I called Pecard Leather care Company

beaverlid · Post by **beaverlid** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:20 pm

I called them today to inquire on the best product they have for my particulare needs. I have already placed this order so even I get negative feed back the money is already spent.

I bought a Wested ROTLA washed goat. I wanted to break it in a little with some natural distressing, nothing to heavy and then waterproof. Pecards recommendation was their silicone spray product PSP6. He said it would work without darkening the leather or adding a shine to it. Has anybody used this on a similar leather as my wested?

Next product was for my Alden 405's. He recommended the product PLD6. I am hoping it will darken up the leather slightly on my boots. Any pics out there after the use of PLD6 would be great to see.

Beaverlid

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:12 pm

Nope. Who did you talk to, if I may ask.

Sounds interesting....a lot like the old Scotchgard for Leather that we USED to be able to buy, but was taken off the market some years ago.

If it IS the same kind of stuff, it will slightly darken your jacket with initial application, but as it dries, it completely disappears and leaves your jacket looking like it did when you got it.

Keep in mind, this is a surface treatment rather than a 'leather treatment'. It will not penetrate the leather fiber like their standard dressing or 'leather creme'....but it should do the trick.

I used to use the Scotchgard on my Wings 'antique' leather, and it worked fine.

Regards! Michaelson

beaverlid · Post by **beaverlid** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:51 pm

I am not sure who I talked to but the order was placed by Eric Schlag. I ordered the PLD6 cream for my boots. I wonder if I should rub that in and then spray it with the PSP6 also. I want the jacket as weather proof as I can make it.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:55 pm

VERY good. Eric has been a member of COW for years, and is registered as 'Leather_loco'.

It's his FAQ you see at the top of this section.

Regard! Michaelson

beaverlid · Post by **beaverlid** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:09 pm

I looked at that post. I am guessing they gave sound advice then

Thanks Michaelson

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:40 pm

I hope so. He's the VP in charge of R&D there.

Regard! Michaelson

VP · Post by VP » Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:10 am

And I'm the VP in charge here.

JulianK · Post by **JulianK** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:50 am

I'd be curious to hear of the results you achieve with the spray. My washed goat's right sleeve took a soaking up to the elbow and now it looks dried out compared to the rest of the jacket. I was debating which of the multitude of Pecard's products I should use on the sleeve to restore some of the moisture in it. One of my dreads is that it'll get a shine to it! ...I love the matt look of the washed goat!!!

beaverlid · Post by **beaverlid** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:03 am

JulianK wrote:I'd be curious to hear of the results you achieve with the spray. My washed goat's right sleeve took a soaking up to the elbow and now it looks dried out compared to the rest of the jacket. I was debating which of the multitude of Pecard's products I should use on the sleeve to restore some of the moisture in it. One of my dreads is that it'll get a shine to it! ...I love the matt look of the washed goat!!!

I didn't want the shine either and according to Pecards it will not put one once the spray is dry. Michaelson also said that he used a similar spray on a jacket of his with good results. I will let you know how it turns out and post a pic or two if it helps.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:13 am

Pecards standard/jell does not 'put a shine' back on your jacket. You can get a low shine if you give the leather a good long buffing after it soaks in, but it's not a 'polish' type product.

JK, you better put some standard dressing or the 'creme' on your sleeve. This spray will not help what your jacket requires right now.

Personally I'm a 'creme' fan/user myself. Not quite as much beeswax in the product, so less tacky.

Regards! Michaelson

JulianK · Post by **JulianK** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:42 am

Michaelson wrote:Pecards standard/jell does not 'put a shine' back on your jacket. You can get a low shine if you give the leather a good long buffing after it soaks in, but it's not a 'polish' type product.

JK, you better put some standard dressing or the 'creme' on your sleeve. This spray will not help what your jacket requires right now.

Personally I'm a 'creme' fan/user myself. Not quite as much beeswax in the product, so less tacky.

Regards! Michaelson

Hmmmmm, now just to clarify....the 'creme' is the 'jell' ...right??

This stuff?
http://www.pecard.com/mm5/merchant.mvc? ... =specialty

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:37 am

Yep, that's it.

I questioned Eric when I got the first jar, and he agreed it was actually a 'jell', but since they had already printed the labels, they never changed it.

Regard! Michaelson

beaverlid · Post by **beaverlid** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:42 pm

I am glad you put this up. I just ordered me an 8 oz jar.

JulianK · Post by **JulianK** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:26 pm

beaverlid wrote:I am glad you put this up. I just ordered me an 8 oz jar.

You can't go wrong! I've used mine for everything to (obviously) jackets, to belts to gloves to even my wallet when I accidentally washed it! This stuff is gold!

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:54 pm

One more little tip from the "Michaelson" book of personal gear care practices....

If/when you polish your Alden boots, apply some of the creame to the cracks across the front of the boot and ankle where the boot flexes. This will insure that the leather will not crack through with long useage of the boot, as the creme supplies lubrication, (once it soaks in), allowing for the leather fibers to slide past each other as the leather is flexed.

Bottom line, more longevity for the boot.

