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The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:25 pm
by Stefan Hills
In honor of our favorite fictional archeologist’s birthday, I thought it was appropriate share a little something I have been working on for a while and that is...

Something that really stood out to me was when Indy was fighting General Vorgel on the tank, he seems to have had time to change his tan web belt to brown like in Raider’s and Temple. This made me think, if he had time to change his jacket too.
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It been well established that Temple jackets were used for stunt work on Last Crusade. But it appears both Vic and Harrison wore a Hero jacket during the filming of this sequence. Below is Vic and Jordi, in screen used Temple Jackets. Note the brown web belts which was part of the costume for Raider’s and Temple.
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And sure enough, there was a second “Tank Jacket” as worn by Vic Armstrong in the Last Crusade.
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And the one at the Smithsonian...
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Makes me think of the line...”Small world Dr Jones, too small for two of us.” At least now, both jackets are in two museums.

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:47 am
by CM
That's interesting too. I didn't know about the Temple jackets being used. Did any of them make it back to the Archives after all that destructive stunt work?

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:35 am
by Indiego Jones
Dear friend, thank you so much for sharing!!!
You are a true detective in Indy jackets! :clap: :clap:
Best regards.- :TOH:

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:49 am
by The Character
Lovely work!

Just as an aside ... thats not Harrison Ford and Vic Armstrong in the photo above. Its Vic Armstrong and the Spanish Stuntman (who’s name ive completely forgotten) but its in the book so can check be checked.

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:51 am
by Stefan Hills
CM wrote:That's interesting too. I didn't know about the Temple jackets being used. Did any of them make it back to the Archives after all that destructive stunt work?
The short answer is yes. There are survivors in the archives. The best example of a TOD jacket being used in LC is the Anthony Powell jacket which was given to Noel Howard seen in the post being held by Peter.
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The same jacket worn by stunt men Jordi Casares.
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These jackets were reused and even still have labels with word “Doubles” written over the original Berman’s label for Harrison.

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:34 am
by Stefan Hills
Indiego Jones wrote:Dear friend, thank you so much for sharing!!!
You are a true detective in Indy jackets! :clap: :clap:
Best regards.- :TOH:
Many thanks sir!

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:27 pm
by whiskyman
Still chuffed I had the chance to try on that TOD/LC stunt jacket when it was owned by Noel Howerd at MBA costumes!

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:51 am
by CM
Stefan Hills wrote:
CM wrote:That's interesting too. I didn't know about the Temple jackets being used. Did any of them make it back to the Archives after all that destructive stunt work?
The short answer is yes. There are survivors in the archives. The best example of a TOD jacket being used in LC is the Anthony Powell jacket which was given to Noel Howard seen in the post being held by Peter.
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The same jacket worn by stunt men Jordi Casares.
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These jackets were reused and even still have labels with word “Doubles” written over the original Berman’s label for Harrison.
I remember that jacket well and have a version of it. Wow.

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:19 pm
by Stefan Hills
Harrison and Vic wearing the same Hero jacket...the same jacket in the Smithsonian.
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Steven wearing the Second Tank jacket worn by Vic as well.
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Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:47 pm
by CM
Cool. I always wondered if Steven had his own version or if he just got cold and put on a costume jacket.

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:52 pm
by Hammerklavier
The leather looks really thick and substantial, don't know which maker has same kind of leather.....

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:06 am
by CM
Hammerklavier wrote:The leather looks really thick and substantial, don't know which maker has same kind of leather.....
Well, from the recent threads here its clear the leather was around 0.08mm - not thick at all and it seems our friends at Steel and Jones are sourcing something close. It really always amazes me how substantial the LC jacket looks - the tanning process gave that sheepskin a real deceptive look to it. I have yet to see a hide that looks like it has the same stiffness as the movie version which has minimal drape and doesn't seem to wrinkle much.

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:56 pm
by xmasters
Bill Kelso have the correct leather, it's a slightly stiff lambskin, that breaks in quickly and gives that look that you see in the movie.

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:46 pm
by Hammerklavier
xmasters wrote:Bill Kelso have the correct leather, it's a slightly stiff lambskin, that breaks in quickly and gives that look that you see in the movie.
Do you have one or any picture of actual jacket? Thanks

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:10 am
by xmasters
I posted a picture in the BK thread or you can see pictures of the undistressed jacket on the BK website.

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:38 pm
by Hammerklavier
xmasters wrote:I posted a picture in the BK thread or you can see pictures of the undistressed jacket on the BK website.
You mean relic hunter? I want to see BK's LC jacket.

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:34 pm
by Indiego Jones
Hammerklavier wrote:The leather looks really thick and substantial, don't know which maker has same kind of leather.....
At S&J we have the most accurate LC leather.

In Indy's words:
Elsa: Are you sure?
Indy: Pretty sure

We've the privilege of studying the Smithsonian jacket in person
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This "Second tank jacket" was made with the same leather batch as the one in he Smithsonian vault.

Best regards.-

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:26 pm
by xmasters
Hammerklavier wrote:
xmasters wrote:I posted a picture in the BK thread or you can see pictures of the undistressed jacket on the BK website.
You mean relic hunter? I want to see BK's LC jacket.
Yes I posted it in there, as I said.

Re: The Second Tank Jacket...

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:47 am
by Captain D
Fantastic research - well done! :tup: :tup: I always liked Vic Armstrong as Ford's double & thank you for sharing the pics!