Wested listing on "the Bay"

alphared6 · Post by **alphared6** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:46 am

So I ran across this on "The Bay." Sounds like this jacket is a "second?" Anyone have one of these?

'Indiana Jones' Raiders of Lost Ark' Leather Jacket
by 'Wested Leather'
This special offer comes in soft 'Authentic' brown lambskin
This authentic copy from 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' specifications include two-way pockets, action pleats for arm movement, side vents. Unlike the Standard raiders which has slight modification to make it durable and street wearable this 'film jacket' although equally wearable is more lightweight.
There are no inside leather facings, the body is slimmer and the sleeves more tapered. The zip is a smaller 5 gauge nickel and the action pleat depth is narrower with two piped inside pockets.

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:05 am

I don't think it's a second. I believe that Peter describes this jacket in a way that makes clear what it is (by his standards). The more accurate Raiders pattern is not entirely the most practical, and Peter feels that those mods make it more of a costume piece and less sturdy. Basically, don't expect it to be a rugged adventure jacket. My old Wested met the same specs, and it survived just fine after 3 years of normal wear and no major abuse. Nothing to fear with this one unless you plan on getting it bashed about.

davidd · Post by **davidd** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:23 am

That exact wording is found on the Wested Leather site, describing the "Special Offer Raiders ROLA Authentic Lambskin" jacket:

http://www.wested.com/special-offer-rai ... n-70-p.asp

I guess, technically, this is as "screen accurate" as you can get. Few modifications have been made to render this jacket more durable for daily wear. As we all know, they go through dozens of these jackets during filming. What are seen on screen are "costumes," not real-world outdoor gear. They're designed to create a "look" by draping a certain way, and to allow freedom of movement, and, I suspect, to be less hot under the film lights.

I own a "Special Offer Raiders ROLA Authentic Lambskin" jacket, size 40L, which I purchased from a private seller on "da Bay" a year or so ago. I scoured the Wested site pretty closely before making a bidding decision. I wanted to know what I was getting. I ended up winning it for what I'd consider a "steal." I dunno where all the COW crew were that week! The jacket is in "minty-mint" condition, and came with the Wested "Certificate of Authenticity." It seems well-made, as far as finish and stitching and everything goes, but is comparatively light-weight, weighing much less than my A-2 jacket. I have not worn it much -- in fact, not at all, really -- not because it's not durable, but because it's too "nice" to risk messing up. Also, the leather seems rather thin, so I would have some concerns about "distressing" the jacket. Plus, it's just too darned warm in Hawaii to walk around wearing a leather jacket, no matter how "light weight" that jacket might be!

My "ROLA Authentic Lambskin" is very, very dark. Too dark, in my opinion. Far darker than the photo on the Wested site would indicate for this jacket. Possibly mine is in "dark lambskin," but it was listed as the "authentic brown" when I purchased it. To me it looks more like a motorcycle jacket than anything else. Makes me want to get a Royal Enfield.

A picture would prob'ly be in order, huh? I'm hesitant to post a link, because... uh... in the only photos I have of this jacket, I'm wearing a pointy little Dorfman Pacific hat. But... what the hey:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3429/318 ... 0681_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3576/351 ... b1fa_b.jpg

I've since upgraded to a Fed IV, okay? Which still looks kinda pointy, but that's a whole 'nother story.

Anyway, yeah. Or rather, no, I don't think the jacket in question is a "second."

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:27 am

That description is taken from Wested's custom page as well. it's one of the two Raiders jackets offered on the page, but you have to read both descriptions carefully to know what/which you are ordering. They each have different names too.
I would suggest Wested call them 'Raiders' and 'Street Raiders' but I can only guess what they are doing works fine for them.

So anyway, I doubt it is a second

gwyddion · Post by **gwyddion** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:45 am

Peter does sell OTR jackets on Ebay under the name Wested4U, so if that's the seller, it's just Peter.

Regards, Geert

alphared6 · Post by **alphared6** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:35 pm

Davidd ... you appear to be the only owner of one of these to post. Bottom line it for me, is this jacket worth the over 200.00 dollars it is priced at?

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:38 pm

alphared6 wrote:Davidd ... you appear to be the only owner of one of these to post. Bottom line it for me, is this jacket worth the over 200.00 dollars it is priced at?

