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Brand Spankin' new Wested w/ comparison to 6 yr old Lamb

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 5:07 pm
by antiquity collector
My Wested arrived yesterday after placing the order only 2 weeks ago. Talk about fast! And it is just what I asked for. They incorporated everything with the exception of the 2 piece gussets ( they're only 1 piece). But I could care less. It is AMAZING!.

The difference between my new Goat and my 6 year old Lamb is really interesting. Note the extra British flag label on my older Lamb.

Here's what I asked for:

1) Auth. Goat Raiders version
2) back panel to fully extend to sides
3) side straps to have X-BOX pattern (Bill Gates will be sueing us soon for this)
4) shoulder seam 8" as compared to 6.85" listed on sit for size 44
5) sleeves a bit longer than my lamb (1/2")
6) Aluminum zip extending to bottom
7) Black sliders
8) on my Lamb the inside pocket was on the inside right breast (why I don't know). It has been switched to the left
9) Cotton body/ satin sleeves (Lamb is all cotton)
10) Back panel to connect higher than sleeve attachment

The action pleats are now much deeper than previous. Extending the back panel helps this and also helps them keep their shape instead of being open.

For some reason they have stitched the back panel to the side panel underneath the side strap attachment. I want to snip this but don't want it coming undone if it's all the same stitching. I'm going to ask Peter why this is done and if cutting it open will do anything negative to the rest of the stitching. The back pael at the bottom should be free to open. See pics close up at side straps.

Here is the main link to all the pics:

http://public.fotki.com/antiquitycollector/wested_pics/

Here's a side by side with the new Goat on the left.

http://public.fotki.com/antiquitycollec ... 00759.html

Here is the back panel difference. 1st one is the Goat, 2nd is the Lamb.

http://public.fotki.com/antiquitycollec ... 00749.html

http://public.fotki.com/antiquitycollec ... 00743.html

New side strap:

http://public.fotki.com/antiquitycollec ... 00751.html

Old side strap. Note the place of attachment at the hand warmer pockets.

http://public.fotki.com/antiquitycollec ... 00744.html

Will be revising this in a bit to add more pics.

I can't seem to get just the pics to show up in the post. Can only get links. Why is that?

AC

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 5:18 pm
by Rixter
I now see what you mean about the back panel fully extended to sides. I always assumed it was on Wested's. Your old jacket looks nearly identical to the way the USWings jacket back panel looks.

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 5:26 pm
by antiquity collector
The new Goat's action pleats are really deep (almost 3") as compared to the older version which you can see are about 1" deep. That's why they always stay open. New one doesn't have that problem.

New jacket does NOT have elastic. It doesn't need it.

AC

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 5:34 pm
by Rixter
Yeah, they don't. You have to drag the URL up to your browser's URL 'Address' for them to appear. It would be better not to have it end in .jpg and just post the URL where the pix reside.

Looks like it's all fixed now! :D

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 5:42 pm
by antiquity collector
The links were working fine a few minutes ago. I don't know what's going on.

AC

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 5:56 pm
by Swindiana
On my ToD auth. goat the panel was extended without asking for it. Maybe this is standard on the Temple jacket :?:
http://medlem.spray.se/larskalvemark/in ... lsmall.jpg

Regards,
Swindiana

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 6:06 pm
by antiquity collector
I think it might be becoming standard on all as it does fix the action pleat problem. And since most of the film jackets were this way it should be. Gives a far superior look to the back shape.

AC

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 11:05 pm
by IndianaGuybrush
Now I see about the back panel, that explains a lot. I think Peter does this now on his standard jackets, as my jacket has it and I didn't request it.

Also, you can cut those stitches between the back flap and the side panels, I have and I actually think it hangs better, and Peter says it doesn't weaken any part of the jacket.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:48 am
by FLATHEAD
Very nice jackets! My Auth Lamb has the back panel all the way out to the
sleeves. I think that Peter does indeed do this now as standard, as I did not
ask for it on my jacket, but it came that way anyway.

Its amazing to me how in pictures, the Auth lamb and goat look alike in
color and drape. If you put my lamb and your goat side by side, I bet
you would not be able to tell them apart just by looking at them. Thats
how good the color matches. Now as soon as you picked them up, well,
thats a different story...

Flathead

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 1:35 pm
by junior
Looks like Peter has fixed a few things. The most noticeable being that it seems he now has directed his staff to make sure the back yoke seam does indeed place it 1" higher than the seam that runs up the sleeve to the shoulder seam.

A very fine looking jacket sir. The goat hide looks very nice.

junior

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 4:15 pm
by antiquity collector
I don't know if Peter has made that standard yet. I specifically asked for it that way as that's how it is on my Lamb which matched film pics.

Hopefully it will be standard from now on if enough people specify it.

AC

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:26 pm
by Indiana Croft
the back yoke seam does indeed place it 1" higher than the seam that runs up the sleeve to the shoulder seam.
What exactly are we talking about here? any pic's. I'm going to be ordering a Wested soon and this sound interesting

Thanks :D

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 7:44 pm
by antiquity collector
The back yoke is the horizontal seam where the bottom and top parts of the back meet. The back of the jacket is in 2 parts. Top part is about 6-8" from the collar followed by the bottom panel.

Where the back pieces meet should be higher than the seam of the 2 halves of the sleeve.

AC

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 11:55 pm
by Captain D
Yes, I "think" raising the back yoke 1" is now standard, for my new "Raiders" style Goatskin came this way n' I didn't request it, which is cool!

Regards,
Captain D

Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 10:31 am
by Swindiana
The yoke 1" raising seems to be standard on the Raiders but not on the Temple then as my seams were in level on the jacket sent back and they wouldn't move it. It would be nice if Peter could fill us in on this. :D

Regards,
Swindiana

Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 2:09 am
by Got Maul
WOW, if this is the NOW standard in that I don't have to request the higher yoke, perfectly placed pockets , wider storm flap, etc. .... Peter has really hit the mark !

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 5:16 am
by Eiti
Your lamb jacket is 6 yrs old ? I own the same . I got it as a gift on Christmas. I know that my jacket was used (but looks new) but i did not know that ist is 6 years old :shock:
Your lamb ist in really good shape for that age !