Regards! Michaelson

Post by **Holt** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:54 pm

what product do you get if you actually want alittle shine to it without having to buff it like you do on the standard pecards?

beaverlid · Post by **beaverlid** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:05 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:what product do you get if you actually want alittle shine to it without having to buff it like you do on the standard pecards?

i CALLED 1-800-467-5056 and told hem what I was trying to achieve. When I didn't describe my wested washed goat texture very good they actually looked it up at wested.com and went from the picture and told me what to buy. So they are very helpful on the phone if you don't get an answer here.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:49 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:what product do you get if you actually want alittle shine to it without having to buff it like you do on the standard pecards?

Letaps is my personal choice, Eric....when I can get hold of it. It's not available in the U. S., but YOU can get it through Wested Leather.

Regard! Michaelson

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:20 pm

Michaelson wrote:One more little tip from the "Michaelson" book of personal gear care practices....

...that's an excerpt from chapter 11, I think?

One question I have is...in theory, leather goods merchants (Wilson's) recommend not covering the jacket with plastic, etc., because they claim that due to the fact that leather is a natural hide and should be allowed to breathe. Is Scotchguard and other similiar products a type of sealant?

Post by **Michaelson** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:19 pm

They are products to help leather resist water penetration, but are not a 'sealant'.

There is a product like that you can find in sporting good sections to seal canvas tents and the like that is a true sealant...but NEVER use that on leather.

The comment regarding plastic being a 'no-no' is absolutely true. Actually ALL leather sellers will tell you that. NEVER put leather in plastic of any kind for storage. Condensation can form, and the thread can actually rot.

Regards! Michaelson

Lazy-8 · Post by **Lazy-8** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:06 am

beaverlid wrote:I called them today to inquire on the best product they have for my particulare needs. I have already placed this order so even I get negative feed back the money is already spent.

I bought a Wested ROTLA washed goat. I wanted to break it in a little with some natural distressing, nothing to heavy and then waterproof. Pecards recommendation was their silicone spray product PSP6. He said it would work without darkening the leather or adding a shine to it. Has anybody used this on a similar leather as my wested?

Next product was for my Alden 405's. He recommended the product PLD6. I am hoping it will darken up the leather slightly on my boots. Any pics out there after the use of PLD6 would be great to see.

Beaverlid

Thanks. This was just the information that I was looking for.

beaverlid · Post by **beaverlid** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:36 pm

I received the two seperate shipments I ordered from Pecards. As a bonus they sent me a sample of different products in each shipment. THey are generous samples I might add. One sample looks like an oil can and is called shoe oil and the other looks like a small bottle of lotion called leather lotion.

I applied the the leather dressing to my Aldens a little shoe oil around the stitching and the boots actually darkened up just a little.

I have to grade these guys at Pecards at an A + ALL THE WAY. They provided excellent customer service on the telephone and went the extra mile to go and look at my wested jacket online so they could suggest the best product for washed goat. The shipping was reasonable and got to my doorstep without incident in a very favorable amount of time and they gave very generous samples of their other products for me to try. I can assure you I will be a repeat customer. I highly recommend this company for those of you who don't already use them.

I will post the results I get on my Wested when I am done applying the gel. I figured that was going to be time consuming so I am saving it for the weekend. Any suggestions on how I should apply the gel to the coat? I was thinking a soft cloth but that is going to take a while. I wonder if I could apply it with a soft camel hair shoe polish brush? If anyone has suggestions feel free to throw them out.

Beaverlid

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:50 pm

Bare hand is the best way to apply Pecards jell or standard dressing. One step better, surgical gloves. Easier clean up...but bare hand is the best applicator.

It will take you no more than 10 to 15 minutes, and that's for the entire jacket. Just rub it on, then hang in a warm location overnight to soak in. It's as easy as that.

You'll also be surprised at how soft you hands will be after you wash up.

Regards! Michaelson

beaverlid · Post by **beaverlid** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:01 pm

Bare hands it is then.

I noticed from the first day I got it that the jacket had a really dry feel to it. I am guessing it comes from however they "WASH" the leather. I am sure this will solve that problem.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:36 am

Yes, it will.

Bare hand application is best too as you can feel the areas you've missed on the jacket, as well as what areas may need more, or less product application.

Regards! Michaelson

JulianK · Post by **JulianK** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:11 am

I will post the results I get on my Wested when I am done applying the gel.

Please do. Take a pic as well if you can. I'm in the same boat as you but been just too darn busy (read:lazy) to do this yet.

beaverlid · Post by **beaverlid** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:37 am

I will definately post pics and a good review.

beaverlid · Post by **beaverlid** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:04 pm

I have an 8 plait kangaroo hide Brian Nemeth whip that is made in Australia. I wonder if the Pecards would be a good leather treatment for this. I am sure it would be good for the leather but with it being a very tight braid I wonder if it would not be the right treatment for it. Anybody use Pecards products on their whips?

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:13 pm

That's where we first learned about Pecards....Morgan whips. Mr. Morgan sends a small tub of standard Pecards with each and every one one of his whips.

I got my first sample from our friend whipwarrior 'back in the day', and have never looked back.

So, the answer is a resounding 'yes'!

Regards !Michaelson

beaverlid · Post by **beaverlid** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:24 pm

Very good, then. I looks like I have a jacket and a whip to treat this weekend.

VP · Post by VP » Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:44 pm

Yeah I use Pecards on my Strain, Letap on my Westeds.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:56 pm

...also a perfect combination of leather treatments!

Regards !Michaelson

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