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Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 10:01 am
by Manwiththehat
Hey.I'm thinking about distressing and dying my Wested Leather goatskin raider jacket to remove some of the greyish tint and I'm looking on Fiebings Pro Dye DARK BROWN dye and Now I'M not sure if dark brown is good or maybe Fiebings Pro Dye DARK CHOCOLATE would be better? Any input would be great :) I don't want it to be too dark so I don't know.Edit: I found a vidoe that shows every colors:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_TZ5EEriGo

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:06 pm
by Manwiththehat
Alright. I acquired Fiebings Pro Dye DARK BROWN dye but I haven't found any tutorials how to use it in weathering/distressing of a leather jacket so I wonder if anyone could explain it to me? Also I got some rubbing alcohol but it smells pretty bad so I wonder if there exist rubbing alcohol without smell. Cheers :)

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:02 pm
by Indiana Jeff
If Indiana Croft doesn’t weigh in, drop him a PM or do a search for his posts on using dye while distressing his jackets.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:45 pm
by Indiana Croft
Just dropping in. :TOH:

My battery is about to die, so real quick.
I distress my jackets slowly, once the grey undertone is revealed, I
I put the dye on a cotton cloth, not alot, just s9me and rub it in.

I have m6 DoD being tweaked, I’ll try to take some pictures of it on the mannequin.

Stay tuned, dropping out……………………. \:D/

Croft :mrgreen:

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 2:46 pm
by Indiana Croft
Dropping back in.

I've always enjoyed the art of distressing my jackets.
Sorry Michaelson. :CR:
And have always said the same thing, less is more, don't try to do to much at once, do a little, wait, do a little more.
I received my S&J DoD jacket couple years now and I'm still tweaking it, see they bottom pic's.
And I'm lucky to have a mannequin to hang it on while I work.

I used a variety of things, but lately 220 grit sand paper (lightly) and scuff pads.
Experiment in place's like I did today, under the pocket where it doesn't show.

Implement's of distressing.
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Before (up towards the top)
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Scuffed, it's sorta tannish brown.
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After applying the dye to a cotton towel, don't forget to use rubber gloves, unless you like brown fingers.
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Now here's a shot from a post, left arm with the repaired bullet hole, S& J distressing while great, it's not what I see in the jacket on the movie, to my eye.
Every thing is more blended.
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Here's with some tweaking. (last summer)
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And here's one from today (nothing done but some tweaking couple weeks ago, not much change.
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And here's some random shots.
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So go slow and relax while doing it, hit the areas that get wear, like seam (be carful here), elbows, cuffs and bottom of the jacket.

Croft :mrgreen:
Research, research, research.

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2025 3:20 pm
by Holt
Great work Croft. Please stop showing your destiny jacket as much as I soon cant resist the urge to get one!!! :whip:

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2025 3:40 pm
by Jonesy Jr.
Yeah Croft, I agree with what Holt said. I want DoD jacket since it was revealed that it have big internal pockets.

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2025 4:28 pm
by Manwiththehat
Cheers for the awesome pictures and instructions Croft :D I'm now even more scared than I was before to try it out my self with my Wested raider goatskin jacket :lol:

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2025 6:18 pm
by Indiana Jeff
Not trying to add to your anxiety, goatskin is the most difficult leather to distress. All the more important to go slow and gentle like Croft suggested.


Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2025 6:48 pm
by Holt
Yeah, I'm with Jeff on that. Goat is one tough mother!

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2025 7:46 pm
by Indiana Croft
Sorry, the DoD is my go to Indy jacket, must be because he was older in DoD and I’m older too, so it just fits.
And not showing it off, ha, this from the guy who drives me nuts with his MotB gear. :rolling:

And goat is tough to distress, so hard as you might, you won’t do to much damage, just go slow my friend.
My first or second :-k Wested was goat, and on slow days at work, I’d take sandpaper to seams and cuffs, people thought I was crazy.
But to me it’s relaxing.
Lamb is the one that distresses the easiest.
So if you getting goat, go slow, no big scratches, but you can blend with acetone.
Experiment with hidden area first.

Look ata other posts and ask your self, is that what I want my jacket to look like.

And relax, it’s just a jacket, one of many to come.

And thanks for the compliments, really liking this jacket.
And Jones, the large internal pocket was only recently discovered, and honestly I think it was put on the jacket for the sole reason for Indy pulling the dial out.
Not sure how it would affect the drape.
It wouldn’t have been an option I’d requested, the gun shot repair was a definite.

