoolers about gun safety at length, then he left the room. The kids were taken out to play, then the reporter hid several unloaded guns all around the classroom in the toy boxes. The kids were then taped as they discovered the firearms, and the follow thru of whether or not the training had any effect. This was all done with the parents consent, as well as was viewed by the parents by monitor as the 'discoverys' were made. Needless to say, most of the children failed miserably.
Know which kids failed? The ones whose parents did not own firearms, and had NEVER been taught right from the get-go gun about safety. Those that did , and were taught from the beginning, reacted immediately and reported the guns to the adult in charge, without touching the firearms discovered.
My biggest gripe about the whole thing......let's see a show of hands from all the gun owners reading this....how many of you store your firearms in your kids toy boxes?

OK, besides you, Jess....ok...nobody?...Uh huh. That's what I thought... Now THAT'S real NEWS investigation! A real life situation!:roll:

Regards. Michaelson

p.s. In Tennessee, the concealed carry is called a CCP, and it's the same as described in Pyro's post. I've had one for several years now.

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:05 pm

As firearms are a tool of my trade. I faced this dilemma when my daughter was young. I handled it by taking the guns out, making them safe, telling her about gun safety, and letting her handle the guns. I told her that she could see the guns any time that she wanted, all she had to do was ask. But, I told her that I had to be around to make the gun safe for her. I kept the guns locked up. Since she could see them or handle them if she wanted, they never were a big deal. I never had a problem with her and my guns.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:09 pm

I did the same with our daughters. They're both now in their early to mid 20's, and survived just fine with weapons in not only our house, but those of their aunts, uncles and grandparents. What has happened to common sense?

Regards. Michaelson

Kevjh · Post by **Kevjh** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:29 pm

Common sense Where dose it come from. Not from law makers!! The gun thing if out of control. Don't get me wrong I own many guns and don't have a problem with them. My wife and I just just had a son and I know he will learn gun safty to and if he dosn't thats my fault. Not the law or guns.

Kilgour Trout · Post by **Kilgour Trout** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:39 pm

I've been looking into the possible purchase of a "Model" Webley Mk 4. Being the good law abiding "Canuck that I am"

, I called our Provincial Police force to find out whether it was acceptible. Well....what I found out is amazing. After two calls to the OPP, they suggested I talk to the local gunsmith to find out the scoop. (So much for having a straight answer eh) So in calling our smithy and a Canadian supplier...I was told that a model or replica handgun is considered a restricted handgun

. Furthermore...that if I happened to have one already, I would have to have it locked up as if it were a real gun. It gets even crazier when, I learned that the replica's are restricted because they don't do anything

. I could own and register a CO2 look alike but I couldn't buy a pistol that doesn't do anything

. The fella I talked to in Edmonton understood my frustration and thought it the most rediculous legislation he's ever heard.
I will honestly say...I'm not a strong "Pro-hand Gun" person, but even I think this law is nuts. I would love to try firing a pistol on a range but the logistics of ever possessing a pistol for any purpose seems pretty remote. Due to this, I will be looking closely at all the Red Nosed toy revolvers I can find to fill out the holster I'm sussing out. Just thought I'd let you in on some of the hyper-legislation we're facing in the Great White North.

Warm Regards
Kilgour Trout

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:49 pm

Well aware of it, and don't get me started. The story behind how your laws even GOT passed boggle the mind. evil: You have my deepest sympathies.

Regards. Michaelson

Renderking Fisk · Post by **Renderking Fisk** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 10:12 am

I’ve written about this before, and caused an argument. This time I’m going to be a bit more sensitive.

What ever country you live in, what ever state you live in America, DON’T TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER. Get involed in voting, town meetings… what ever. It’s pretty scary that the government thinks that only the military and the police should have firearms… the same mentality that got Europe in the 1930’s via Berlin.

This is more then just a Constitutional Right issue, this is a HUMAN Right.

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