Just Received My IOAB Whip

Prof. Ed · Post by **Prof. Ed** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:59 am

Hi all,

The IOAB whip is a very sturdy and handsome piece of workmanship. Mine came out in a medium brown color. I haven't tried it yet, but I'm impressed with it.
Adam makes fine whips, especially for an academic with a backround in math and physics!

If you are on a buget, like me. Then I think this whip would definitely fill your needs.

Best regards,

Prof. Ed

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:57 am

Maybe it's the math and physics that does it?

You'll discover that the IOAB is great! Trust me.

Regards,
Swindiana

Indy_Railok · Post by **Indy_Railok** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:43 pm

Swindy has right, you know..

Ed-Man, i got a IOAB of my own. And i love it! Well, i can't use it right now, (Too much snow

) but it's great to use!

Canyon · Post by **Canyon** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:13 pm

Congrats, Prof!

Have you any pictures?

Prof. Ed · Post by **Prof. Ed** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:20 pm

Canyon wrote:Congrats, Prof!

Have you any pictures?

Sorry, no pictures yet

My wife takes them and uploads them in spurts!

I'm "Computer Challenged" in this area

I didn't realize how heavy and greasy a whip is. The Ol' prof. will get another hernia and stain his Wested trousers I'm afraid

Regards,

Prof. Ed aka Zeyda tonight

winrichwhips · Post by **winrichwhips** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:28 pm

Hi Ed,

The grease should dry up over time. I'm not totally sure, but I don't think there's enough grease left on it to really stain clothing. I guess it's a good thing I made your IOAB lighter than usual, I'd say it's about the same weight as a kangaroo whip. I'd hate to think what you'd say about it if I had made it the usual weight.

-Adam

Prof. Ed · Post by **Prof. Ed** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:32 pm

winrichwhips wrote:Hi Ed,

The grease should dry up over time. I'm not totally sure, but I don't think there's enough grease left on it to really stain clothing. I guess it's a good thing I made your IOAB lighter than usual, I'd say it's about the same weight as a kangaroo whip. I'd hate to think what you'd say about it if I had made it the usual weight.

-Adam

Adam,

I love the whip. Remember, my whip before was a toy. I didn't know what to expect.
As you saw above, I gave a recommendation. I'm glad you made a lighter whip for me, though.

Take care,

Prof. Ed

thefish · Post by **thefish** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:05 pm

Yeah, I got to handle a couple of the NEW design, (unless there's a newer one now, Adam,) of the IOAB whips this past August, and it was SOOOOOOOOO much lighter than the black IOAB Adam made for a buddy of mine about a year ago. Texas-styled fall and shot loaded.

The new ones with the leather core are far lighter and easier to throw than the first ones.

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:36 pm

I've got an older one...but I eat all my spinach, so I guess I'll be alright.

(No fears, Adam, I still love my IOAB! It's that old whiskey one, one of your first few, and you should see the colors now!

)

Prof. Ed, I only have two quick pieces of advice - protect yourself, and protect your whip.

As for protecting yourself, if you really didn't get to crack your toy whip much before, this means at least wearing some headgear when you learn - that means trying anything new for the first time. I've been doing this a year, and I tried something new last week...and tagged my ear. Owie! Forgot rule #1...protect yourself. Sleeves and long pants aren't such a bad idea, either, and Sergei can tell you why you should even consider wearing eye protection at first. (We don't get spare eyeballs, and it's too easy to break one while first learning.)

Second is protecting that whip. Try not to crack it on unforgiving surfaces, like stone, driveways, cement (erk), roads (argh), and worst - SAND (aaaiiieee!). Keep in mind how well those things can distress a jacket if you fall, now keep in mind the whip is made of the same stuff. Sand is a different kind of bad...you'll never get all the sand OUT of a whip, and cracking it with sand inside the strands is like having little pieces of glass in there - cutting the strands as you crack it. Better safe than sorry - grass is best. Rug isn't bad, if the wife doesn't mind you knocking over vases, though...

A subcategory on protecting the whip is Pecards. The leather dressing will work wonders for it. Once or twice a year for the whole whip, but the fall could use it after every session - if not still greasy from the last application.

I've asked Adam directly before about care of the IOAB, since some folks say NOT to pecards the handle, but Adam indicated the IOAB could handle it. Just to be on the safe side, I only lightly pecarded the handle...enough to treat, but no extra.

Good choice on a great whip, Prof - have at it and have fun! Woohoo!

( <---- You now have a new smilie to express yourself, too.

)

J

P.S. Experts in this forum, please feel free to shoot holes in this if I mis-stated something, but I believe this to be a fairly accurate collection of the wisdom you have imparted here.

