Wested's HERO jacket...

[singsingjohnny]

Jacket is nice, much improved, I just hope the same can be said for the customer service. I've emailed about a jacket at least twice in the past and just never heard back...

[Gorak]

Inquired by Email this morning about the thickness of Straited Lamb. Gemmae responded within an hour......thicker for better durability.

[jnicktem]

So I have pretty much decided to order one of these. But before ordering one I would like to see better photos of the shrunken lamb and the crispe lamb.

[Texan Scott]

We may be a few weeks out on that. I don't think anyone has received one yet?

[jnicktem]

I e-mailed Gemma asking if they had any better pictures of the two leathers. We shall see when I get a response.

[Dunross76]

Great jacket, but I must say that TNO, so far, was the only one able to make the jacket look like the Raiders jacket.
Maybe it's my eyes, but when I look at these pics, I see another great Wested jacket, but not exactly what I see in the movie.
I guess it takes Harrison Ford to make any jacket look SA )

[Texan Scott]

You know, I had a TNO Raiders jacket in Nowak goat and was not happy with it. The leather was too thick and it just did not represent what I saw on screen, so I got rid of it and I've not missed it since.

[jnicktem]

I have a TNO Raiders in shrunken lamb. When I get this new Wested Hero version it will be interesting to compare the two.

[Texan Scott]

Indeed. SA, etc. is in the eye of the beholder.

[Texan Scott]

Nick, if you get any better pics of the crisp or shrunken lamb, post it, would you?

[jnicktem]

If they send me any pictures I will be sure to post them up here.

[Dunross76]

My apologies- I was referring to the cut of the jacket, not the hide.

[CM]

Great jacket, but I must say that TNO, so far, was the only one able to make the jacket look like the Raiders jacket.
Maybe it's my eyes, but when I look at these pics, I see another great Wested jacket, but not exactly what I see in the movie.
I guess it takes Harrison Ford to make any jacket look SA )

Huh? You just said the TNO jacket is what you see on screen so the comment about Harrison (although I largely agree) is redundant, isn't it?

[Kevin Anderson]

People can be certain of their own opinions.

[Kevin Anderson]

Not at all, you'll remember I too was skeptical about the 'Hero' pattern in an earlier thread.
I did say however, that Whiskyman's Hero from Wested was the most screen accurate Raiders jacket I'd seen, from any vendor.
Just my opinion, of course.
I'm lucky perhaps in not feeling 'burned'. I only ever ordered one Raiders from Wested, which was promptly returned. All the others
were LC/TODs. Had I purchased several Raiders jackets trying to find one that looked 'right', well, I might feel a little differently
about the new Hero pattern (and it slightly dubious origins).
I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying it's about time they got it right.
On a more positive note, it does look great, and the price can't be beat.

[CM]

Not at all, you'll remember I too was skeptical about the 'Hero' pattern in an earlier thread.
I did say however, that Whiskyman's Hero from Wested was the most screen accurate Raiders jacket I'd seen, from any vendor.
Just my opinion, of course.
I'm lucky perhaps in not feeling 'burned'. I only ever ordered one Raiders from Wested, which was promptly returned. All the others
were LC/TODs. Had I purchased several Raiders jackets trying to find one that looked 'right', well, I might feel a little differently
about the new Hero pattern (and it slightly dubious origins).
I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying it's about time they got it right.
On a more positive note, it does look great, and the price can't be beat.

Well said, Kev.

[Indiana Strones]

I e-mailed Gemma asking if they had any better pictures of the two leathers. We shall see when I get a response.

Good idea. If you receive any pics please post them here! Thanks!

[jnicktem]

It's the weekend now so I guess I won't get a response until Monday.

[The Numenorean]

...this time, it really is the jacket. Did the water treatment last night and have been working to enlarge the sleeves a little.

Hi Tex and fellow Indy maniacs

A quick question from a relative newbie from across the pond so forgive me if i'm being a dumbass. But what is the "water treatment" and how do you do it? I'm assuming its for shaping the jacket to the wearer. Actually thats two questions

Cheers

The Numenorean

[Indiana Dymond]

"The water treatment" can range from wiping down with a hot damp rag,to putting a jacket under the shower (sometimes you getting into the shower with the jacket on),and goes right up to putting it in the washing machine.

All this is designed to do is take shine off the face of the leather,make a jacket look old and wrinkled,and stretch/mold or even shrink the leather if you use very hot water.

