Last Crusade jacket thread

Post by **Holt** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:29 pm

hehehe

I knew you came with that

its all fun....

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:15 pm

Kyle

orb · Post by **orb** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:01 am

Does anybody know the actual sleeve length of the Chicago/Smithsonian jackets?
Could it be the same as HF CS Jacket? 26 Inch?

Regards

orb

Stefan Hills · Post by **Stefan Hills** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:19 pm

How much does the new TN LC jacket cost?
Stefan

Yojimbo Jones · Post by **Yojimbo Jones** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:49 am

Stefan Hills wrote:How much does the new TN LC jacket cost?
Stefan

$750(?)

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:41 am

I called Tony the other day to see about the turnaround time etc. When I asked him the price I am sure he said $950. I know that members here have paid $750 for that jacket and hope that Tony was thinking of another jacket. I would love some clarification on this. I emailed him regarding this difference between what members have said they paid and what he says the price is, but have not heard back from him.

I am hoping I misheard him

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:51 am

Nick that sounds like he quoted for the Raider.
I know he has been very busy lately. He may have misunderstood you?

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:21 am

I hope so - he emailed me late last night to say he will call me today to go over the details. Hopefully I will have some clarification.

orb · Post by **orb** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:37 pm

I just talked with Tony.
So the price for the LC Cowhide has increased.
He didn't know that the leather would be quite more expensive. He researched it and that was when Chris maybe some other and me have already placed the order for the LC jacket. He said that he made an commitment to those people and so the price won't be increased for people who have already paid the 750usd for it.
But I'm quite sure if you ask for a LC jacket with the Indy4 Cowhide or any other cheaper leather? like goat.. the price will be 750usd. It's just because of the premium Italian Cowhide...
Sorry folks.

Regards

orb

Post by **Holt** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:05 pm

RCSignals wrote:so the question is: Is the LC jacket zipper really 'golden' or just appear to be under certain conditions?

tell me, what color do you see when you look at the zipper? (yes Im back on the zipper)

silver or gold brass?

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:51 pm

So is the LC in the Italian cowhide in fact $950?

And if that's too expensive for some folks (I'm not sure I could take the plunge again

), I'll restate my assertion that the cowhide Indy G used for his Raiders would make a heck of an LC jacket.

Dutch_jones · Post by **Dutch_jones** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:36 am

Diffferent jackets in the movie.
The jacket with the cotton lining seems to have a silver zipper:

The one used most through out the movie has a brass one:

SO I think the promo shots had a silver zip and cotton lining.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:46 am

Indiana Holt wrote:
RCSignals wrote:so the question is: Is the LC jacket zipper really 'golden' or just appear to be under certain conditions?

tell me, what color do you see when you look at the zipper? (yes Im back on the zipper)

silver or gold brass?

I really can't tell from that picture. It could be 'gold-ish' or it could be nickel.
I was told the CS jacket has a brass zipper because that is what Bernie wanted, not the silver. I think the jacket that as used to develop the CS from had a silver/nickel zipper. What hasn't been confirmed is if the jacket was in fact the LC from the Smithsonian.
It doesn't bother me either way if the LC has a brass or silver zipper, but I do lean to the nickel. Do you know which is in fact correct?

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:48 am

Dutch_jones wrote:Diffferent jackets in the movie.
The jacket with the cotton lining seems to have a silver zipper:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g183/ ... ture12.png
The one used most through out the movie has a brass one:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g183/ ... ture32.png

SO I think the promo shots had a silver zip and cotton lining.

Did you miss where Holt said the LC did not have a cotton lining at all?

Dutch_jones · Post by **Dutch_jones** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:34 am

RCSignals wrote:
Dutch_jones wrote:Diffferent jackets in the movie.
The jacket with the cotton lining seems to have a silver zipper:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g183/ ... ture12.png
The one used most through out the movie has a brass one:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g183/ ... ture32.png

SO I think the promo shots had a silver zip and cotton lining.
Did you miss where Holt said the LC did not have a cotton lining at all?

No I did not miss it, but I have seen Hi resolution pictures of a cotton lining and it differes heavily from the dragon .... forgot the name lining. But like i said its the jacket from the promo shoot with connery where harrison sits below a standing Connery.

Post by **Holt** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:03 am

yeah...... that jacket there Dutch is the smithsonian jacket. in other words. no cotton lining and golden zipp.

but remember, Im not saying that all jackets had this silk lining. it could be that maby some production or stunt jackets had cotton. I dont know, I wasnt there....but Im pretty sure that the smithsonian jacket had this silk lining.

