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Peters Bros Michaelson Indy Borsalino

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:40 am
by Iron Chef
I was looking at the hat on recomendation from a friend. I was wondering if anyone has this hat and what they think about it.

http://www.petersbros.com/INDY_BORSALINO/index.html

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:18 am
by MK
I really love mine. It is the most Raiders hat I have ever had on my head.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:50 am
by Oklahoma Jones
Have to agree with MK on this one.......I love both my PBBMs. For me, this hat covers all the bases.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:41 am
by Texas Jones
I got mine about a month ago and love it. The quality of the felt is superior and the hat is identical to the PB Custom as far as block and shape (Jimmy uses the same block and shaping on both). The PB custom is a darker brown and the felt is too hard for my taste. The Borsalino is lighter and will form to your head better for a comfortable fit. It's definately worth the extra hundred bucks. I had Jimmy shape mine ToD style and he also replaced the band with a skinnier one to make it match the hat in ToD.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:45 am
by Ken
What are the main differences between the Michaelson and the Custom? Does the name suggest then that the Michaelson is not custom if that makes sense?

Ken

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:33 pm
by antiquity collector
Correct! It is an off the shelf Borsalino that is restyled to the Indy look. I was told by Fedora that it is fuzzier than the Akubra Fed. I like my Fed. Deluxe but I find that really fuzzy. I wouldn't want anything that's more than that. I like the clean smoothness of felts for hats.

Just passing on some info that helped me make a decision concerning the PBBM. Maybe the felt has changed since then?

AC

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:42 pm
by JerseyJones
I have both a Borsalino Michaelson and a PB Custom and really both are terrific hats for different things.

The Borsalino is a soft, lightweight floppy and wonderful vintage style hat that looks great and is not so fuzzy as you'd notice. It is expensive and worth it, but I don't wear it if I think things are going to get to rough

The PB Custom is a tough, stiff till you break it in, beautifully shapes, shape-retaining monster. I wear this one more and I do not fear doing so because it does verge on bulletproof. A little puff of Rain and Stain and I am good to go. It is also the best fitting hat I own

I'll try to put pix up soon.

My .02

Ken

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:04 pm
by Fedora
I am happy so many like the PBBMs. I have seen one, and I was not impressed with the felt. Looked like the modern Borsalinos to me. But, to each his own, and thank goodness, most folks are not as picky as me. Fedora

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:06 pm
by Michaelson
Being bias, I'll just keep my thoughts to myself. 8) I'm wearing mine today (ironically), and needless to say, I'm a bit fond of it..... :wink: Regards. Michaelson

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:42 pm
by binkmeisterRick
Hey, when do I get a hat named after ME? :evil:

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:52 pm
by Scandinavia Jones
Hey, when do I get a hat named after ME?
PB Custom Binkmeister?
Sounds better than PB Borsalino Binkmeister...
I'd buy one right away! :lol:

/SJ

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:57 pm
by binkmeisterRick
Then people could say they have the heebie jeebies for the PBCB! :lol:

Okay. maybe only I found that funny. :roll:

Actually, since I keep finding vintage lids cheap at thrift stores and antique stores, the PBCB could be classy, well made, and cheaply priced!

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 2:49 pm
by Iron Chef
Wow. Thanks for the feedback. I guess its just up to me whether i want a hat with hard felt or soft. It sounds like the shape is the same on both. Now I just have to save up a few more bucks so I can join the fedora club.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:00 pm
by Michaelson
Well, just to sling in a ringer....you can also ask for less stiffiner to be put on a custom, so it's a lot softer than the standard . Either way, they're both fine choices. I own one of each, and am quite pleased with them both. Regards. Michaelson

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:04 pm
by Gobler
Glad to see ya here Iron Chef. As I said the Peter Bros is my choise for a quality lid that does not cost an arm and a leg. After all Kev chose the PB _ after seeing mine but we can talk about that on Sun.

Cheers,
Jeff

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 8:14 pm
by MK
I have a dark grey one that I would be willing to part with. It is a 7 3/8.


Don't ask about the brown......it is a keeper. 8)

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:00 am
by parsa
Iron Chef,

You wouldn't be a geocacher would you?

Parsa

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 1:46 am
by Iron Chef
Well I think its gonna be a PB custom brown for me. Im hard on my gear and Ill need a tough hat for when I have to fight off the ladies when I wear it. Its hard to find a guy wearing a real hat these days. Im definatly going for the raiders look as that is my favorite of the 3. Thanks for all the feed back. I think the hat is the hardest part. Seems like the jacket, shoes and mkVII are easier to decide on.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 1:13 pm
by Michaelson
Don't tell the JACKET guys that! There may be a lynching later! :shock: :wink: Good choice, by the way. I still recommend you tell them to keep the stiffiner down so it isn't to hard. They soften up with wear, but why go through all that. Be sure to call them too. They LOVE to talk to customers and get the order details directly from a new customer. Regards. Michaelson

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:22 pm
by Swindiana
mkVII
Easy to decide on? Yes. Discussion about it over with? No! :wink:

Let us know how it all goes with your gear collecting, welcome.

Regards,
Swindy

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:47 pm
by Iron Chef
Thanks. Umm the jacket looks to be harder than i thought. Yeah. Its tough. Im gonna spend alot of time in that forum.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:07 pm
by Trevelyan
Iron Chef wrote:....mkVII are easier to decide on.
Swindiana beat me to it. The MKVII is probably the piece of gear I've pondered over the most. Between the perfect buckle (which I've given up on finding), the strap, and the black stripe(which I've grown to love), there's just so much to get right. Ah, but I guess we bag men are a rather small bunch. :D

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:31 am
by Swindiana
Trevelyan wrote: Between the perfect buckle (which I've given up on finding)
You have one of the best ToD looks I have ever seen and this is a great buckle if you want to make your own black strap for your Mk VII:

http://www.ozsaddle.com/detail.php?grp=21&code=BKL100H1

I got mine from whipwarrior's contest and it's very nice and very ToD in my opinion.

Check it out:
http://www.indygear.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7992
Ah, but I guess we bag men are a rather small bunch.
Add the word obsessive and the line would be complete. ;)

Regards,
Swindiana

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:11 am
by SHARPETOYS
I have one in the grey color and i wouldn't give you 2 cents for it. Lousy modern felt. I could have bought 3 Akubra's or just a little more another Optimo.The old Borsalino's were much better than the modern ones.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:41 pm
by SHARPETOYS
The color does not hold and when you brush it the fur comes off. The felt is so cheap it cracks where you crease it Nothing about the hat supports its price point. I've seen the same hat on Ebay several times and nary a bid.

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:44 pm
by binkmeisterRick
I saw and handled a new Borsalino when Minnesota drove through town earlier this week and thought the felt was superb! What didn't you like about yours? But if you weren't happy with it, fair is fair. All that matters is that YOU like the hat you want on your head! Shoot, Minnesota's fur felt Dorfman wasn't even all that bad for what it is! :wink:

EDIT: You posted before I hit the send button! :wink:

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 12:32 pm
by SHARPETOYS
The vintage Borsalinos Felt is fine. Its there new stuff thats not up to par.