[The Numenorean]

"The water treatment" can range from wiping down with a hot damp rag,to putting a jacket under the shower (sometimes you getting into the shower with the jacket on),and goes right up to putting it in the washing machine.

All this is designed to do is take shine off the face of the leather,make a jacket look old and wrinkled,and stretch/mold or even shrink the leather if you use very hot water.

thanks for the advice mate.
Seriously thinking about one of these Wested "Heroes" for my jacket

[Indiana Dymond]

[quotethanks for the advice mate.
Seriously thinking about one of these Wested "Heroes" for my jacket[/quote]


You live in the UK and your thinkig about it

Mate you need to go for it if you have the cash,any other jacket will cost you a bundle in tax and import duty .

[tomek9210]

Size 44, sleeves: 24 1/4", pits: 23"
Back length: 25 1/2"
Collar stand: 1 3/16"
Storm flap: exactly 1 1/2"
Pockets: 7 7/8" high x 6 1/2"
Strap width: 1"
single piece Gussets
Shoulder to Yoke: 3 1/4"
Collar stand to arm seam: 7"
Yoke seam to collar stand: just under 5 1/2"

How wide is waist? So finally Wested makes jacket with 2" of room in the chest! Lovely!

Has anyone ordered Hero in crispe or shrunken lamb?

[Holt]

the jackets are more standard straight cut. meaning not much tapering towards the hem/waist.

[Texan Scott]

Holt is right about the cut.

As to the water treatment, well, that's one of those things that you can honestly get by without, all things considered. I don't know that leather was made to be slam dunked into the great abyss, but it happens, and probably better without, but some like the lived in feel to the jacket right away. It does take the shine off, somewhat, but the best thing to do is to simply wear the jacket, use it and build a few adventures of your own.

[Michaelson]

Michaelson? Is that you? (grin)

Nope, not this time.

Regards! Michaelson

[Texan Scott]

Can't negate the influence of the big dawg.

If we had a bat signal in the forum, it might look like this...

[The Numenorean]

[quotethanks for the advice mate.
Seriously thinking about one of these Wested "Heroes" for my jacket

You live in the UK and your thinkig about it

Mate you need to go for it if you have the cash,any other jacket will cost you a bundle in tax and import duty .[/quote]


hahaha you know what, you're right. It is a no brainer. It was more a question of which Wested to go for... and i think i've found my answer. Thanks...again!

[The Numenorean]

Holt is right about the cut.

As to the water treatment, well, that's one of those things that you can honestly get by without, all things considered. I don't know that leather was made to be slam dunked into the great abyss, but it happens, and probably better without, but some like the lived in feel to the jacket right away. It does take the shine off, somewhat, but the best thing to do is to simply wear the jacket, use it and build a few adventures of your own.

I certainly intend to do that!..Cheers Tex... a valuable thread. For me at least

[jnicktem]

So I just heard back from Gemma about having better pictures of the shrunken lamb and crispe...... they don't.

[IndyBrit]

So I just heard back from Gemma about having better pictures of the shrunken lamb and crispe...... they don't.

Bugger. I wonder if KT would do the honours here? He is close by and a regular around here. I had the pleasure to met him on one visit to the barn.

Just a thought.

[Indiana Strones]

So I just heard back from Gemma about having better pictures of the shrunken lamb and crispe...... they don't.

Welcome to Wested world...

[Texan Scott]

If an example of each of these jackets were made as a display or something, it would be beneficial to see what they look like with the new skins. Looks like one has already been made with shrunken lamb.

[IndyBrit]

So I just heard back from Gemma about having better pictures of the shrunken lamb and crispe...... they don't.

Welcome to Wested world...

That gives me visions of Yul Brunner in full black gun slinger mode coming out of the barn

[RedburnIV]

Beautiful jacket!! But are they really only making sizes 38-44? So us bigger guys are screwed?? Ya know most people I've met comment on my size, being tall and larger than most, and I'd give it all just to fit into a 42 or 40 Raiders jacket...Please help the big guys!! We need gear too!!

[Texan Scott]

Post water treatment:



As you can see, it just needs some hard wear. And it would happen if it wasn't going to be 110f today? I s'pose you could be totally SA and run around with the jacket on, never stopped Indy, but naaa...I'll pass this time, tyvm! Actually this jacket reminds we alot of a TNO that Raider S posted several moons ago, in light weight goatskin, similiar skin.

