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Elderly Indy's eyepatch
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:22 pm
by Mattdeckard
Anybody here ever look for the gear of the elderly Indy that was in the premiere of the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles?
He had an eyepatch on.
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:27 pm
by Michaelson
Considering he was the least liked of the Lucas Indy inventions...no, I can honestly say that I've never heard of anyone looking for anything 'Old Indy' related. You trying to dovetail this into bink's glass eye post?
Just kidding.....Regards. Michaelson
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:52 pm
by Mattdeckard
Well if indy had a glass eye later in life, I'm sure we have a few members that would be curious to know.
He obviously survived the 60's
I'd have to agree, I am sure he is the Star Wars Christmas special of Indiana Jones.
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:57 pm
by binkmeisterRick
I prefer a glass eye. A wooden one leaves splinters, you know....
bink eye for the glass eye
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:03 pm
by Mattdeckard
I wonder if this is the first picture of him ever posted on COW.
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:10 pm
by Michaelson
I don't think so...but it's sure been a LONG time since he was. What I really didn't care for was his fleece collared leather jacket and narrow brimmed fedora.....nothing like any of the movies or YIJC costuming....he looked like he fell out of a cardboard box on the street. Just a sad idea of where Indy would have ended up, especially a past professor. I know a LOT of them, and none of them went THIS far south. Once again, that's just me. Regards. Michaelson
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:17 pm
by Mattdeckard
Maybe the college was unacredited when he worked there.
I didn't remember the hat... another item of clothing that we have to research. Maybe it was from Miller's Outpost.
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:18 pm
by Indiana Jess
I never cared for the old Indy myself. I always figured that the character would have a little more fire in his belly (not from eating cheap mexican food) then this guy did.
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:18 pm
by Michaelson
Probably a new Stetson. (grins) Regards. Michaelson
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:26 pm
by Rob
Indiana Jess wrote:I never cared for the old Indy myself. I always figured that the character would have a little more fire in his belly (not from eating cheap mexican food) then this guy did.
Give him a break... he's into his 90s at this point. You don't find too many people 90-plus with a lot of fire in their bellies...
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:52 pm
by Hemingway Jones
It's amazing how much Ford looks like this guy now.
OK, just kidding, take it easy everyone.
Many of you know how much this guy bugs me, just because he wasn't particularly articulate. Jones was a college professor and world traveller and this guy speaks like Jed Clampet. What happened? How does the star of Raiders age into this guy? The elder Jones was the Jar Jar of the Indy franchise!
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:59 pm
by Rob
Possibly he takes some shrapnel in the head during the Korean War and it dumbs him down a little
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:51 pm
by Bushman
Yep, it was a long sad road from Indy to Old Indy. A few broken marriages; an earring or two; weird, metrosexual, punkish haircuts; strange doings with pencil-thin women . . . .
Heck, Old Indy is Indy on the way back! Give the guy credit.
Bushman
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:32 am
by Rob
He had to stay with the Grial, like the Grail Knight, for the effects of the cup to keep working...
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:36 am
by Rob
No, I don't think the Grail can 'un do' a wound it has healed. I mean, heck, it's very sloppy logic they used... but it seems to make sense that Connery was healed, and if he stayed, he could have lived forever. But he elected not to, so the wound remained healed... he just lost the immortality he could have had if he stayed and drank from the cup each day.
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:23 am
by binkmeisterRick
Rob wrote:Indiana Jess wrote:I never cared for the old Indy myself. I always figured that the character would have a little more fire in his belly (not from eating cheap mexican food) then this guy did.
Give him a break... he's into his 90s at this point. You don't find too many people 90-plus with a lot of fire in their bellies...
My Great Uncle is almost 105, and he's got PLENTY of fire left in his belly, even if he's slow to get around and a bit hard of hearing. Heck, last time I saw him, he was singing us songs he learned in kindergarden!
bink
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:36 am
by Kris
The Joneses aren't immortal, but will become like 150-200 ..
As the other grail knights came back from the desert after that time .. and they didn't stay either, did they.
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:29 am
by Redbeard
I try to get back to the topic of this thread. I don't know if anybody ever researche on old Indy's gear. But I know that there are some folks who have the cane. I will use this cane, when I'm old...it's pretty nice.
And yes, old Indy is a little...queer...but that's normal when becoming old. And I know people who are worse.
Regards,
Redbeard
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:22 pm
by Flattery
Are the Chronicles available for rent? I've never seen them...
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:25 pm
by Michaelson
I've seen them at Block Buster for rent. Regards. Michaelson
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:49 pm
by Mattdeckard
I don't believe they put out the episodes with the younger kid yet, and they might never release anything that has the 93 year old Indy in it.
"you thrown me the idol I throw you the walker!"
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:58 pm
by Michaelson
I believe you're right, Matt. As I recall, Lucas said he'd never release the series with the 'bookends' with George Hall, since they were received so badly by the public. Unless you have them on video from the 1992 TV series on ABC, you won't find him on them in any releases. Regards. Michaelson
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:15 pm
by Mattdeckard
Think he could edit Jarjar out of the next special edition sets for episodes 1 and 2?
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:17 pm
by Michaelson
Hear hear!!!
Regards. Michaelson
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:38 pm
by Ken
They still play them on TV from time to time, even here. We are having a run of the Young Indy series on Sundays at the moment and that includes the ones of him as a kid.
Ken
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:54 pm
by Mattdeckard
I aint seen hide nor hair of the show on TV in the US for years
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:57 pm
by Michaelson
It still pops up on RARE occasion on the Family Channel. Regards. Michaelson
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:44 pm
by Scandinavia Jones
Old Indy also appeared in
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, only renamed "Grand Nagus Zek".