Croft :mrgreen:

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:28 pm
by Indiana Croft
I was looking over your thread on what you'd done so far.
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The one picture of the front right pocket (as you look at it), those scratches should blend in nicely with the dye.
Now this is just me and my opinion, but stay away from these kind of distressing, doesn't look like something that might happen naturally.
When you apply the dye, try under the pocket to see what the leather looks like with the dye rubbed in.
On one of my lamb jacket I used a light rubbing over the entire jacket to blend it in.

Those scratches, let those happen naturally of the course of the life of the jacket.
Seams, shoulder and elbows, cuffs and bottom area.
Once you've done that, live in the jacket, see how it looks and tweak as needed.
Are you going to give the jacket the water treatment? helps raise the grain.

Here's a picture of my Cockpit Vintage Roughneck Oil Driller Jacket and this is some tough goat to distress.
My goat leather looks darker than yours or it could be the picture, many types of goat tanning process I guess can make the it look darker, my firts Wested goat was dark like my cockpit.
Hard to see it, but the cuffs and collar area have distressing, but hard to see.
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close up of the shoulder and collar, it's there but hard to see.
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Croft :mrgreen:

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:33 pm
by Manwiththehat
Indiana Croft wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:28 pm I was looking over your thread on what you'd done so far.
viewtopic.php?t=75329

The one picture of the front right pocket (as you look at it), those scratches should blend in nicely with the dye.
Now this is just me and my opinion, but stay away from these kind of distressing, doesn't look like something that might happen naturally.
When you apply the dye, try under the pocket to see what the leather looks like with the dye rubbed in.
On one of my lamb jacket I used a light rubbing over the entire jacket to blend it in.

Those scratches, let those happen naturally of the course of the life of the jacket.
Seams, shoulder and elbows, cuffs and bottom area.
Once you've done that, live in the jacket, see how it looks and tweak as needed.
Are you going to give the jacket the water treatment? helps raise the grain.

Here's a picture of my Cockpit Vintage Roughneck Oil Driller Jacket and this is some tough goat to distress.
My goat leather looks darker than yours or it could be the picture, many types of goat tanning process I guess can make the it look darker, my firts Wested goat was dark like my cockpit.
Hard to see it, but the cuffs and collar area have distressing, but hard to see.
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close up of the shoulder and collar, it's there but hard to see.
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Croft :mrgreen:
That jacket looks very good :D And thanks for the pictures :TOH: I.m not sure If I dare doing the water treatment but I start with the seams and collar and pockets and see how things evolves :) I bought some 100 sandpaper sponge today,might be a bit to rough but I just gonna try gentle and see :)

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:50 pm
by Indiana Croft
Be gentle and you’ll be fine.
And thanks, I like this as my winter jacket.

Croft :mrgreen:

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:46 pm
by Jonesy Jr.
Croft, what is this bulge on jacket collar ?

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:14 pm
by Indiana Croft
Snaps.
This is the jacket that I saw on NCIS, Gibbs wears it later into his run, I saw it and loved it. Had to have it.
But ya, there snaps and they hold down the collar.

Croft :mrgreen:

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 8:19 am
by Jonesy Jr.
Nice, thanks for reply.

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:40 pm
by Manwiththehat
Alright so I slowly starting my distressing with dying :) This is so far.I'm using Q-tips for the seams and edges so I don't spill so much :)

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Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:13 pm
by Indiana Croft
Good start.
Is that white something or just from the camera flash.

Croft :mrgreen:

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:33 am
by Manwiththehat
Indiana Croft wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:13 pm Good start.
Is that white something or just from the camera flash.

Croft :mrgreen:
Thanks :) The white is camera flash yeah :rolling:

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:20 pm
by Manwiththehat
I tried starting on the back.I'm not sure how good it looks thought

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Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:21 pm
by Manwiththehat
So I gave the jacket the water treatment and I had it on me for a couple of hours but now it's getting late here so I came pup with his solution :rolling: Sorry for all the pictures of my journey of weathering :oops:
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Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:12 pm
by Indiana Croft
It is a journey.
If it still kinda blotchy, you may have to commit and rub down the entire jacket with the stain.
Distressing ones jacket is an experiment, if you look around, you see some good and some that went over board.
Don't go over board.

Oh and when you give it the ol water treatment, ya one crinkle up the sleeves, but ya gotta be wearing for awhile while drying.


