A Tailored, Accurate Shirt

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:26 pm

I'm curious to see a comparison within this shirt and a wested shirt

Feraud · Post by **Feraud** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:37 pm

erri_wan wrote:I'm curious to see a comparison within this shirt and a wested shirt

Me too! I enjoy reading the pros and cons of the various pieces of gear. I think it brings the vendors and our hobby to a higher level.

The current offering looks really good. I was planning on getting a Wested shirt but this being customized puts it a step higher than the Wested. Having the correct neck, sleeve and back length is important in a shirt. I cannot wait to read those first reviews.

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:42 pm

Feraud wrote:
erri_wan wrote:I'm curious to see a comparison within this shirt and a wested shirt
Me too! I enjoy reading the pros and cons of the various pieces of gear. I think it brings the vendors and our hobby to a higher level.

The current offering looks really good. I was planning on getting a Wested shirt but this being customized puts it a step higher than the Wested. Having the correct neck, sleeve and back length is important in a shirt. I cannot wait to read those first reviews.

well i'm going to buy a wested shirt soon, but the customing is very appealing.

Feraud · Post by **Feraud** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:49 pm

erri_wan wrote:well i'm going to buy a wested shirt soon, but the customing is very appealing.

I am sure you will love it! In my opinion the Wested jacket and pants are great. I think the shirt will be no less great. Everyone's opinion in gear will differ a bit. I see nothing wrong with 98% screen accurate.

Post by **Indy Magnoli** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:48 pm

Thanks for all the kind words! Now a few answers... the epaulettes will be changed slightly on the next shirt (longer and without the box stitch). Again, I'll see if I can get some pictures posted when the light gets better. I'd estimate production time to be about two weeks from time of payment. Shipping should then take under a week (depending where in the world you are).

Kind regards,
Indy

Post by **Indy Magnoli** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:49 pm

By the way... with all the observations being made, no one noticed that the mannequin's belt is on backwards!

You dolts!

Kind regards,
Indy

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:57 pm

Indy Magnoli wrote:By the way... with all the observations being made, no one noticed that the mannequin's belt is on backwards! You dolts!

Kind regards,
Indy

Whew! It's a mannequin. I was sittin' here wondering which gearhead lost his head.

Feraud · Post by **Feraud** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:02 pm

Indy Magnoli wrote:By the way... with all the observations being made, no one noticed that the mannequin's belt is on backwards! You dolts!

Kind regards,
Indy

Doh! Who said Gearheads are the most perceptive group?

Post by **Mike** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:07 pm

Eh, just figured that was the British configuratoin for wearing a belt.

Looks great Indy!

Mike

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:21 pm

Mike wrote:Eh, just figured that was the British configuratoin for wearing a belt.

Looks great Indy!

Mike

Yeah, to match the side their jacket zipper is on.

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:30 pm

Indy Magnoli wrote:By the way... with all the observations being made, no one noticed that the mannequin's belt is on backwards! You dolts!

Kind regards,
Indy

I just figured it was due to the fact you're in New Zealand...the Correolus effect and all that. 8-[

Regards! Michaelson

IndianaRedmon · Post by **IndianaRedmon** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:16 pm

Great Shirt IM, I also appriciate the measuring diagram.

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:26 pm

Michaelson wrote:
Indy Magnoli wrote:By the way... with all the observations being made, no one noticed that the mannequin's belt is on backwards! You dolts!

Kind regards,
Indy
I just figured it was due to the fact you're in New Zealand...the Correolus effect and all that. 8-[

Regards! Michaelson

How wrong I was!

I just thought the mannequin was left-handed...

That is a beautiful shirt, Indy Magnoli, sir. When I get the itch to get something more accurate, that will likely be it. Custom measurements...WOW! (I have 'odd' measurements...my Mommy says I'm just special).

J

Post by **Indy Magnoli** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:55 pm

Here are some more pictures to answer those questions.

The shirt in daylight (with my back to the sun):

The shirt in daylight (facing the sun):

The epaulette (which I intend to lengthen and remove the box stitch):

The left pocket (with hidden pen pocket):

Kind regards,
Indy

Flash Gordon · Post by **Flash Gordon** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:06 pm

Beautiful!

You're right, on the screen shirt, the epaulette almost touches the collar...and it's NOT pointed, it's straight at the end.

Can't wait to see...and order...the revised shirt!

Post by **Indy Magnoli** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:07 pm

By the way, I'm not trying to convince anyone that "stone" is the closest to screen accurate. "Cream" may be better for those who want the whiter, more washed-out, re-dyed look...

Kind regards,
Indy

Post by **Dalexs** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:32 pm

And in a worst case scenio, there's always these to help out!

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:54 am

You drink you Cuervo Gold a shade paler than it's bottled? Hey, me too!

IM, if that 'stone' is about the shade I think it is, it's a great color. I really don't think the yellowish tone belongs. (Unless you've been watching ROTLA on VHS.)

Post by **Indy Magnoli** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:51 am

In some indoor lighting the "stone" can have a green-ish tint to it. Ah... the color debate!

Kind regards,
Indy

Shawnkara · Post by **Shawnkara** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:27 am

I think I like the Ecru the best. To my eyes Indy's shirt was never "stone", "khaki" or any other color it's been called. To me it's a WHITE shirt that's simply old, worn and lack-luster. MAYBE an extremely light shade of gray. But the examples I've seen over the years in Indy shirt colors (and there have been many) have never really captured it. I think Magnoli has done a great job with the fabric choices. Now everybody can get what they want!

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:35 am

From the last pics, the colour looks quite screen-accurate. Good job Magnoli!

Post by **Ken** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:23 am

Great job Magnoli! The best thing about this is the customisability factor - a great way to avoid the colour debate especially by offering a range of colours depending on preference. I think this shirt will be a big hit!

Ken

ShanghaiJack · Post by **ShanghaiJack** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:14 am

Nice looking shirt IM! For the custom sizes alone I would buy this shirt.

I was wondering about the pleats (the extra material running lengthwise down the shirt). From your photos it looks like the pleats are sewn on both edges to the shirt. I thought that the pleats on the screen looked like they were not completely sewn down. I thought this engendered a wrinkling of the pleats as seen on screen.

Post by **Ken** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:52 am

ShanghaiJack wrote:Nice looking shirt IM! For the custom sizes alone I would buy this shirt.

I was wondering about the pleats (the extra material running lengthwise down the shirt). From your photos it looks like the pleats are sewn on both edges to the shirt. I thought that the pleats on the screen looked like they were not completely sewn down. I thought this engendered a wrinkling of the pleats as seen on screen.

Its probably more practical though and will stop the pleats puckering when washed.

Ken

ShanghaiJack · Post by **ShanghaiJack** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:11 am

Indiana Ken wrote:
ShanghaiJack wrote:Nice looking shirt IM! For the custom sizes alone I would buy this shirt.

I was wondering about the pleats (the extra material running lengthwise down the shirt). From your photos it looks like the pleats are sewn on both edges to the shirt. I thought that the pleats on the screen looked like they were not completely sewn down. I thought this engendered a wrinkling of the pleats as seen on screen.
Its probably more practical though and will stop the pleats puckering when washed.

Ken

That's funny Ken, because I actually want my pleats to pucker!

Feraud · Post by **Feraud** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:15 am

I think they still might pucker to your satisfaction. If you look at the picture Indy Magnoli posted of him wearing the shirt you can see some puckering to the pleats.

I think the color and custom sizing options are going to make a lot of gearheads happy!

I am thinking of getting one for my 11 yr. old son!

Indy_Railok · Post by **Indy_Railok** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:47 pm

Now this is bad luck..
If you did write this a week ago, i would not order that Cabela's shirt.. Well, I'll wait to the pants.

Gobler · Post by **Gobler** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:55 pm

Yeah the pleas should not be sewn on the outside. Still going to order one or two or... when the final shirt is set. Hopefuly before QM

Cheers,
Jeff

Canyon · Post by **Canyon** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:54 pm

Magnoli, absolutely beautiful pictures.

I think you really have nailed the shirt, big time.

Post by **Mike** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:02 pm

Indy,

Will you change the button colors depending on the fabric color? It's kinda funny, and I'm sure a trick of the lighting, but in the indoor pics, the buttons look to match the material, where on the outdoor pics they look stark white. Not a critique... just pondering.

Mike

Post by **Indy Magnoli** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:08 pm

I'm working on changing the buttons right now. The thing I wanted to avoid was the tortoise-shell buttons that we see on so many store brand shirts. I'll keep you posted.

Kind regards,
Indy

McFly · Post by **McFly** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:07 pm

Feraud wrote:I am thinking of getting one for my 11 yr. old son!

Good idea! And bring him to the QM!

In Christ,
Shane

IndyMo · Post by **IndyMo** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:36 pm

Tony,

Where do you find the time? Great Job and at a good price.