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:21 pm
by Indiana Jess
Although it's a cane, from the picture it looks like Grand Nagus Zek has just scored a gold idol.
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:09 pm
by Indiana Jarmyr
Scandinavia Jones wrote:Old Indy also appeared in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, only renamed "Grand Nagus Zek".
Oh, that was fun!
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:31 pm
by Rob
binkmeisterRick wrote:My Great Uncle is almost 105, and he's got PLENTY of fire left in his belly, even if he's slow to get around and a bit hard of hearing. Heck, last time I saw him, he was singing us songs he learned in kindergarden!
That's great to hear! But, bink, you must admit, that is
abnormal. I think my point stands...
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:19 pm
by Indiana Jess
Well we're all entitled to our opinions. However, I was speaking specifically about the character of elderly Indy. I found him be rather bland. There's no reason why they couldn't have made him a bit more like Bink's great uncle or in fact, like my mom, who at almost 85, still travels around the world.
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:31 pm
by Rob
As we aren't privvy to what Old Indy does with the remaining 99% of his day, when he's not sitting in a hospital waiting room or wherever the particular set-up might be, who says that he isn't? I sense people are reading too much into these 5 minute segments.
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:33 pm
by Mattdeckard
They could have given him one of those rascal or hoveround motorized wheelchairs with a whip hanging off the side. He could hve had his great grand son with him who wore a rakish red ballcap and a leather jacket.
Pass the torch grandpa
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:45 pm
by Indiana Jess
Mattdeckard wrote:They could have given him one of those rascal or hoveround motorized wheelchairs with a whip hanging off the side. He could hve had his great grand son with him who wore a rakish red ballcap and a leather jacket.
Pass the torch grandpa
Either that or give him a personality.
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:58 pm
by Scandinavia Jones
Indiana Jess wrote:Either that or give him a personality.
Don't know... personality might be a bad thing, too...
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:05 pm
by Rob
I'm wondering whether you guys have actually seen these segments, or whether you saw them once back in the early 90s or something.
The character HAD personality. I can remember some segments in particular where he was quite crotchety with people; I thought that was great. It's not like Indy is the friendliest guy when played by Ford, either.
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:10 pm
by Scandinavia Jones
I've seen them. I remember them quite well. They blew, big time.
But then again, I don't care for YIJC at all - an embarrasing show, IMO.
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 1:05 am
by Mattdeckard
He had enough personality to stand out like a sore thumb.
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 1:56 am
by Rob
Oh well, we agree to disagree. At the end of the day, he IS Indy
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:05 am
by Mattdeckard
He's not my Indy
My elderly Indy still wears his tall crowned dimentional cut fedora, even in the 1990's.
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:12 am
by Rob
Wouldn't it start to pong, 60-odd years later?!?
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:26 am
by Mattdeckard
Rob wrote:Wouldn't it start to pong, 60-odd years later?!?
Pong?
Maybe his eyepatch is made of brown felt from his hat.
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:33 am
by Rob
Pong = smell
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:17 am
by Indiana Jerry
Rob wrote:Pong = smell
Ping = sound.
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:21 am
by Indiana Jerry
Rob wrote:As we aren't privvy to what Old Indy does with the remaining 99% of his day, when he's not sitting in a hospital waiting room or wherever the particular set-up might be, who says that he isn't? I sense people are reading too much into these 5 minute segments.
I'll bite.
I intentionally skipped the YIJC when they came on...but...
Sure, we can imagine that maybe he was cool the moment after he walked out of the room, but if that was more indicative of his personality, you'd think the writers would have included THAT in his five minute segments. ("Aw, rats, he was cranky for that take. That's it, that's all we get?")
I can't believe they wrote the part to somehow not reflect who he was then. Seems like if he blew, he was meant to blow (as per the script).
I wonder what George Lucas wanted for old Indy...
IJ
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:28 am
by binkmeisterRick
Rob wrote:binkmeisterRick wrote:My Great Uncle is almost 105, and he's got PLENTY of fire left in his belly, even if he's slow to get around and a bit hard of hearing. Heck, last time I saw him, he was singing us songs he learned in kindergarden!
That's great to hear! But, bink, you must admit, that is
abnormal. I think my point stands...
Hey, I never
said my family was normal!
bink
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:55 pm
by Rob
Indiana Jerry wrote:Sure, we can imagine that maybe he was cool the moment after he walked out of the room, but if that was more indicative of his personality, you'd think the writers would have included THAT in his five minute segments. ("Aw, rats, he was cranky for that take. That's it, that's all we get?")
Well I wasn't even talking in terms of "cool". For example, I quite like the crotchety side to old Indy as I don't think it's imcompatible with the character. Further, there are some true signs of compassion in the segments, which also fits the character.
What I was saying was in reference to the notion that he should have appeared more active. To that, I said we aren't privvy to 99% of his day, so it's not inconceivable.
At the end of the day, these set-ups had to be fairly pedestrian, so that Old Indy could converse with someone (hard to do if you're hanging off a train or a truck). They also had to be in places that related to the episode, so a tie-in could be found. For example, my hospital example tied in with the Albert Schweitzer (sp?) episode, IIRC.
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 12:31 am
by Indiana Jerry
Rob - Those are good points. That logic is sound, I defer to you.
Your kung fu is greater than mine.
P.S. I miss Irwin.
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 1:51 am
by Mattdeckard
Kind of sad to think Indy ends up all alone looking for people to listen to his stories.