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Hello, I present to everyone, with Diego and Roberto's permission, the new Cazadora 38 screen-accurate jacket:

The jacket is the same Last Crusade by S&J but in lambskin identical to the original leather of the film: color, texture, grain and thickness (0,8 - 1 mm).
- Leather is not weighty, although it feels strong and consistent, it has no tendency to wrinkle.
- Keeps hardware and interior lining identical.
- The measurements, identical to the Harrison Ford jacket, which matches my measurements, being a 1:1 copy of the screen jacket used.
A perfect job, in detail, taking care of every seam, material choice and measurements. Congratulations to Diego and Roberto¡¡
I must say that it´s the jacket I've been looking for for more than 20 years. At last!
It's fair to add that it´s the best replica I have seen of an Indy Jacket LC. It's the best leather in terms of similar to what we see on screen, in addition: the most comfortable jacket I have ever had of all Indy Jacket in my life. I fallen in love to this leather.
Seen how the S&J Last Crusade jackets fits, I doubt a lot about the pattern of other brands (I don't want to mention), neck, back panels, pockets ... nothing has to do with what you see on the screen if you purchased other brands. Steele and Jones jackets is a exact replica.
Any questions, clarification, doubt, I'm happy to answer.



Steele & Jones jacket (another pic) Vs Smithsonian jacket


Another light shade


















Regards!

Dear friend, thank you so much for this review and pictures
ENJOY IT!!!
Cheers.-

Sweet! Great job, S&J!

Looks amazing! It always bugged me how the pull straps were split down the middle on the movie jackets, as opposed to neatly folding & sewing the halves per the modern Indy jacket style.

Thanks for posting these photos - looking forward to my own S&J Cazadora 38 due at the end of November. Also got the SA lambskin distressed. Post a few photos of the jacket on if you have chance.

We thank our friend IndyAl for the excelent review. It helps to other fans to see our latest offerings.

Among the new offerings, is this "Chocolate Lambskin"
The most screen-accurate LC leather replica.....ever available....from any vendor. Past or present.
Of course, all the other components of the jacket are accurate too.
Basically....THIS IS IT.

We still have to make the announcement.....too many balls in the air this days...

Cheers.-

Indiego Jones wrote:We thank our friend IndyAl for the excelent review. It helps to other fans to see our latest offerings.

The pleasure is mine, nothing to thank me, thank to you. So, you know that I have been looking for this jacket for years.

That is one of the best LC reproductions I have seen. It has the movie jacket vide most of them don't have. It would be interesting to see it worn. Only issues I see with a quick look - the pocket flap stitching, where the pocket is stitched to the jacket, the seam piping is wider and the collar seems a bit slimmer, but perhaps some age and folding will relax that collar. Nice work.

CM wrote:That is one of the best LC reproductions I have seen. It has the movie jacket vide most of them don't have. It would be interesting to see it worn. Only issues I see with a quick look - the pocket flap stitching, where the pocket is stitched to the jacket, the seam piping is wider and the collar seems a bit slimmer, but perhaps some age and folding will relax that collar. Nice work.

Please, can you be a bit more clear about those discrepancies you think you see.
I think I don't quite follow you.

Because:

* Stitchings (pockets, flaps, sleeves, everything) are the same as in the original jacket. Inside and outside construction.
* Collar is exact replica as in the original jacket. Measurements and construction. Not slimmer or wider, it's identical.

Regards.-

Indiego Jones wrote:

CM wrote:That is one of the best LC reproductions I have seen. It has the movie jacket vide most of them don't have. It would be interesting to see it worn. Only issues I see with a quick look - the pocket flap stitching, where the pocket is stitched to the jacket, the seam piping is wider and the collar seems a bit slimmer, but perhaps some age and folding will relax that collar. Nice work.

Please, can you be a bit more clear about those discrepancies you think you see.
I think I don't quite follow you.

Because:

* Stitchings (pockets, flaps, sleeves, everything) are the same as in the original jacket. Inside and outside construction.
* Collar is exact replica as in the original jacket. Measurements and construction. Not slimmer or wider, it's identical.

Regards.-

I thought I was pretty clear. Apologies. Look at the seam across the top of the pocket flaps. On the copy it is very pronounced, like piping. On the original it is hardly there. Not a big deal but I have seen this on a few copies. Actually my original Wested LC which was wrong in so many ways got this detail right. The collar looks smaller but I take it this is just because it hasn't relaxed yet.

Wow this looks absolutely incredible! I love my 2018 S&J ‘38 but man I may have to add this to my Indy closet in the new year!

CM wrote:

Indiego Jones wrote:

CM wrote:That is one of the best LC reproductions I have seen. It has the movie jacket vide most of them don't have. It would be interesting to see it worn. Only issues I see with a quick look - the pocket flap stitching, where the pocket is stitched to the jacket, the seam piping is wider and the collar seems a bit slimmer, but perhaps some age and folding will relax that collar. Nice work.

Please, can you be a bit more clear about those discrepancies you think you see.
I think I don't quite follow you.

Because:

* Stitchings (pockets, flaps, sleeves, everything) are the same as in the original jacket. Inside and outside construction.
* Collar is exact replica as in the original jacket. Measurements and construction. Not slimmer or wider, it's identical.

Regards.-

I thought I was pretty clear. Apologies. Look at the seam across the top of the pocket flaps. On the copy it is very pronounced, like piping. On the original it is hardly there. Not a big deal but I have seen this on a few copies. Actually my original Wested LC which was wrong in so many ways got this detail right. The collar looks smaller but I take it this is just because it hasn't relaxed yet.

We are talking here about 1 mm more and less. In my opinion this difference improves in that the seam captures the two pieces of the pocket flap more securely. In more than one Wested jacket the unseen part of the flap of my pocket was torn off because this seam was narrow. It will happen to you if it is too narrow. Diego, this must remain so for security.
The neck is a vision of position in the photo and stiffness of unused leather.

of you wearing that nice jacket

IndyAl wrote:

CM wrote:

Indiego Jones wrote:

CM wrote:That is one of the best LC reproductions I have seen. It has the movie jacket vide most of them don't have. It would be interesting to see it worn. Only issues I see with a quick look - the pocket flap stitching, where the pocket is stitched to the jacket, the seam piping is wider and the collar seems a bit slimmer, but perhaps some age and folding will relax that collar. Nice work.

Please, can you be a bit more clear about those discrepancies you think you see.
I think I don't quite follow you.

Because:

* Stitchings (pockets, flaps, sleeves, everything) are the same as in the original jacket. Inside and outside construction.
* Collar is exact replica as in the original jacket. Measurements and construction. Not slimmer or wider, it's identical.

Regards.-

I thought I was pretty clear. Apologies. Look at the seam across the top of the pocket flaps. On the copy it is very pronounced, like piping. On the original it is hardly there. Not a big deal but I have seen this on a few copies. Actually my original Wested LC which was wrong in so many ways got this detail right. The collar looks smaller but I take it this is just because it hasn't relaxed yet.

We are talking here about 1 mm more and less. In my opinion this difference improves in that the seam captures the two pieces of the pocket flap more securely. In more than one Wested jacket the unseen part of the flap of my pocket was torn off because this seam was narrow. It will happen to you if it is too narrow. Diego, this must remain so for security.
The neck is a vision of position in the photo and stiffness of unused leather.

No. I had a Wested LC that had the original pocket seam and it took a lot of punishment. There was no tear or problem. Besides if they are asking for feedback then this is what I see. Whether a jacket is stronger with changes is not the point. We are talking about a reproduction. I personally don't care if the seam is different as the jacket is very, very good. But it was a difference that I stood out for me, banal and trivial though this difference may be.

Garrett wrote:

of you wearing that nice jacket

I've used it for a few days, but the heat has returned. I promise photos when the weather is cooler.

CM wrote: No. I had a Wested LC that had the original pocket seam and it took a lot of punishment. There was no tear or problem. Besides if they are asking for feedback then this is what I see. Whether a jacket is stronger with changes is not the point. We are talking about a reproduction. I personally don't care if the seam is different as the jacket is very, very good. But it was a difference that I stood out for me, banal and trivial though this difference may be.

Of course comments are welcome, it’s a small and nothing significant. Even the jackets of the film were different between them. The reverse pocket flap (no front) was separated from back in two Wested for rushing this seam and making it very small. 1 mm more would have ensured. Of course, only one pocket, the other not in both jackets. I mean only the part of the horizontal seam, and 1” aprox separated, not complete.
Regards

You're right the jackets did vary. I actually think the Wested seam may have been a different way of attaching the pocket flap. It is unfinished at the top and not piped. Some of the pre 2002 jackets I saw had that method of attachment - I don't think it was anything to do with being in a hurry.

But anyway - I really like the pocket flap shape. No one has been able to get it quite right until now. Interesting that it should be so hard to do.

The LC jacket I had from Wested 15 or so years back had very shallow pocket flaps (basically a Raiders flap) and it wasn't scalloped it had a straight edge more like a triangle. I was really disappointed.

CM wrote:You're right the jackets did vary. I actually think the Wested seam may have been a different way of attaching the pocket flap. It is unfinished at the top and not piped. Some of the pre 2002 jackets I saw had that method of attachment - I don't think it was anything to do with being in a hurry.

I wanted to remember that, I had a 2007 Wested jacket that the reverse flap didn't reach the seam, it was shorter, but it is a vague memory and I'm not 100% sure.

I attach photos with the jacket, so it fits:

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Looks great, thanks for posting.

What does pricing come to for this SA Lamb version?

IndyAl wrote:I attach photos with the jacket, so it fits:

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Are you happy with how it fits?

CM wrote:
Are you happy with how it fits?

Very happy. It’s the third day of use and is already losing stiffness and adapting to my body. It’s the most comfortable jacket I have had despite being brand new and being a bit "hard" yet.

Ark101 wrote:What does pricing come to for this SA Lamb version?

Diego quoted me $500 with 50% due upfront. Current lead time was 60 days as of October 1st. Price included shipping and distressing. A great deal IMHO. Mine should be ready November 30th and I’m really looking forward to it.


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Garrett wrote:

Ark101 wrote:What does pricing come to for this SA Lamb version?

Diego quoted me $500 with 50% due upfront. Current lead time was 60 days as of October 1st. Price included shipping and distressing. A great deal IMHO. Mine should be ready November 30th and I’m really looking forward to it.


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I wait for an order by the end of November too.
The waiting times for me will be more than 60 days on this occasion, I imagine that for some logistics or material issue.

Some more photos after a few more hours of use. Adapted to my body perfectly.

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https://i.imgur.com/JMhRQvV.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://i.imgur.com/bVCdvCA.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Dude, that looks really good!

Charybdis wrote:Dude, that looks really good!

Thank you! 20 years looking for this jacket and finally found! I feel it is the only real LC, the other jackets I have had aren't a LC: neck, back ... leather... This yes! Thanks to SJ¡

Congratulations on a beautiful jacket. With regards to the collar, in order to avoid any discrepancies with to the shape and width, the pattern was made by directly tracing the collar from the screen used “Tank” jacket in the Smithsonian.

Wear it in the best of health,

Stefan

Stefan Hills wrote:Congratulations on a beautiful jacket. With regards to the collar, in order to avoid any discrepancies with to the shape and width, the pattern was made by directly tracing the collar from the screen used “Tank” jacket in the Smithsonian.

Wear it in the best of health,

Stefan

As we know from this crazy hobby 'exact' patterns don't always end up corresponding exactly to the completed jacket (things get lost in translation) but I am willing to accept that this is the most accurate version of the style we have yet seen.

Stefan Hills wrote:Congratulations on a beautiful jacket. With regards to the collar, in order to avoid any discrepancies with to the shape and width, the pattern was made by directly tracing the collar from the screen used “Tank” jacket in the Smithsonian.

Wear it in the best of health,

Stefan

Thank you Stefan! The neck is 100% screen-accurate. In the pics you can see a bottom-up perspective when the camera is in a low position, at the height of my waist.
When you wear it it looks like on the screen jacket, they don't look like other oversized necks from other manufacturers, which make them 1/2 inch wider and longer
I've always thought that the neck on other brands were big fox ears, now it's the right one.

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I find it curious how a perfect and proportional neck is "questioned" and the oversized necks (peak finishes ... strange shapes) of other brands have never been questioned. I don't know, I've never seen a neck as faithful as this. If the neck is slightly bent (the leather is softer but still a bit stiff), it is 100% identical to the photo of the Smithsonian Jacket.)
Left Smithsonian jacket/ Right S&J.


Obviously it's impossible to find two identical manufactured (hand made) products, even cutting the leather of the same template can vary from one cut to another ... but if you doubt, something closer to this impossible jacket, not only in shape and size, in leather and color.
Believe me I've had more than 20 jackets: Wested (Hero, no hero, LC. CS), Tony Nowak (CS and LC copy)... models, leathers, shapes, adjustments ... whenever an attempt has been made to make an LC, it has been a crude attempt.... none has looked like this.

IndyAl can you post more pictures of your jacket? How has it broken in? I can’t see the pictures from your previous posts for some reason. Thanks

Obersalzberg wrote:IndyAl can you post more pictures of your jacket? How has it broken in? I can’t see the pictures from your previous posts for some reason. Thanks

Hi! Try again:

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https://i.imgur.com/5Si2iOt.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://i.imgur.com/JMhRQvV.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://i.imgur.com/bVCdvCA.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://i.imgur.com/WARjEhZ.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://i.imgur.com/KwymkFc.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nice Jacket! ... that looks superb I have to say. Well done.

its amazing how much better the jacket looks when the skin has more natural undertones. the collar was not oversized, but appears that way, due to collar roll with the collar stand.

Yesterday I ordered mine . So look for picture as soon as it comes in

You have chosen .... wisely!

Well done sire .. well done indeed!

Just received my new cazadora 38 smithsonian in lamb. It’s awesome! Perfect fitting, wonderful leather and details.. seems to have the screen used jacket in my hands. Hats off to Diego and Steele&Jones!

Great!
Thanks for posting!
Best regards.-

Looks awesome! Congrats.

Well while the LC has never figured to a jacket in my collection.
But if it ever did, there’s only one vendor I’d even consider.
And that’s S&J
There attention to the details to make your jacket the jacket you see on screen and always wish you could find some way to sneak it out from under Spielberg/Lucas.
Well there the ones who can make it happen.

All these jackets look awsome, I love see any post that has their name in it, never saw a jacket review where someone wasn’t happy.

They do awesome work.

Croft

Well, now I know my next jacket. Looks phenomenal! Wear in good health!

That's really a gorgeous jacket! Probably one of the best LCs I've ever seen (if not the best!).

The jacket in full gear is gorgeous!

We need to teach you to rotate your pic's I get a neck ache looking at them.
But that looks awesome in full gear.

Croft

Indiana Croft wrote:We need to teach you to rotate your pic's I get a neck ache looking at them.
But that looks awesome in full gear.

Croft

And make them bigger. I'm sure there is a lot of awesome details we can't see in these tiny thumbnails