Is it a custom or OTR? over $200? Is it from Wested directly?

alphared6 · Post by **alphared6** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:45 pm

No. And yes.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:53 pm

If it is an OTR directly from Wested they are £135.00 before postage £125.00 for a 'special offer. So over $200 is probably about right

davidd · Post by **davidd** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:47 pm

The eBay currency conversion system lists the "American money" price at $208.00.

I got my ROTLA jacket "second-hand" but like brand new (the original owner "outgrew it" around the waistline; it happens to us all, eventually, I suppose) for $125.00 (American dollars, not British pounds). The original owner had it custom made, so claimed his Bay listing, as a size 40L, with only the "screen original" options selected: small nickel-plated zipper, etcetera, as noted at the Wested site.

Is this jacket worth $200.00? The usual response to that is, "it depends on what you're looking for," right? But that's rarely a particularly helpful response. From my point of view, you're getting a jacket styled exactly like the on-screen "costume' jacket. The quality of the detail work - zippers, pleats, pockets - is high. The materials are good... for what they are. That's the caveat: while it may look okay, this is not a jacket that's "built to take it." I have a couple of Willis & Geiger A2 leather jackets, and they are FAR more heavily constructed than the Wested ROTLA jacket. If you're actually planning to wear this jacket while rolling down rocky mountain slopes, hacking your way through jungle underbrush, or even pruning the rosebushes in the back yard, this is probably not the right jacket. The leather is thin, and there's not a lot of interior support from a heavy lining, so I suspect it would be susceptible to snags and tears. Personally... I'm glad I got mine "used but like new" for half the original price.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:06 pm

Wested sell their normal OTR's on ebay as well as their web site. It's the same stock off the same rail.

Forrest For the Trees · Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:24 pm

My "ROLA Authentic Lambskin" is very, very dark. Too dark, in my opinion. Far darker than the photo on the Wested site would indicate for this jacket. Possibly mine is in "dark lambskin," but it was listed as the "authentic brown" when I purchased it. To me it looks more like a motorcycle jacket than anything else. Makes me want to get a Royal Enfield.

Yeah, that doesn't look like authentic brown. Looks more like dark brown to me.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:39 pm

Pretty unlikely, the dark brown lamb is only used for custom orders and fairly rarely at that. The dark brown has a slight purplish hue to it, like a cordovan.

The authentic brown can look anything from milk chocolate in bright sunlight to almost black under artificial light.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:14 pm

The Raiders Standard jacket would be a fine choice if the stitching holds up. It has all the elements that produced the look: slimmer torso & sleeves, no leather facings, gussets, etc.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:06 pm

There is also another 'offering' on Ebay from another co. :

MOD EDIT: PLEASE REFRESH YOURSELF WITH THE RULES OF COW. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS WEEK THAT WE NEED TO POINT YOU TO THE RULES.

http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=9524

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:49 am

Sorry, just trying to help. Apparently there is a new jacket vendor from England advertising on Ebay. Don't know much about their work, though?

gwyddion · Post by **gwyddion** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:58 pm

Texan Scott wrote:Sorry, just trying to help. Apparently there is a new jacket vendor from England advertising on Ebay. Don't know much about their work, though?

What is the name/handle of the vendor?

Regards, Geert

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:07 pm

filmjackets. They have a cartoon-ish avatar.

gwyddion · Post by **gwyddion** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:20 pm

I could only find these guys from the UK: http://myworld.ebay.nl/filmjackets (mods, it is a profile page, but if deemed unsuitable I'll remove the URL) No cartoonish avatar though

Regards, Geert

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:28 pm

...just do a search on ebay: type in indiana jones jacket.

their offering is at the bottom of the page.

gwyddion · Post by **gwyddion** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:49 pm

I think it's the same one

Regards, Geert

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:44 pm

This is a different vendor, and looks alot like the jackets that were marketed under the 'airplane', "Indiana Jones" logo, back in the early 90's. Notice the three piece sleeve.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:50 pm

Texan Scott wrote:This is a different vendor, and looks alot like the jackets that were marketed under the 'airplane', "Indiana Jones" logo, back in the early 90's. Notice the three piece sleeve.

weren't those the jackets with that Logo sold by Disney, made by Cooper? The original 'official' Indy jacket?
There were some running changes to the pattern.
There is one of the type on eBay labelled as a USWings. Early example and it is striated shrunken lamb.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:06 pm

...looks like a copy of one of these jackets, same type of leather. I don't know if the original had a 3 piece sleeve though?

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:17 pm

I don't know either about the sleeve. When I said early example i meant early USWings. Obviously from 'Cooper'
It also has a multi piece back

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