Wrist loop broken.

[MartinL]

The wrist loop on my old 10 foot Morgan is about to come off. There are only a few strands left. I don't really use that loop and naturally it has nothing to do with the proformance. But it is still annoying.

I do have 2 book about whipmaking (Ron Edwards and Morgan) but untieing the knot and rebrading it is not an option with my (lack of) skills.

I just leave it as it is for now.

I am just curious - what would you people do considering it is a Morgan?

[riku1914]

I personally would take the loop off, take the knot off, rebraid the loop and redo everything, as you said you are not going to do

that, I'd send it in to midwest or someone else to have them repair it. If you just take the loop out, the knot will become loose,

and will eventually mess up as it doesn't have the loop taking up space under it.

I don't think they would charge too much to redo all that, it wouldn't take but 30 minutes max, but I'm not speaking for them,

just what I would THINK.

[Marhala]

Yeah. I think you should get the whip repaired, whether you want it with or without the wristloop. In my mind, if you just let the whip deteriorate little by little, it not only affects its appearance, but also it may lead to worse problems which would require more time and money.

Aldo.

[MartinL]

Thank you. I never realized that it could loosen the knot if the part of the wrist loop under the knot gets removed. However, if I had to remove the wrist loop I wouldn't just rip it off.
I don't know why this is happening. I got it on eBay so I don't know how this could happen or what the person did to it. The rest of the whip is fine.

I should have said that I live in Denmark. Sending the whip half across the earth just to repair a simpel wrist loop seemed to much of a deal. Maybee there are someone closer to me (Europe).

Now, I do like the thought of doing my own repair. I wouldn't mind tie a new fall hitch.
A new question. If I had to rebraid a new loop (or buy one) and the knot, would I be able to use the same strands from the knot? I could buy som new but I am thinking about the colour difference. The whip is now dark but new strands a light.

[tomek9210]

Drop the message to Pagey (Whiskyman here). He lives in Austria, so closer than guys from USA or Aussie.

[Marhala]

As Tomek writes, there's Nick Lang in Austria (Whiskyman). There's Giovanni Celeste in Italy. There are other whipmakers in the UK too, but don't remember their names. All of them are quite accomplished and they would gladly make the repair for you.

I didn't quite understand the part on "using the same strands from the knot". The lace for the knot is about 1/4" wide whilst the one for the wristloop is around 5/16", if that's what you mean. And perhaps a good whipmaker could match as close as possible the difference in color. You should discuss that with any of them.

Aldo.

[riku1914]

He meant, would he have to cut a new strand for the knot out of a hide, or could he use the knot strand that he undid it with.

The answer is no, you cannot use the same knot strand, as after the knot was tied, it was trimmed to exactly the size it was to

fit it. You'll need new strands. You can either dye them a darker color, or have whoever does it in a darker leather, maybe whiskey.

Or even cut the strands and let them sit in the sun for a while.

[Marhala]

Oh, Ok. Thanks for the explanation, Riku.

Sometimes I fall short on my English.

Aldo.

[riku1914]

Oh, Ok. Thanks for the explanation, Riku.

Sometimes I fall short on my English.

Aldo.

I can't say as much for my Spanish I took 3 years of it ( 4 coming this year ) and still haven't gotten much out of it

[MartinL]

Yes, that's what I meant about the strands. I am stil not sure what I do. It can't be that difficult to fix it myself. And I can allways send it to somebody who know how to fix it.

[Marhala]

Yes, that's what I meant about the strands. I am stil not sure what I do. It can't be that difficult to fix it myself. And I can allways send it to somebody who know how to fix it.

If you just want to do it, go for it! You won't regret that. If you want a professional fix, then you should ask a whipmaker to do it for you.

Aldo.