KotCS Backpack (UPDATED thread on Germany Army Rucksack!)

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:49 am

Pygar wrote:Many thanks!

I figure an Indy backpack deserves period camping gear, so... Just got a (WWI) Model of 1916 bacon can and a (WWI) condiment tin (holds 3 days coffee in one end, three days sugar in the other, and a cap *in* one cap to hold the salt ration). I wish I knew a place that does hot tin dipping- I've cleaned and sandblocked them down to good gray metal. The sort of thing any Indy type would have on him in that era...

There are some amazing metal spray paint these days. I really like the Rustoleum Bright Coat Metallic Finish line. I tried their Chrome and a few coats yielded amazing results. Gone are the days of chrome paint just looking like regular silver paint. I'm sure there's something that would match a hot dipped galvanize look.

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:51 am

Tundrarider wrote:
lantzn wrote:How big of an area do all these letters fit in?
About 2" x 4"

Michael

That could easily be scanned. I'll have to keep that in mind the next time a member sends me an original.

Pygar · Post by **Pygar** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:25 pm

I appreciate the good word about paint, but since food is involved... I've emailed one tinner's business, no reply though. The ones I can find seem dedicated to tinning worn copper pans, or electronics parts...

Pygar · Post by **Pygar** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:00 am

Does the ruck come with the pouch for holding a folding sleep mat? How wide a mat- 20, 22 inches? Is the mat still available?

J.W. · Post by **J.W.** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:36 am

Folding sleeping mats can be found here: http://www.raeer.com/shopexd.asp?id=30356. They are the original version used by the German army and are not very comfortable IIRC.

Post by **Indiana Jeff** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:27 am

So that's what the internal pocket is for.

I may have to get one of the mats just to give my bag some structure and padding on the back.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Post by **Jens** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:14 pm

Yeah, good for the padding, but a pain if you're supposed to sleep on these things. Out in the woods. In the middle of the night. Ah, army service.

J.W. · Post by **J.W.** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:35 pm

@Tundrarider: I'm afraid that website is German-only, they don't offer any other languages. But even for Germans, I think its a PITA to navigate...

Pygar · Post by **Pygar** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:18 pm

http://translate.google.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is terrific- just paste the url after selecting the languages! My thanks!

Misfit13 · Post by **Misfit13** » Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:08 pm

I have found these as well on ASMC.de. I use them for my German mountain packs from the '90's.

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:41 pm

Misfit13 wrote:I have found these as well on ASMC.de. I use them for my German mountain packs from the '90's.

They also must be out of stock. I'm only finding the camo version with the plastic connectors. The correct number is MFH 30303B

Bigfoot · Post by **Bigfoot** » Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:58 pm

Lantzn, saw these on another board I am on. Looks like they are in stock.

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/ ... -used/1014" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pygar · Post by **Pygar** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:28 am

Bigfoot wrote:Lantzn, saw these on another board I am on. Looks like they are in stock.

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/ ... -used/1014" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting!

Those strap connectors, the ones that release by squeezing with two fingers... what are they called? Can one buy simple straps with such connectors, from perhaps a foot up to several feet?

Thanks for the info!

J.W. · Post by **J.W.** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:13 am

You can buy these straps and the quick-release-buckles separately, shouldn't be a problem. Try eBay or your local outdoor store.

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:31 pm

Pygar wrote:
Bigfoot wrote:Lantzn, saw these on another board I am on. Looks like they are in stock.

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/ ... -used/1014" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting!

Those strap connectors, the ones that release by squeezing with two fingers... what are they called? Can one buy simple straps with such connectors, from perhaps a foot up to several feet?

Thanks for the info!

This one with those type straps are the more modern version of the 30303B bag. Both are made by MFH. As stated you can buy those types of connectors and straps all over the place you can even find used ones at Goodwill on many of the cheap backpacks and things like that.

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:30 pm

The MFH is back in stock.

teneas · Post by **teneas** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:29 am

Military 1st appears to not carry them any longer

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:21 am

teneas wrote:Military 1st appears to not carry them any longer

They are on the last page (page 20) under Backpacks and Rucksacks.

teneas · Post by **teneas** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:02 am

yeah apparently on my iPad something wasn't working right and I could not pull it up. Got one ordered now

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:51 pm

Has anyone received a pack from this latest batch? I'm curious what color they went with this time, the earlier browner or the later green color.

teneas · Post by **teneas** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:45 pm

Will post pics as soon as mine comes in.

teneas · Post by **teneas** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:23 pm

Got mine in from M1st!! Love it.

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:16 pm

teneas wrote:Will post pics as soon as mine comes in.

I'm not seeing the photos.

teneas · Post by **teneas** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:37 pm

lantzn wrote:
teneas wrote:Will post pics as soon as mine comes in.
I'm not seeing the photos.

LOL nope, haven't had a place or chance away from work long enough to sport the bad boy. It would do no justice to give you guys a picture of it hanging in the closet currently.

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:41 pm

What color did they go with on this batch?

teneas · Post by **teneas** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:45 pm

Made me feel like I was letting everyone down. Here is a quick shot I took so you could see the color.