The grain looks smooth, are you sure its goat. Don't see a lot of grain like my goat.
Here's some that S&J did on my truck chase jacket, I got the sleeves wet, you can see the crinkliness of it. what a word.
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I just looked and I don't have one, but if you need it I can take one and post it.


Croft :mrgreen:

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:54 am
by Manwiththehat
Indiana Croft wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:12 pm It is a journey.
If it still kinda blotchy, you may have to commit and rub down the entire jacket with the stain.
Distressing ones jacket is an experiment, if you look around, you see some good and some that went over board.
Don't go over board.

Oh and when you give it the ol water treatment, ya one crinkle up the sleeves, but ya gotta be wearing for awhile while drying.


The grain looks smooth, are you sure its goat. Don't see a lot of grain like my goat.
Here's some that S&J did on my truck chase jacket, I got the sleeves wet, you can see the crinkliness of it. what a word.
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I just looked and I don't have one, but if you need it I can take one and post it.


Croft :mrgreen:
According to Bearbeast here which I bought it from it supposed to be goat yes.
It's tarting to dry now but I feel the sleeves are a bit to large now

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Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:09 am
by Indiana Croft
How’s the blotchness now.
And water treat makes the jacket a little more aged, lived in.

Now if you have to use the dye (not stain #-o ) all over, use the it in a fashion lie your wiping it on in small amounts, not heavy like.
Rub it in like, it’ll darken up some to, not so brown. As the original Raider was a dark brown like.

Croft :mrgreen:

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:59 am
by Manwiththehat
Indiana Croft wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:09 am How’s the blotchness now.
And water treat makes the jacket a little more aged, lived in.

Now if you have to use the dye (not stain #-o ) all over, use the it in a fashion lie your wiping it on in small amounts, not heavy like.
Rub it in like, it’ll darken up some to, not so brown. As the original Raider was a dark brown like.

Croft :mrgreen:
There is some kind of white on the jacket now when it dries which I don't know what is but here is how it looks now.I think I need to weather it more on the arms and front and maybe on the back aswell.PS! Sorry for the blurry pictures :oops:

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Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:04 pm
by Indiana Croft
Well if things don’t improve with out looks to you.
Pecards does make gel in a brown.
I’ve used to help make thing uniform again.

But stay away from scratch like makes, leave those for natural happenings.

Croft :mrgreen:

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:24 am
by Holt
The white spots are the fats in the leather that blooms. This can happen when the leather is soaked and the fats separates. It will get better with time.

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:54 pm
by Manwiththehat
I went over it with rubbing alcohol and I think it actually looks better than it was now :rolling: I don't understand this jackets logic :lol:

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Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:45 pm
by Indiana Croft
Does look great.
Now leave it alone for now, and watch how you wear it, you’ll pick up areas that you might want to hit lateral.
Now wear it and enjoy it.

Now for the next piece of gear, the MKVII bag with the leather strap.

Croft :mrgreen:

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:04 pm
by Manwiththehat
Indiana Croft wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:45 pm Does look great.
Now leave it alone for now, and watch how you wear it, you’ll pick up areas that you might want to hit lateral.
Now wear it and enjoy it.

Now for the next piece of gear, the MKVII bag with the leather strap.

Croft :mrgreen:
Thanks :) I have ordered the MKVII bag with leather strap now so almost there :D

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:39 pm
by Indiana Croft
You’re getting there, can’t wait for the next picture all geared up.

Croft :mrgreen:

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:46 am
by Manwiththehat
Indiana Croft wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:39 pm You’re getting there, can’t wait for the next picture all geared up.

Croft :mrgreen:
Thanks :D A quick question but should I use some leather conditioner on my jacket or can I just leave it as it is? :) I'm afraid that conditioner will darken it so I'm not sure my self.

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:23 pm
by Indiana Croft
Pecards would be the only conditioner I’d use, and yes it’ll darken it, but it will lighten back up after awhile.
Just don’t go overboard.Light coating, let dry awhile.
Then with a white cotton cloth give it a good rub down.

Others might chime in with there two cents.
Me I don’t condition all to often.

Croft :mrgreen:

Re: Thinking of dying/distressing my wested leather jacket

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:22 pm
by Holt
I condition every 5 years or so and when I do its only light coat.

When I first got leather jackets way back in 05 or so I was so afraid for it being ruined, scratched or dry out..

Ahh... if I only knew back then what I know now. The energy and worry I could have spared myself for.. :lol: :lol: