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Got a number 1-8 digits on your Mk VII? Know its history!

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:26 pm
by Swindiana
My Mk VI bag was used by a guy in the Royal Engineers unit.
Bufflehead Jones' new Mk VII bag was in the same unit carried by a guy named J Davies.
:shock:

Locate your number if you have one, in our cases mentioned they are 2275433 and 2211499, and then visit this site in order to know just a little bit more about where your bag has been.

http://www.britishairborne.org/identity.html

EDIT: Ths one should work better http://www.airbornerecce.com/dtroop/tables/anumbers.htm

Pretty cool, huh? :wink:

Please report in with number and unit, adventurers! 8)

Kind regards,
Swindiana

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:56 pm
by IndianaJames
This is so cool! Ill have to check my bags and see if I have a number like that....

I J

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 7:42 am
by Sheffield Jones
My Mk-VII Bag is a Whitlley's,#23154987(Royal Corps of Signals).:D

My Mk-VI Bag is (Unknown),#22984395(Royal Engineers) belonging to W. Christopher,Service#11265552. :D

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:53 am
by Marcus Petrius
I can't make out what the stamps on the inside of the flap say. Is there any other way to make them more readable, different lighting (UV) or anything like that?

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:48 am
by Swindiana
Marcus Petrius wrote:I can't make out what the stamps on the inside of the flap say. Is there any other way to make them more readable, different lighting (UV) or anything like that?
My best tip is to take digital photos under different light conditions of your flap and then use an editing program like Paint shop pro pr Photoshop in order to make it out. (Trace contour and such, or find all edges. You get the idea.)

Thanks Sheffield! I've just started doing some catalogueing, so this is very helpful! :wink:

Regards,
Swindiana

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:38 pm
by IndianaJames
Here we go:

"W & G MK IV" "22724298" - Royal Engineers

my other MK VII "23131854" - Royal Corps of Signals

Interesting, but how did you guys find out the actual person that used the bag? Was the name written on the strap"

I J

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:59 pm
by Bufflehead Jones
Mine was written on the inside of the flap with his serial number.

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:44 am
by Swindiana
IndianaJames wrote: Interesting, but how did you guys find out the actual person that used the bag? Was the name written on the strap
I J
Thanks for the reply!

On a Canadian bag of mine it was written on the strap with white paint and sometimes it is written on the inside of the flap in ink. A Mk VI of mine has a full London address on the small flap. I'm still looking for a way to find the soldiers name easily though. I'm sure it is filed in some archive but it would be great if there were some digital info one could read through. I'll let you know as I move along.

Regards,
Swindiana

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:23 pm
by synasp
egh, I don't get it. :roll:

mine is 22854248 but the numbers dont seem to go up to there, yet some of you have similar numbers. am I just dumb? :lol:

thanks!

David

edit: my other one is 23075126

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:19 pm
by IndianaJames
Dave,
Not at all, your bags are.....

the first is from someone in the Royal Engineers, and your second bag is from the Royal Corps of signals. Hmm. I see a trend here. :?

Regards
James

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:42 pm
by Swindiana
Yes... But David's number has got 8 digits instead of 7. :-k
His 8 digit numbers are not listed although my guess is IJ is right about the origin. I'll mail and ask them! :wink:

Regards,
Swindy

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:39 pm
by synasp
doh! I got funny numbers... ](*,)

could these bags being unissued have anything to do with it? because they're in pristine condition. Zero wear or discoloration on either. Literally the only thing I can notice that doesn't make these mint, is that on one bag, the left button has a scuff on it--probably due to storage. maybe these bags were never issued, so the numbers never got registered? I've no go idea... :?

thanks for the help guys!

David

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:52 pm
by Swindiana
Does it have the Broad Arrow on it? If not and there are other stamps and it is mint; it is unissued.

Regards,
Swindiana

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:49 pm
by Trevelyan
OK, here's some more info for the bag research. None of my MK VII's have any numbers on them, and the inside of one of the flaps is completely worn out. However, all three have names on the straps. Here's the pics. I'm not sure why the last one is so yellow. I guess a basement's not the best place to take pictures :roll:

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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:34 am
by synasp
Swindiana wrote:Does it have the Broad Arrow on it? If not and there are other stamps and it is mint; it is unissued.
oh, there goes that theory then. :roll: one has a 25 with arrow pointing up, and one has 22 with arrow.... what's that mean? :D

thanks!

David

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:09 am
by Swindiana
The bottom of this site explains it all:
http://www.britishairborne.org/enfield.html

Regards,
Swindiana

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:05 am
by Pyroxene
Swindiana wrote:The bottom of this site explains it all:
http://www.britishairborne.org/enfield.html

Regards,
Swindiana
It says "Best viewed in 860x600 on Internet Explorer" I don't get it. :?:


Just kidding....That's a cool site. Thanks for the link.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:16 am
by Indiana Texas-girl
Swindiana wrote:Does it have the Broad Arrow on it? If not and there are other stamps and it is mint; it is unissued.

Regards,
Swindiana
So if it has a broad arrow, it's issued.
And if it doesn't have a broad arrow, it's unissued?

Just wanna make sure I'm reading you right.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:07 am
by Swindiana
So if it has a broad arrow, it's issued.
Yes. I believe some of the issued ones perhaps was never used in the war though as there are mint bags out there that have them. The broad arrow indicates that it was marked as OK by the government to be used as war material.
And if it doesn't have a broad arrow, it's unissued?
Correct. :wink: Some of the stamps may have faded on the issued bags through wear and tear though and in most cases the broad arrow stamp seem to have been made with an ink of lesser quality than the manufacturer stamp. The conclusion must be: If you have a mint bag with no arrow -your bag was never issued.

A bit confusing... I know. :roll: :D

Regards,
Swindiana

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:01 pm
by synasp
any news on the 8-digit thing? I'm very curious. :D

thanks!

David

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:23 pm
by Swindiana
Nothing yet. ASAP, I'll let you know. :)

Regards,
Swindiana

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:18 am
by synasp
mep! anything now? :D

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:36 am
by Swindiana
I can't get a reply from them. :( The quest goes on. I know of a few others that should have an answer.

Regards,
Swindiana

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:44 am
by Swindiana
*BUMP*

New location since the old one seems to be down:

http://www.airbornerecce.com/dtroop/tables/anumbers.htm

No sign of yours though, David. :(

Regards,
Swindiana

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:19 am
by Alabama Jones
Thanks for the info Swindiana!