oh, the pain!

Gater · Post by **Gater** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:11 pm

Tomorrow I am participating in a big Geocache competition. Basically, there are a few hundred caches hidden throughout the city and surrounding areas, and everybody has 24 hrs to find as many as possible. Kinda like a scavenger hunt, but with billion dollar satellites. Anyhoo, since my Wested pre-d cow and Fed D are my 'trademark' in the local geocache community, I decided that it was time to Pecards the ol' girl, to make sure that all of the abuse she takes tomorrow won't hurt too much. Trudging thru caves, forests and the muck can be common-place for geocaching. It took over an hour and my fingers are CRAMPED! But I took a mid-dressing pic to show the colour difference. I don't much like how light the cowhide is, but the Pecards darkens it up nicely.

Kaplan · Post by **Kaplan** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:29 pm

looks nice! Does the shine go away after you wipe off the excess? Or are you stuck with it for a while?

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:35 pm

Just curious, Gater...why are your fingers cramped? As advised by David Morgan years ago, I apply mine bare handed using the flat of my palm to rub the Pecards into the leather, and once rubbed in and allowed to soak in, I buff it off with an old clean cotton tee shirt.

Finger cramps?

Interesting.

It does give the old jacket that nice rich mahogny color, doesn't it?

High regards! Michaelson

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:41 pm

Fellas, can any of you remind me where I can buy pecard's online?
www.pecard.com is down and I can't find anything...

(I used some product by timberland but that's another story I will tell in the distressing gear section)

brgds,
Platon

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:42 pm

It works for me, and from your link.

Regards! Michaelson

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:04 pm

If you take a look at the treated jacket of _'s on the main IG page, THAT'S what a pre-distressed cowhide jacket looks like after a complete Pecarding and buffing.....and it holds for quite a while too.

Regards! Michaelson

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:22 pm

Michaelson

Oh yeah, it works now thanks man. (I tried several times before and the page wouldn't open)

So which is the right product again?
The Antique/Restoration Dressing?

Please give me some light.

brgds,
Platon

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:27 pm

Go to the top of this section and click on the stickied post by Leather_Loco of Pecards. Click on HIS link at the bottom of his post and follow the product suggestions in his write up for Indyfans on each item of leather gear.

He's the VP for research of Pecards, and a member of this forum.

Regards! Michaelson

Gater · Post by **Gater** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:29 pm

Michaelson,

I have not heard of the bare-hands approach...I use a special lambskin chamois designed buffing cars without scratching. I use one half for Westeds and half for my DM.

I fold the chamois into a corner, then apply the Pecards in small doses, and work it in well, then buff off the excess. Hence, finger cramps.

By using th bare hands method, for how long do you stink like pecards??

I will say that after I finished and hung it to dry, it was a lot heavier than it was before I started!

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:35 pm

Ah, I see.

Well, I, too, started out that way when I got my first container of Pecards, but thought there HAD to be a better way. I called Mr. Morgan and asked HIM if that was the way to do it. He actually laughed in my ear, and asked ME 'WHY?!' He then told me to just scoop a small amount out with my fingers and just rub it in with my bare hands.

That's what I've done ever since. You can actually feel what areas of your jacket need more Pecards that others as you can feel what's going on in the bare hand application. It's REAL fun to get off your hands too, but if you use Lava soap, or like product, it comes right off....and actually leaves you hands in nice shape too!

Stink of Pecards? I have never detected any odor, so that's not a question I can answer, and after washing up, there's no odor what so ever.

:

You'll also be able to completely treat your jacket in less than 15 minutes. I know....that's all it has ever taken me, but I've applied a LOT of Pecards on jackets over the years now. (grins)

Regards! Michaelson

Gater · Post by **Gater** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:38 pm

well, I was also going to do my lambskin today, but changed my mind. Maybe when I go to do it next week, I'll give this a try.

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:43 pm

Go easy, though. You'll find out that you can pick up a LOT more Pecards in your bare hand than when using a cloth, and you could end up really saturating a jacket, and have a LOT of buffing to do after a few days to remove the excess.

Did I ever do that before? Who, ME? Do something like THAT? WHY, uh, well...........maybe.

Regards! Michaelson

VP · Post by VP » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:01 pm

Michaelson wrote:He's the VP for research of Pecards

I thought he's the Michaelson for research of Pecards.

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:05 pm

Well said, VP....well said.

High regards! Michaelson

(Of course, in this case VP stands for vice president....but then you knew that.

)

Gater · Post by **Gater** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:11 pm

Hey VP, you forgot to post a link to another thread indicating Michaelson's status as Pecards researcher.

VP · Post by VP » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:14 pm

When I search for Michaelson's posts in the Gear Care & Distressing table that have the word pecard in them, I get 117 results. No point in posting 'em all.

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:22 pm

I TOLD you guys I was windy. That's also not counting the ones that have been deleted over the years, VP!

(117 posts? I KNEW I should have asked Eric for commissions.

)

Regards! Michaelson

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:49 pm

Michaelson wrote:You can actually feel what areas of your jacket need more Pecards that others as you can feel what's going on in the bare hand application. It's REAL fun to get off your hands too, but if you use Lava soap, or like product, it comes right off....and actually leaves you hands in nice shape too!

Regards! Michaelson

I also like the way water beads up on my hands like a freshly waxed car.

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:51 pm

Indiana Gater wrote:well, I was also going to do my lambskin today, but changed my mind. Maybe when I go to do it next week, I'll give this a try.

I thought you were supposed to use Pecards Lotion on lambskin and not regular Pecards.

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:56 pm

That's been the best results, as lambskin has such tight pores and grain, it doesn't soak in as easily....BUT, that said, I have recently had good luck with really LIGHT applications of standard Pecards on lambskin (specifically an FS lambskin A-2)...and I MEAN light....and it's worked ok.

Like I said, go easy! To heavy on lambskin, and you're in for a REALLY long clean up, if it will clean up at all.

Regards! Michaelson

Gater · Post by **Gater** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:20 pm

good to know! I'm glad I didn't try it, after all. I do have lotion and cream for leather, so maybe I'll give it a go, instead.

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:23 pm

Yeah, and I just hate when someone wears a jacket that looks tacky.

That is a double entendre that only a true Pecards connoisseur will understand.

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:23 pm

Bufflehead Jones wrote:
Michaelson wrote:You can actually feel what areas of your jacket need more Pecards that others as you can feel what's going on in the bare hand application. It's REAL fun to get off your hands too, but if you use Lava soap, or like product, it comes right off....and actually leaves you hands in nice shape too!

Regards! Michaelson
I also like the way water beads up on my hands like a freshly waxed car.

Darn...should have used that before changing diapers, then. (Erk.)

Gater, at first I thought you were going to say that picture showed as far as you got before running out of pecards, and now you were going to have to LEAVE YOUR TRADEMARK JACKET BEHIND or go as 'Two-Tone Jones'.

Now THERE'S a look for the undecided...one half distressed, one half pristine...

Gater · Post by **Gater** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:53 pm

If it came to that Jerry, I would have used the lambskin, but I try to keep the cowhide for 'adventures' and the lambskin for a 'nice' jacket.

The back of the cow has a few nice scratches from trees and bushwacking, but they don't come out well on film.

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:03 pm

Indiana Jerry wrote:Gater, at first I thought you were going to say that picture showed as far as you got before running out of pecards, and now you were going to have to LEAVE YOUR TRADEMARK JACKET BEHIND or go as 'Two-Tone Jones'.

'Two-Tone Jones'

HAHAHA! Thats the funniest thing I've heard in a while!

astroboy · Post by **astroboy** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:17 am

Amount of time the Pecards holds would be dependengt on the activity and weather conditions?...

Gater · Post by **Gater** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:55 pm

well, I think the effort was worth it all. This is a pic, pre-treated, taken with a flash. It is really light brown, and not too Indy-esque

Then yesterday, in sunlight, with flash, you can see how much darker the Picards makes the leather. MUCH better!