Dutch_jones · Post by **Dutch_jones** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:30 am

I don't

can't see the lining in the smitsonian jacket but to my eyes the one in the picture I posted DOES not look like silk at all. in another picture it just looks like there is no lining at all, just raw leather on the inside.

jones the whip · Post by **jones the whip** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:47 am

Here are a couple of additions to your thread.
The specs of this jacket have been discussed previously, but you may find the collar measurements interesting.

From collarstand seam to flap edge - 2 3/4". From collarstand seam to flap point - 3 1/4".

The buckle strap is 3" from the bottom of the jacket (IMO it should be 4")

The pocket is 8" from piped edge to bottom and 6" wide. It is 3.2" from piped edge to pocket flap point.

Cheers,
JTW.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:45 pm

That's a nice looking LC JTW. How old is it?

Post by **Holt** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:02 pm

Dutch_jones wrote:I don't can't see the lining in the smitsonian jacket but to my eyes the one in the picture I posted DOES not look like silk at all. in another picture it just looks like there is no lining at all, just raw leather on the inside.

okay Dutch. one more final try to let you see the shiny lining in the smithsonian jacket.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:15 pm

What colour is the lining of the LC jacket? Some photos appear dark brown, others more black.

Post by **Holt** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:18 pm

it really looks dark brown when I take a look at my LC archive jacket pictures, but appears to look black in some scenes.

its all b/c the different ligthing.

orb · Post by **orb** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:23 pm

Hey Holt what lining Tony offers is closer to the lining used in the film? Raiders or CS?
Because I don't want a maybe SA satin lining where I sweat my ### off in the warmer days of the year.

Regards

orb

Post by **Holt** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:29 pm

How could I know?..

I have not felt the TN raiders lining or seen it up close nor the CS....

sometimes I really feel that maby people take my opinions for answers...... dont do that.

orb · Post by **orb** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:41 pm

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/7426-2p.jpg

CS left, Raiders on the Right.

For me both linings are fine for a LC. But half, half won't be the way to go

Regards

orb

jones the whip · Post by **jones the whip** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:11 pm

RCSignals wrote:That's a nice looking LC JTW. How old is it?

That jacket is 14 months old.
It has undergone a series of distressing, renovating, re-distressing etc...

not to mention colour changing with multiple applications of leather dressing, leather dye and furniture polish.
Cheers,
JTW.

Post by **Holt** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:18 pm

the jacket looks great but I know your not that fond of the lamb leather for a LC JTW.

if you ever decide to get another LC in the future, may i recommend the soft goat. IMO it has the thick lambskin drape that the LC jacket should have. pluss its a tad darker then the auth. br.

love that hide. Im getting one next week.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:48 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:........ Im getting one next week.

So we finally get to see it next week?

Post by **Holt** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:01 pm

well, Im ordering one.. hopefully ill get in in the beginning of the week after that.

why? are you curious about seeing it?

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:49 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:well, Im ordering one.. hopefully ill get in in the beginning of the week after that.

why? are you curious about seeing it?

We all are

Post by **Holt** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:36 am

well. I'll see if I will post pictures when I get it.

it all depends if Im in the right mood

Dutch_jones · Post by **Dutch_jones** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:39 am

Indiana Holt wrote:well, Im ordering one.. hopefully ill get in in the beginning of the week after that.

why? are you curious about seeing it?

Where are you ordering one if I might ask?

Post by **Holt** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:40 am

it will be from the original maker.

who else offers the new soft goat?

Dutch_jones · Post by **Dutch_jones** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:43 am

Indiana Holt wrote:it will be from the original maker

GOOOD!!! I have Enourmous fate that he will make a dead on accurate LC now

call it a hunch

I would order one myself if I had the money but sadly not yet!

Be prepared to wait a little longer though, they seem to be really busy at the moment, I ordered a custom jacket a few weeks ago.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:45 am

I dont wait.

jones the whip · Post by **jones the whip** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:47 am

Indiana Holt wrote:the jacket looks great but I know your not that fond of the lamb leather for a LC JTW.

if you ever decide to get another LC in the future, may i recommend the soft goat.

