I did it. I took the plunge...

Dre · Post by **Dre** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:33 am

Well i just ordered my jacket online...and now im a bit nervous!
Got the tailor measurements all done yesterday
im getting:

ToD Jacket
Authentic Brown Goatskin
Cotton body/satin sleeves lining
Xbox stitching

however im still not 100% sure about the size. i ordered a size 40 but then i put in the special requests that if they dont think a size 40 would fit based on my measurement (which was about 40.16 inches) then make a size 41 or 42. but it should fit shouyldnt it? I dont want it too baggy but i dont want it to be a wet suit! hehe.

Also, i did not specify a jacket length. The height should give a good length anyway should it not?the tailor measured 29 inches but it seems way too long to me (im 168cm tall..)? so i just left that up to them.

Now the wait begins! This is the first item i've ever ordered from the internet. The first piece of clothing i've bought that i haven't tried on. It's fairly nerve racking!

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:40 am

Nice choice!

(I have the same jacket, could you tell?)

I'm rather tall and needed some extra length added to mine to feel comfortable, but you should be alright with what Wested decides for you I think.

Let us know when you get it!

If you have any questions, I've had my Auth. Brown ToD goat for over a year now and I really like it, so feel free to ask.

Regards,
Swindiana

Dre · Post by **Dre** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:48 am

the only question i have is...would you advice i treat it with something first? if so...with what?
i know pecards seems to be the big thing around here...but it wont be easy to come by in australia and id prefer to use something that i can actually get easily.

What do you use? pecards? hehe

Dre · Post by **Dre** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:49 am

oh also...how shiny was it when you got it/how shiny is it still?
have you distressed it?

Pandora · Post by **Pandora** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:05 am

Hi Dre,

don't be so nervous. I ordered my Wested two weeks or so ago. It is also one of the first clothing I ordered on the internet. Wested has great experience with what they do. And if you get the jacket and are not satisfied you can send it back and they will change it for you for free (you only have to pay the postage).

I'll get an Authentic Brown Lamskin, Raiders Style. Can't wait to get, see, smell, wear it. And maybe even to sleep in it...

I'm also interested in care for the jacket: I'm not going to distress the jacket myself, I'll have mother nature to do this for me. So is there anything good available in Germany?

German members: how do you care for your jacket?

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:09 am

It was rather shiny when I got it.
Some shots HERE and ONE HERE.

The shine went away after a bit of wear and rain though, and some spinns in the dryer on no heat reduced it further with some softening up going on aswell...
THIS is after a couple of months of wear, and the following shots is of some minor distressing along the edges and seams;
Shot 1
Shot 2
Shot 3

The current look of the jacket can be seen in THIS thread here on COW.

I treated the jacket pretty quickly after I got it, which really wasn't necessary I think. Treating it will help softening it up further after 1-2 months of wear though when you start noticing some of the "dryer" spots that can use some dressing. (Usually the sleeves.) I don't use Pecard, mainly because it is hard to come by in Sweden. Instead I use a leather dressing made by Rapide which I think works great with goat and it is easy to apply. (I contacted the distributor in Sweden of the product line and this was the recommendation for goat that I got.)

So... Yeah, it was a bit shiny to begin with, but it will gradually fade with wear, and you can help it along the way by putting your jacket inside a pillow case and spinn it in a dryer on no-heat setting, later treating it with some dressing.

Regards,
Swindiana

Dre · Post by **Dre** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:18 am

looks like it dulled up nicely!
VERY shiny in that first picture...but yeah...looks like it goes away with a little effort/no effort it seems!

great stuff

Post by **Jens** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:01 am

Must be a very popular jacket, as I also own a ToD authentic brown goat.

You will be very happy with it, promised! The goat is a great and durable leather. As Swindy said the "shiny effect" will go after a few wear.

Pan: I wear my jacket every day (since more than 2 years). No speacial treatment, just a little bit of "Lederfett" (you can get in every supermarket) now and then ...

Indiana_Tom · Post by **Indiana_Tom** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:12 am

I feel with you, Pandora. I ordered my Wested on June 29th. Can't wait to get it, really!!

Let's see who will have it in his hands first...

I'm wondering how shiny my jacket is when getting it. But with a little sandpaper I'll correct that easily

Jens, I always thought you own the dark brown version?? IN all those pics from the summit your jacket looks darker than Jan's authentic brown lamb for example?!

Post by **Jens** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:29 am

I also thought, it might be a little dark, then I recieved it.
I asked someone at Wested (can't remember who) and they confirmed it was the "authentic brown". Maybe the colour depends on the kind of leather (lamb vs. goat) and / or the leather in stock.

Plus: Jan's jacket was distressed, wasn't it?