Question:

I'm interested in LC shirt - which color is most accurate?

Mike

Post by **Indy Magnoli** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:58 pm

IndyMo wrote:I'm interested in LC shirt - which color is most accurate?

That's the colour debate I'd like to stay away from... as Rick Blaine would say "Indy, when it comes to color, you're a true Democrat!" But, if I have to make a stand... I'd recommend "stone" for LC and perhaps "cream" or "ecru" for the lighter Cairo look.

Kind regards,
Indy

Daniel Riser · Post by **Daniel Riser** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:36 pm

Why no pen pocket stitch?

Post by **Dalexs** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:23 pm

Daniel Riser wrote:Why no pen pocket stitch?

Ummm, HIDDEN PEN POCKET! (you chucklehead!)

Post by **Indy Magnoli** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:44 pm

Give the man a cigar!

But seriously... the pen pocket is a separate pocket within the main breast pocket, so no extra stitch is necessary. I prefer the way it looks and functions. It looks much more professional. So if it's just a matter of screen accuracy for you, I can have an extra stitch put in.

Kind regards,
Indy

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:55 am

Dalexs wrote:(you chucklehead!)

It's always refreshing to see someone use one of those good old SAT words in the proper context...

(P.S. Thanks, I needed the laugh

...of course, I laugh at slapstick, too.)

Zach R. · Post by **Zach R.** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:06 pm

Thanks a lot Magnoli, I finally have a little cash in my wallet and you come up with something like this to take it right away.

Feraud · Post by **Feraud** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:19 pm

IndyMcFly wrote:
Feraud wrote:I am thinking of getting one for my 11 yr. old son!
Good idea! And bring him to the QM!

In Christ,
Shane

I wish we were attending! My wife were so close to booking a room at the QM until..work got in the way. :evil:

Maybe next time.

Indiana Williams · Post by **Indiana Williams** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:56 am

Awesome shirt Magnoli, I think its better looking then the Wested shirt.cant wait to see it when you have it perfected.
Best Regards,
Joe

Indiana Texas-girl · Post by **Indiana Texas-girl** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:07 am

I think Daniel Riser meant was Why No Pen Pocket Picture(s) since he'd requested that earlier.

VP · Post by VP » Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:11 am

Here's a nice shot of the epaulets:

Feraud · Post by **Feraud** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:47 am

It looks like the epauletes are not round but square with 'clipped' corners..
Does that make any sense?

VP · Post by VP » Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:54 am

Yeah, we discussed that a long time ago when WPG was designing their shirt.

viewtopic.php?t=7944
viewtopic.php?t=7903

Colby · Post by **Colby** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:56 am

Magnoli, this may seem a bit off topic but I was wondering if it could be possible for you to make a Cairo Marion shirt possibly in the future? I'm sure a few members here including myself would want one. My girlfriend has been looking for one for quite a while, so I'm trying to get one for her.

Feraud · Post by **Feraud** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:00 am

Marion's embroidered shirt looks very complicated to reproduce.
Colby- have you looked in stores in your area?
I have seen very similar looking shirts in Indian clothing stores.
It might not be exact but you can find a really close version.

Gobler · Post by **Gobler** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:37 am

Can any one get a grab of Indy when he runs into the market-place looking for Marion (in the basket) The camera pulles close to him and there is a great shot of the left shoulder. You can see that the epaulete is round.

Cheers,
Jeff

Colby · Post by **Colby** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:58 am

Feraud wrote:Marion's embroidered shirt looks very complicated to reproduce.
Colby- have you looked in stores in your area?
I have seen very similar looking shirts in Indian clothing stores.
It might not be exact but you can find a really close version.

I've looked around some but the selection is limited in my area.

I just figured if anyone could replicate that shirt I bet Magnoli could! I wanted to try to get the best for her. My girlfriend even got her hair cut exactly like Marions so she would be screen accurate and we could match. She didn't do it for Halloween or anything either!

Post by **Indy Magnoli** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:53 pm

It shouldn't be a problem to make any small detail changes on each individual shirt, as they are custom tailored to the customer. So, if you want rounded, cut-off, square, or contrasting bright pink epaulettes, we can provide.

Now for the bad news... I'm in the process of doing McFly's shirt, and have come across more work/costs than anticipated. So the price will have to be pushed up to $79. This bugs the heck out of me, as I was happy to keep the price as low as I had, but c'est la vie. Please remember though that international shipping is included in the price.

Kind regards,
Indy