Prof. Ed · Post by **Prof. Ed** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:33 pm

Jerry,

Thanks for the advice. As I have said before, I'm a big time KLUTZ. When I try and "crack" this IOAB I will be wearing body and eye protection.
Old guys have enough hurt without adding to it

Adam made a fine whip and I'm sure his advice to you about leather protection is correct. If you can't trust the whip maker, than who.....!

If I ever got to attend a Summit, I don't think the TSA would give trouble about a whip in checked luggage. From the pictures I saw.

At the Summit, did folks have empty holsters that flew in? It was a question I posed on Artsee1's post. Maybe someone reading this could answer.

Best regards,

Prof. Ed

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:01 pm

Yep, my holster is always empty. But I'm local - if you are asking if the HOLSTER would raise problems in a checked bag, I sincerely doubt it. As a matter of fact, I think I saw a LOT of holsters there.

Thinking harder, I'm not sure I saw ANY pistols that day, even repros. Okay, maybe one, but I'm having trouble remembering...

winrichwhips · Post by **winrichwhips** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:41 pm

About Pecarding the handle, I remember hearing somewhere that the natural oils from your hand are usually enough to keep a bullwhip handle in good shape, so you don't need to put Pecards on it.

Peace out,

Adam

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:45 pm

winrichwhips wrote:About Pecarding the handle, I remember hearing somewhere that the natural oils from your hand are usually enough to keep a bullwhip handle in good shape, so you don't need to put Pecards on it.

Peace out,

Adam

That's right. And don't pecard the knot work as well. They will loosen up.

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:55 pm

I don't want to sound stupid but what does IOAB stand for?

The real Henry · Post by **The real Henry** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:17 pm

Indy-On-A-Budget! Too simple anyone would think of it!

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:23 pm

Thanks, that is simple and now I think I have seen that before

winrichwhips · Post by **winrichwhips** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:50 pm

When I first started, I though about calling it the Indy-on-a-Shoe-String-Budget since one of the members here who inspired the IOAB had said that he was trying to put together his Indy costume on a shoe-string budget. Though, that's just too long, and Indiana Jerry shortened it to Indy-on-a-budget. Now everybody just says IOAB.

-Adam, www.winrichwhips.com

thefish · Post by **thefish** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:30 pm

As a professional in both the higher education AND mass communication industry, I reserve the right to use as many obscure acronyms as I possibly can in any electronic post!

If there are any physicians, lawyers, or IT specialists out there, feel free to trump me. Adam, I know you're an engineer, so don't bother.

-Dan

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:52 pm

I am too, with 32 years under my belt, and I have worked for the U.S. Government, two State governments to date and currently higher education.

Your play.....

Regards! Michaelson

thefish · Post by **thefish** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:55 pm

I just KNEW you'd jump in her Michaelson!

No fair! You get to trump me with 32 years of experience in the field.

Though I've had about 32 years of experience myself. It's about 32 years now of experience TOTAL, (unless you count en womb...Then make it 32 years and 9 months.)

-Dan

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:57 pm

Who said anything about experience? I just said I had it under my belt! 8-[

High regards, my friend!

Michaelson

Indiana Texas-girl · Post by **Indiana Texas-girl** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:56 pm

Prof. Ed wrote:
At the Summit, did folks have empty holsters that flew in? It was a question I posed on Artsee1's post. Maybe someone reading this could answer.

I've never had trouble with an empty holster. You'll have more trouble if you bring a cigarette lighter.

winrichwhips wrote:When I first started, I though about calling it the Indy-on-a-Shoe-String-Budget since one of the members here who inspired the IOAB had said that he was trying to put together his Indy costume on a shoe-string budget.

Probably a good thing you didn't. Imagine the "a-Shoe-STring" part's anacronym. The sensor detector might bleep it out.

Rusty Jones · Post by **Rusty Jones** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:12 am

Cant wait to see pics of the whip, I'm considering the IOAB once I get a budget to spend :c) (and time to go with it...) can you up the price to get a 10 foot IOAB?

winrichwhips · Post by **winrichwhips** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:22 am

Hi Rusty,

You can get an IOAB whip in any length you want, it's just 8 ft is the most popular. They are $12.50 per braided foot, so a 10 footer is $125.

-Adam, www.winrichwhips.com

Rusty Jones · Post by **Rusty Jones** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:45 pm

thanks for the info, its great to have a vendor so closely involved in the forums...
(I may hold out a few months because money's tight getting ready for college, but I plan on getting (hopefully a 10 ft) IOAB at some point!)

Indakin · Post by **Indakin** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:36 am

i just ordered my IOBA 10 footer from Adam....now begins another month of Indy gear waiting.

Strider · Post by **Strider** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:41 pm

Rusty,

I've also ordered an IOAB. You know me and taking pictures, I'll have some up the very same day I get it.