[Forrest For the Trees]

So I just heard back from Gemma about having better pictures of the shrunken lamb and crispe...... they don't.

LOL. Classic. No pictures for you!

[hovitos loincloth]

If an example of each of these jackets were made as a display or something, it would be beneficial to see what they look like with the new skins. Looks like one has already been made with shrunken lamb.

Yes but why bother when they get better pics of their products (good and bad) on here. The Wested site has always stunk at showing any decent photos of stuff. I only chose my hide after seeing Fifthchambers pre-dis jacket. They may as well have a big disclaimer that just says "DON'T BOTHER! JUST RING PETER!" I love Wested but just wish they were a bit less ramshackle.

[Gorak]

Okay, so, I almost bit the bullet and ordered a hero in the shrunken lamb but after being told it was a thick leather and the heat index was 100 today, I decided that I better just stick with the light weight lambskin. Does anyone know how to order this pattern in a different skin than what is being offered short of calling?
I wonder if I just order a custom job but request the Hero Pattern in the notes section notes would work? They emailed me to confirm my notes for my last Wested so I assume they do look at them.

[Texan Scott]

That should work using notations, thinnest skin available, etc.?

[Gorak]

Awesome, then I will do so tonight! Thanks

[Holt]

Post water treatment:



As you can see, it just needs some hard wear. And it would happen if it wasn't going to be 110f today? I s'pose you could be totally SA and run around with the jacket on, never stopped Indy, but naaa...I'll pass this time, tyvm! Actually this jacket reminds we alot of a TNO that Raider S posted several moons ago, in light weight goatskin, similiar skin.

wow. LC flaps.

[Forrest For the Trees]

Yeah, the flaps are throwing me off.

[Texan Scott]

Here's the real deal. Judge for yourself:

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[Holt]

Here's the real deal. Judge for yourself:

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lol!! yep, the real deal. it looks like the nowak pockets but only the flap corners bent up. bend yours up and I don't think you'll get the exact same look. I think it only can be done with straighter corners. like Nowaks'.

anyways, don't get me wrong. I'm no Nowak groupie but I do like to say my opinion. to me it makes not so much difference anymore then what it used to do. overall, I dig the new wested hero jacket only the flaps looked alittle LC on your jacket. all different opinions right? I'm just sharing mine. other then this. awesome jacket. wear it in good health. I'm getting one

[Indiego Jones]

Here's the real deal. Judge for yourself:

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lol!! yep, the real deal. it looks like the nowak pockets but only the flap corners bent up. bend yours up and I don't think you'll get the exact same look. I think it only can be done with straighter corners. like Nowaks'.

Only flaps on the "Hawaii jacket" have straight corners.
Main Hero (flying wing, raven bar, etc...) => different jacket, different flaps (less straighter corners)

[Forrest For the Trees]

Don't get me wrong, the new Hero jacket out of Wested looks great. But Holt seems right, the pocket flaps look more like those on the LC jacket. I think US Wings really nailed the Raiders pocket flap shape on their latest 30th anniversary jacket.

Regardless, at the end of the day, I don't care that much about screen accuracy, but it is fun to discuss nevertheless.

[Indiego Jones]

Here's the real deal. Judge for yourself:

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lol!! yep, the real deal. it looks like the nowak pockets but only the flap corners bent up. bend yours up and I don't think you'll get the exact same look. I think it only can be done with straighter corners. like Nowaks'.

Only flaps on the "Hawaii jacket" have straight corners.
Main Hero (flying wing, raven bar, etc...) => different jacket, different flaps (less straighter corners)

I'm sorry, in the previous post I should write "IN MY OPINION"
It was rude of me to state something as fact, when it is only a deduction, a result of studying the film and images.
My apologies .-

[Texan Scott]

Lmao!! I think my friend here really likes his jacket. She's a beaut, bud. Wear her well!

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Many thanks! My only knock, if you could call it that, is that the sleeves are a little too tight (for me), but I'm working with this 'ol goat and the tried and true water treatment method to resolve any issues that may be outstanding, as I'm standing out in the field...taking pics, in 100+ degree heat...for you COW mongers!....


Here is a better shot of the pocket, less any angle or image distortion, let's take a look, shall we:

[St. Dumas]

That is no LC flap.