Wrightknife · Post by **Wrightknife** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:47 am

Congratulations Dre,

I have just received my new Wested with exactly the same specs as yours! It is amazing, you won't believe how nice this jacket is. Wested forgot to put in the Xbox stitches in mine though. I know you will Love your new Indy jacket.

Dre · Post by **Dre** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:03 am

Wrightknife wrote:Congratulations Dre,

I have just received my new Wested with exactly the same specs as yours! It is amazing, you won't believe how nice this jacket is. Wested forgot to put in the Xbox stitches in mine though. I know you will Love your new Indy jacket.

how long did it take to get there from when you ordered it?

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:41 am

Congratulations Dre! Very good choice. Now you know, we will be expecting pictures once you receive your bundle of joy.

And welcome to COW.

Cheers!

Dan

Wrightknife · Post by **Wrightknife** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:55 am

Dre,

I believe it was only 12 days from order to receipt. See this thread..viewtopic.php?t=12812

I couldn't believe how fast it was. I had heard horror stories about long waits, that's why I ordered mine in the summer. The quality and service are both top notch. Again congratulations on the fine choice and don't forget pics when it gets here!

Regards,

Dre · Post by **Dre** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:00 am

DanielJones wrote:Congratulations Dre! Very good choice. Now you know, we will be expecting pictures once you receive your bundle of joy. And welcome to COW.

Cheers!

Dan

Definetely there will be pictures. I feel i owe all of you some after the countless posts and pictures ive seen on these forums. They've all helped alot and it'll be my turn to give something back and help others in their choices too =)

And Writeknife, that's fast! i only hope it'll be that fast for me. though i do expect it to be a month...but maybe ill be pleasently surprised! im already dying to get it hehe

been watching raiders of the lost ark after i ordered it =) what a nice jacket

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:31 am

Just try to relax Dre, I'm sure everything will be fine.

I also have a ToD authentic brown goat. I can only second what the other goat owners have said. However, I will go out on a limb and say that Wested's goat skin has changed for the better. I ordered mine last August, during a goat shortage. I didn't get my jacket until November. But what I got was a jacket that absolutely shocked me. I was expecting a jacket that was stiff and shiny, but thats not what I got. My jacket was soft right out of the box and I never found it to be too shiny. But like Swindiana said, rain is one of the best ways to break in the goat skin. The rain help the leather to relax and mold to you body. It also helps to take away the shine.

Wrightknife · Post by **Wrightknife** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:37 am

Thanks for the Goat posts guys, I will have mine on in the rain the next time it sprinkles.

Regards

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:23 pm

A little rain and the dryer (on the no heat setting)..Hmm

Must try that little trick and see if it dulls down horse hide. Thanks for the info Swindiana.

Cheers!

Dan

Indiana_Tom · Post by **Indiana_Tom** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:28 pm

@Swindiana: How long should a jacket be in the dryer?

Post by **Jens** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:28 pm

Indiana_Tom wrote:Jens, I always thought you own the dark brown version??

Tom, I think you were right. I checked my old E-Mail-correspondence (Yes, I have mails that are 2 years old! I really need to clean up my mailbox.

). Original I wanted the "authentic brown", but it was out of stock, so I took the "dark brown" (which looks awesome, too!).

-- Jens

Indiana_Tom · Post by **Indiana_Tom** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:39 pm

See? I've got eagle eyes!

Post by **Jens** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:40 pm

Well, it's not that hard to beat an old man who was too lazy to take his glasses.

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:44 pm

Indiana_Tom wrote:@Swindiana: How long should a jacket be in the dryer?

Basically, until you're satisfied.

I think mine was in there for a total of about 2-2.5 hours on a couple of occasions, but I've heard of some of our "pioneers" letting their jackets go way longer. Just try it out for 40 minutes or so, and you'll see and feel the change. At first you're a bit worried it will harm the jacket, but it doesn't. It just speeds up the 'wearing in process'. My opinion, so take it for what it's worth.

Don't forget zipping up.

Regards,
Swindiana

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:54 pm

Swindiana: So I take it that the pillow case works as a light abrasive to dull the finish? Does it wear at the edged and seams or just takes the shine down a bit?

Cheers!

Dan

Indiana_Tom · Post by **Indiana_Tom** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:54 pm

@Swindy: Really good. Thanks for this advice.

@Jens:

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:04 pm

DanielJones wrote:Swindiana: So I take it that the pillow case works as a light abrasive to dull the finish? Does it wear at the edged and seams or just takes the shine down a bit?

Cheers!

Dan

No. The pillow case protects the leather from any residue left on your dryer drum left from dryer sheets. It only helps loosen up the stiff leather. This procedure was pioneered by _ and Lee Keppler quite a while ago. As was said above...NO HEAT!! Regards! Michaelson

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:14 pm

Ah ha!