Indiana Williams · Post by **Indiana Williams** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:17 pm

I have to agree with you there, Tone. The IOAB is a great whip. I plan on getting one within the next month or so.

best regards,
Joe

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:21 pm

I have cracked GRG's IOAB whip on numerous occasions. I must agree, it is the most bang for the bucks that you can get with a whip. Unless, you are talented enough to make your own.

Why is everyone ordering a 10 footer? It sounds as this will be the first whip that some of you have owned and maybe the first one that you have cracked.

I like the 8 foot better. It is easier to learn with, it is easier to do more cracks with, and it looks just about as good coiled up as a 10 footer. I just think that the 8 footer will give it's owner more satisfaction. There is a reason why Adam just said that the 8 footer is the most popular.

In Raiders of the Lost Ark, Indy may have walked around with a 10 footer coiled on his belt because it looked cool, but in the streets of Cairo scene when Harrison Ford had to actually use the thing, it was an 8 footer. Just a thought.

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:27 pm

And I went inbetween and went for a niner.

You almost always see whips of even feet in length and never (almost) the odd ones... Maybe one foot isn't much of a difference?
Anyways. My next one will be a 10 footer.
Stay tuned, because a lot of people are gonna watch me cracking it... Thats' all I'm revealing as of now.

Regards,
Swindiana

Indakin · Post by **Indakin** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:48 pm

i understand what your saying bufflehead, but i just had an 8 footer and i was able to crack it circus style no problem. I know it will be harder to learn with but i do want the look of the longer whip, plus i dont think i will have to much problem...Hopefully lol

Plus its easier to swing from things with teh longer whip....jk i know thats not what its for.

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:56 pm

Okay, cool. It sounds as if you know what your getting into. I just thought it sounded like a lot of people without any experience with whips were just automaticly ordering 10 footers. Besides, for an IOAB, paying by the foot, an 8 footer is cheaper.

Nothing wrong with a 10 foot whip. I don't have one, but who knows, one of these days I might. A lot of people are happy with a 10 footer. Just not the easiest for a beginner.

Indakin · Post by **Indakin** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:01 pm

well im def a beginner still, i only played with my whip a few hours seriously. But by reading online, and playing with my 8 foot 12 plait, i was able to get the circus crack realllllly load, almost every time i tried it. I got a few pops out of the overhead, but nothing like the circus. I know overhead is louder so i know i didnt do it right and need to work on it. I plan on only getting this one whip....for now

so i jsut went with the indy length. I'll ahve to wait to pratice with my IOAB though cause i sold my other on ebay 2 days ago.

Rabittooth · Post by **Rabittooth** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:51 pm

MorgonKenbur wrote:well im def a beginner still, i only played with my whip a few hours seriously.

Don't do it too often...you'll go blind.

-Rabittooth

Indakin · Post by **Indakin** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:40 pm

I ordered the IOAB raiders whip with the darker knot, but does the raiders whip really have a darker knot to it? I was jsut looking at teh movie on my comptuer and when i slowed down the openning gun whip away it sorta seems darker. But when they swing across the pit, and when idy grabbs his whip under the closing door its not dark. I havent checked the other scenes but i was jsut wondering. Also what color was his fall in raiders?

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:48 pm

Rabittooth wrote:
Don't do it too often...you'll go blind.

-Rabittooth

You are very bad.

Morgon, Safety goggles.

I just got mine and have got a few good cracks out of it. Yes, they are real cracks, the sort that echos around the street and sets dogs off barking.

Post by **BullWhipBorton** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:24 pm

Morgon, Some of the bullwhips used in Raiders of the Lost Ark did have a darker knot on the handle, others didn’t. I don’t believe it was done intentionally though as even on today’s Morgan bullwhips, its not uncommon to see some color variation from the main body of the whip, and the knots. Some of the knots I’ve seen are noticeably darker, others not so much, it just depends. The fall color was originally white, as they where using white hide falls, though white hide doesn’t stay very white for too long when your using a whip so it isn’t surprising that the falls have a dirty light tan color to them in many of the stills and screen grabs.

Dan

midwestwhips · Post by **midwestwhips** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:59 pm

I just wanted to add a perspective on one of the reasons why knots are lighter or darker than the color of the rest of the whip.

I know that when I use leather for the knot that is from the same hide as the rest of the whip, if I don't put any grease on it before I tie it, it will be a lighter color. Also, sometimes even if I use leather for the knot from a different hide even if it is the same color as the hide used for the rest of the whip, it will sometimes be a little darker or lighter, just because each hide has it's own characteristics.

Regards,

Paul Nolan
MidWestWhips

Indakin · Post by **Indakin** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:07 pm

thanks for the tips guys. All of you who have Indy whips, IOAB or not, do you have a dark raiders knot? For those of you who are doing the raiders indy look, do you have the darker knot, or if not do you wish you had it?

KT- I have a fencing mask from when i used to fence in middle school. Its a full metal cover and would be perfect for learning whip cracks.