Giovanni Celeste "Little Raider" Whip

F-N-S · Post by **F-N-S** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:02 am

Hi all!

Just wanted to showoff the Giovanni Celeste "Little Raider" whip he made for me. It's 6plait 8ft cowhide in natural tan.
I think he's done great work!

The weather in germany is too rainy to crack it right now but as soon as it gets better i will go out and try it

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:40 am

hey, it looks good. congrats and thanks for sharing.

Post by **BullWhipBorton** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:44 am

Very nice, thanks for sharing. Enjoy and crack it in good health.

Dan

whiskyman · Post by **whiskyman** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:51 am

It's certainly got a Raiders look to it. Let us know how you get on with it.

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:51 am

Looks like another amazing Giovanni whip

Fantastic pics my friend

enjoy it

I'm curious to see it in sunlight when possible

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:41 am

A very nice whip, very tight braid. Congratulations! Enjoy it.

Indiana_Tom · Post by **Indiana_Tom** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:45 am

FNS, like I said in another forum before: Very nice whip! Looks good!

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I don't want to open another new thread. Just wanted to show my 10ft. Raiders whip, also from Giovanni:

Regards,

Tom

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:24 pm

Stunning

Wow, 10ft whips are really thick or is just an impression?
Your whip is amazing too Tom!

Since yours it's a Raiders (not a 6 plait) and you are, I think, the third (me included) to post pictures of a Giovanni Celeste whip I think it would be of common interest on this board if you open a new thread for your beauty

What colour did you ask for, Tom?

VP · Post by VP » Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:03 pm

Anyone want to compare the IOAB and the Little Raiders?

Indiana_Tom · Post by **Indiana_Tom** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:23 pm

erri_wan wrote:What colour did you ask for, Tom?

Erri, thanks for the compliments. It's a really great whip I have to admit. I didn't order a special color, I just wanted to have it a bit darker and Giovanni sent me a photo of a calfskin. So I chose it.

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:51 pm

Indiana_Tom wrote: I didn't order a special color, I just wanted to have it a bit darker and Giovanni sent me a photo of a calfskin. So I chose it.

Looks very nice Tom

VP wrote:Anyone want to compare the IOAB and the Little Raiders?

As soon as somebody buy both I think

Basically the IOAB is 4 plait and the Little Raiders is 6 plait and the prices:
IOAB 8ft - $100
LR 8ft - $96-97

a part from these differences I've seen they are both very well crafted

winrichwhips · Post by **winrichwhips** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:32 pm

Based on the pics, I would guess that the IOAB has a bigger diameter and is maybe a little heavier.

-Adam

winrichwhips · Post by **winrichwhips** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:39 pm

Yeah, what is the diameter of the 'Little Raider's' whip?

The IOAB bullwhips tend to be about and inch in diameter right at the transition between the handle and the thong. That's measuring the diameter of the braid, not the ring knot.

-Adam

VP · Post by VP » Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:31 am

What's up with those huge turks head knots, btw? They look a bit weird.

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:31 am

They look straight sided rather than curved/tapered to me. Interesting look I think.

They both look like very nice whips guys.

Regards,
Swindiana

F-N-S · Post by **F-N-S** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:47 pm

winrichwhips wrote:Yeah, what is the diameter of the 'Little Raider's' whip?

The IOAB bullwhips tend to be about and inch in diameter right at the transition between the handle and the thong. That's measuring the diameter of the braid, not the ring knot.

-Adam

It's about 22mm at this position.

Indiana_Tom · Post by **Indiana_Tom** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:52 pm

VP wrote:What's up with those huge turks head knots, btw? They look a bit weird.

They're an exact copy of Morgan's 80's style whip.

winrichwhips · Post by **winrichwhips** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:23 pm

Then the 'Little Raiders' is bigger than I thought. I'd have to guess that at those prices (and diameter) it must be made from cowhide. If it were as small as I originally thought it was, I thought it might have been made from kangaroo. I suppose I can check Giovanni's website to find out.

As far as accuracy in replicating a Morgan, it's about as close as an IOAB whip is. I remember one member of COW posting that the IOAB is not screen accurate ( I never said it was) but for the price it's pretty close. The 'Little Raider's' whip is in the same position.

Does anybody know if Giovanni is making whips full time, or is it only part-time for him right now?

-Adam

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:26 pm

I think Giovanni will come in soon to talk for himself... anyway it's not his main job. He's a lawyer as you can read in his profile

F-N-S · Post by **F-N-S** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:46 pm

Here is a picture of my whip in bright daylight

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giovanniceleste · Post by **giovanniceleste** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:27 am

Finally I have time to answer to your questions. First of all I choose the name of Little Raiders because it has half the number of plaits of the Raiders bullwhip (which is 12 plait). On both the whips (raiders and little)my wrist loop is six flat plait as on the morgan whips. The turk head knot is more bulbous like the original screen used bullwhips which are also on the main website
Morgan whip

F-N-S whip

morgan whip

FNS whip

The leather used is not cowhide but calfskin.
Best Regards,
Giò

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:48 am

If not 100%... very close, in my opinion

VP · Post by VP » Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:38 am

The first one looks like he's talking to a cell phone.

Post by **BullWhipBorton** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:17 am

The first one looks like he's talking to a cell phone.

"Can you hear me now?"

BTW great screan captures, thats more then likely one of the "stunt" whips used, its a bit differnt looking then the standard Morgan Bullwhips.

Dan

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:30 am

...but unfortunately also the only clear scene that I have found about the whip handle. The Hero's whip has a bigger end knot (whatever it's called

) and I think Giovanni's one is accurate at least from what I can see on my whip which is on my desk right now

BTW, F-N-S, have you cracked it yet?

:D