I see says the blind man! Thank you Michaelson.

Cheers!

Dan

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:19 pm

DanielJones wrote:Ah ha! I see says the blind man! Thank you Michaelson.

Cheers!

Dan

I see said the blind man to his deaf son, as he picked up his hammer and saw.

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:33 pm

When I first saw the title of this thread, I thought someone's toilet was clogged.

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:04 pm

did anyone try this with a lamb skin jacket ( dryer )?

Dre · Post by **Dre** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:37 pm

jpenman wrote:did anyone try this with a lamb skin jacket ( dryer )?

does lamb even need any softening/dulling?

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:48 pm

lamb is very shiny.

Dre · Post by **Dre** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:50 pm

oh ok...i thought it was just goat that had the shiny-ness issues.
That makes me feel better about choosing goat =)

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:44 pm

Bufflehead Jones wrote:
DanielJones wrote:Ah ha! I see says the blind man! Thank you Michaelson.

Cheers!

Dan
I see said the blind man to his deaf son, as he picked up his hammer and saw.

Ah ha she cried as she waved he wooden leg and her glass eye fell to the floor; along with the tattered drawers that Maggie wore.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:57 am

Weaver, we need to get out of the summer sun! The summer heat is boiling our brains!

Regards! Michaelson

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:16 pm

Bufflehead Jones wrote: I see said the blind man to his deaf son, as he picked up his hammer and saw.

Two tools sat in front of the TV. One saw.

Sorry. I just had to!

It's the only one of them who works both in Swedish and in English, you see...or saw.

Saw along, saw along.

Regards,
Swindiana

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:48 pm

groan.

Regards! Michaelson

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:58 pm

Man! I post the Readers Digest verson of a long standing saying and I get the unabridged versions of others.

Some folks have way too much time on their idle hands.

Michaelson: I believe the one saying about the summer sun has something to do with mad dogs and englishmen. Correct?

Which would classify us?

Woof!

Cheers!

Dan

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:59 pm

I know. I'll put on another pot of the brown stuff, it's hard to stay awake when these jokes come up.

Regards,
Swindiana

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:14 pm

DanielJones wrote: Some folks have way too much time on their idle hands.

Not me. I'm just doing this while taking a break from draining, cleaning, rinsing, polishing, and refilling the hot tub. I'm sweating my screen accurate rear end off.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:20 pm

DanielJones wrote: Michaelson: I believe the one saying about the summer sun has something to do with mad dogs and englishmen. Correct?
Which would classify us? Woof!

Cheers!

Dan

Well, I AM part Welsh, so I guess that counts.

Regards! Michaelson

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:09 pm

See. The Irish & the Sicilian in me know better. Air conditioned office my friends.

LOL

Cheers!

Dan

Ark Hunter · Post by **Ark Hunter** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:36 pm

Swindiana wrote:If you have any questions, I've had my Auth. Brown ToD goat for over a year now and I really like it, so feel free to ask.

I think your jacket looks darker than most also Swindy. Do they use a darker "authentic brown" for ToD jackets?

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:43 pm

Nope, the authentic brown is authentic brown. In some light it looks near black, and others it looks quite light. Its really interesting how light effect how something looks.

Here are a couple example of my ToD authentic brown goat.
Dark
Light

Ark Hunter · Post by **Ark Hunter** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:52 pm

Man that's crazy. Do you have one indoors? Does it look like everyone elses when you get a "close up" of it? (kind of milk chocolatey brown)

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:13 pm

Sorry, but I don't have any indoors or close up pics. I don't have a digital camera, so all my pics have been taken in the field.

But I don't think that my jacket is any different than anyone else's jacket. I'd say that the true color is somewhere between what you see in the two pics. I think that this pic is fairly close to how the jacket appear most of the time.
Here

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:43 pm

My TOD looks black in some light and brown in others. But it is a very dark brown. See here:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b278/ ... cket05.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b278/ ... /Hat12.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b278/ ... ey2056.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b278/ ... ey2002.jpg

Anyway you can see in different lighting the jacket appeard quite different as well. Indoors, just looking at it you'd swear it's black, especially next to my motorcycle jacket. Take it outside and the brown tones pop out. Go figure.

Cheers!

Dan

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:50 pm

Your's is horsehide right Daniel?

What ever it is its a sharp looking jacket.

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:20 pm

Horsehide it is Mr. Weaver. Quite light, very soft and most certainly durable.

And thanks for the compliment sir.

Cheers!

Dan

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:45 pm

Hmm...light?

I've heard most people describe the horsehide as heavy. I guess its a just perception.

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