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:52 am

Looks like they may have gone back to the browner color, which is my preference.

teneas · Post by **teneas** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:28 pm

lantzn wrote:Looks like they may have gone back to the browner color, which is my preference.

I feel like it's definitely more the greenish hue.

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:08 pm

I ordered one of the new ones. It is definitely the lighter "brown-olive" color like the one on the right - not the forest green color on the left. (I have one of those too.)

teneas · Post by **teneas** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:21 pm

It's definitely a mix between the 2 colors in my opinion. Green for sure, but nothing like that forest green version.

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:41 pm

teneas wrote:It's definitely a mix between the 2 colors in my opinion. Green for sure, but nothing like that forest green version.

Can you get some photos of it outdoors next to another familiar Indy gear? Hat jacket maybe?

teneas · Post by **teneas** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:27 pm

I will do next time I am out doing some stuff in the woods, fishing, etc. Would love to take one with a jacket..just patiently waiting on S&J to craft my Temple jacket.

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:42 pm

Here are the two versions in the 107 degree sunlight with my TN CS jacket and Penman #198.

This is the older, greener one.

And this is the newer more olive colored one

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:47 am

NICE color? It really looks close to the color of the bag in the church/prison room in South America.

Ridgerunner58 · Post by **Ridgerunner58** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:16 pm

lantzn wrote:NICE color? It really looks close to the color of the bag in the church/prison room in South America.

I think quite close. I much prefer the more muted olive color. Now it just needs longer straps . . .

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:26 pm

The MFH rucksack is in stock at the Amazon UK by the manufacturer.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MFH-Bundeswehr ... B00753MR4C

http://www.armysector.com/backpacks/mfh ... er-straps/

giantthugee86 · Post by **giantthugee86** » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:59 pm

Is this a good one? Is the price good?

https://tinyurl.com/lm3u4gf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

giantthugee86 · Post by **giantthugee86** » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:18 pm

Does anyone have the contact for the person that makes the leather patches for $10?

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:40 am

giantthugee86 wrote:Is this a good one? Is the price good?

https://tinyurl.com/lm3u4gf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's a decent price or you can buy direct.
http://www.military1st.co.uk/30303b-ger ... olive.html

giantthugee86 · Post by **giantthugee86** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:26 pm

lantzn wrote:
giantthugee86 wrote:Is this a good one? Is the price good?

https://tinyurl.com/lm3u4gf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That's a decent price or you can buy direct.
http://www.military1st.co.uk/30303b-ger ... olive.html

Thanks! I got it on ebay.

Does anyone know the approx. dimensions of the leather patch?

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:11 pm

giantthugee86 wrote:
lantzn wrote:
giantthugee86 wrote:Is this a good one? Is the price good?

https://tinyurl.com/lm3u4gf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That's a decent price or you can buy direct.
http://www.military1st.co.uk/30303b-ger ... olive.html

Thanks! I got it on ebay.

Does anyone know the approx. dimensions of the leather patch?

Are you referring to the HJ label or something on the pack?
If the HJ label i have that siz here;
http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=54210

giantthugee86 · Post by **giantthugee86** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:24 pm

lantzn wrote:
giantthugee86 wrote:
lantzn wrote:
giantthugee86 wrote:Is this a good one? Is the price good?

https://tinyurl.com/lm3u4gf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That's a decent price or you can buy direct.
http://www.military1st.co.uk/30303b-ger ... olive.html

Thanks! I got it on ebay.

Does anyone know the approx. dimensions of the leather patch?
Are you referring to the HJ label or something on the pack?
If the HJ label i have that siz here;
http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=54210

The HJ label. Thanks! Do you know the length of the leather arm straps?

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:57 pm

I just sent a label and long straps to zhund.

Wotalark · Post by **Wotalark** » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:46 pm

Hi all

I feel like a very latecomer to this thread which seems to have been going for years.

The bags seem easy enough to get hold of but is anyone making the long leather straps and how easy is it to replace the canvas ones that the bags come with please?

I also wondered if anyone is selling the leather patches?

thanks

IndyTaz · Post by **IndyTaz** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:47 pm

Hey bud I'm actually moving one with the leather name plate too. It's not seen in yet. Pm me your email and I can send u a pic if u want.

Regards
T
A
Z

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lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:05 am

Wotalark wrote: ...is anyone making the long leather straps and how easy is it to replace the canvas ones that the bags come with please?
I also wondered if anyone is selling the leather patches?
thanks

I sell both. The long straps are all leather that stitch onto the canvas which just goes over the shoulder just like the originals. I just finished zhund's "KZ" order above and a customer is sending me their new bag directly from the vendor. Save on shipping that way.

Wotalark · Post by **Wotalark** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:51 am

Thanks Taz and Lantzn. PMs sent.

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:13 pm

Just heading to COW member Wotalark in the UK.

Wotalark · Post by **Wotalark** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:03 am

Just to say I had real fun speccing this with Lantz.
It' is currently in transit.

We had a great debate about what colour it is, green or brown. It really depends on the light you take the photo in it seems.
Had it shipped straight from M1st to Lantz so can't wait to see it "in the canvas"!

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:41 pm

This is probably the most accurate photo of the current MFH bag and is Wotalark’s before I add my leatherwork. At lease on my screen anyways. It very close to the army green drab uniforms.