I know what you mean, Satipo and I were discussing this yesterday when we met to attend the Star Wars concert at the o2.
I wore my jacket and explained to Satipo that I was 90% happy with it.
Although we both agreed that the design, specs and fit are very satisfactory, the lightness in weight of this jacket does'nt befit LC SA. There is no problem with the thickness of the Lamb - only the weight.
Like yourself Holt, Satipo touched on the idea of goat, also of horse hide.
The ambition is to find something with a thin skin like that of lamb but with the heavier feel of a hide.
JTW.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:51 am

well then like I said, the soft goat would be perfet.

it feels heavier but it is just as thin as lamb, maby a hair thicker. trust me it is awesome!

PSBIndy · Post by **PSBIndy** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:24 am

soft goat = washed goat?

Dutch_jones · Post by **Dutch_jones** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:25 am

PSBIndy wrote:soft goat = washed goat?

I believe softgoat is something else.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:17 pm

RCSignals wrote: It doesn't bother me either way if the LC has a brass or silver zipper, but I do lean to the nickel. Do you know which is in fact correct?

if the LC jacket had a nickel zipper then how can it look brass thru out the whole movie when caugth under different sets of lightning. Outside, inside, archive pictures. promo pictures.. etc.etc. I mean, you clearly can see the original color of the zipp in raiders and temple. why? becasue they used a silver colored zipper. In LC they used a brass zipp.

yeah,yeah,yeah... I know. some people say its the lighting.. but his strap buckle doesnt show of as brass does it? they are under the same lighting.

orb · Post by **orb** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:52 pm

I love when it goes into details...
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/7426-2o.jpg
Picture of the chicago jacket you can see a bit of the zipper pull by the collar. Looks nickel to me.
and
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/7426-23.jpg
a picture of a scene in the castle. Looks like nickel.
Sry for the bad quality. Maybe you can make a better screenshot of that scene.
IMO the zipper could be brass but the zipper pull was a nickel for sure.

Regards

orb

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:04 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:well. I'll see if I will post pictures when I get it.

it all depends if Im in the right mood

OK Sally, We hope you are in the right mood

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:08 pm

Dutch_jones wrote: GOOOD!!! I have Enourmous fate that he will make a dead on accurate LC now call it a hunch I would order one myself if I had the money but sadly not yet!
.

Enormous fate ?

But of course it will be accurate, it will be a Holt LC

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:11 pm

orb wrote:I love when it goes into details...
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/7426-2o.jpg
Picture of the chicago jacket you can see a bit of the zipper pull by the collar. Looks nickel to me.
and
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/7426-23.jpg
a picture of a scene in the castle. Looks like nickel.
Sry for the bad quality. Maybe you can make a better screenshot of that scene.
IMO the zipper could be brass but the zipper pull was a nickel for sure.

Regards

orb

Is the end f the zipper pull there 'Bell shaped' ?

Post by **Holt** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:28 pm

orb wrote:I love when it goes into details...
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/7426-2o.jpg
Picture of the chicago jacket you can see a bit of the zipper pull by the collar. Looks nickel to me.

Regards

orb

no, no, no man, do NOT believe what you are seeing here. you can barely see that tiny,tiny little top of the zipper that sticks out from the collar.....this IS missleading.

I am 100% sure that this picture was taken with a flash. dont you think that the tiny top of the zipper reflects the flash from the camera making the zipper look silver?

Yojimbo Jones · Post by **Yojimbo Jones** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:31 pm

Falsh use there highly unlikely. I think its a silver pull.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:35 pm

and the castle jacket looks to have a brass zipper to me.

Han Jones · Post by **Han Jones** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:38 pm

Tony thinks it is silver as well but I wanted brass.

orb · Post by **orb** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:38 pm

Maybe. But just watch the complete Castle scene till this scene:
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/7426-24.jpg
It's a nickel zip for sure. When Indy and his father are bound sitting in this fake chimney.
Even when the fire starts you can clearly see it's a nickel.

Regards

orb

Post by **Holt** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:41 pm

Yojimbo Jones wrote:Falsh use there highly unlikely. I think its a silver pull.

why is that highly unlikely? you can see the flash at the top of the glass window. stand in front of a window and you will have the same effect.

okay, I am not saying that the chicago jacket doesnt have a silver zipp. how can I say it has brass zipp when I dont see it? it could have a pink zipp for all I care.... But I am not discussing about that jacket. that chicago jacket is not so much of any interest to me since I dont know if its screen used or not.

I am talking about the smithsonian jacket and Fords hero jacket. both of those two have brass zipper. I can not understand how people keep on doubting this when it is right in front of their eyes. you only have to watch LC and its there.