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SA Whip Options
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:05 am
by IndyFan89
I’m looking to get an SA Raiders Whip and I’m wondering, in your opinion, what’s the best one to get? I want the closest thing to what David Morgan would of made for Raiders in the 80’s.
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Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:57 am
by whipwarrior
Giovanni Celeste makes film-specific Indy whips, and unlike many whip makers out there, he is still accepting orders. I'm presently in the queue for a deluxe Mask of Zorro bullwhip from him. Check out his website:
http://giovanniceleste.it/en/catalog/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:10 pm
by Mulceber
Not sure what the status is on him, but I’ve always been awed by Bernardo Del Carpio’s whips:
http://delcarpiowhips.com/
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:19 pm
by Cajunkraut
+1 for Del Carpio.
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:29 pm
by IndyFan89
whipwarrior wrote:Giovanni Celeste makes film-specific Indy whips, and unlike many whip makers out there, he is still accepting orders. I'm presently in the queue for a deluxe Mask of Zorro bullwhip from him. Check out his website:
http://giovanniceleste.it/en/catalog/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What’s wait times like?
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Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:13 pm
by whipwarrior
I placed my order (and paid) back in May, and Gio said it was about 3 months queue time until he could work on my whip. I e-mailed him last month for an update and he replied that it should be made sometime in October, so realistically I'll probably receive the whip in early November. So, it's a few months, depending how many orders are ahead of yours.
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:04 pm
by IndyFan89
I almost want to get a used whip that’s well broke in and already distressed looking.
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Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:08 pm
by whipwarrior
That would be the faster option, if you want to obtain a whip more quickly. Just have to shop around for it.
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:33 am
by bearbeast
whipwarrior wrote:I placed my order (and paid) back in May, and Gio said it was about 3 months queue time until he could work on my whip. I e-mailed him last month for an update and he replied that it should be made sometime in October, so realistically I'll probably receive the whip in early November. So, it's a few months, depending how many orders are ahead of yours.
Heh, Whipwarrior! I talked to Gio on Friday, because I also have a pending order. I think yours must be one of the three whips i am queued behind.
Still, Gio's waiting times are shorter than other whipmakers...
Anyway, I hope you will take some pics when you receive yours and post them here. I really love the new Zorro movies. Well, 'newest'...
Cheers,
Bear
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:45 am
by whipwarrior
Bear, here is the last e-mail Gio wrote me (August 28th):
Hello Dale,
I've checked your status. There is another four whips that precede your whip:
8ft raiders style
7ft snake
4 ft bullwhip
4 ft bullwhip
I think your whip will be ready in October. Anyway, I'll let you know when I start!
Best,
Gio
Yes, I will definitely post pics and a review of the new Zorro bullwhip once it lands.
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:24 pm
by bearbeast
whipwarrior wrote:Bear, here is the last e-mail Gio wrote me (August 28th):
Hello Dale,
I've checked your status. There is another four whips that precede your whip:
8ft raiders style
7ft snake
4 ft bullwhip
4 ft bullwhip
I think your whip will be ready in October. Anyway, I'll let you know when I start!
Best,
Gio
Yes, I will definitely post pics and a review of the new Zorro bullwhip once it lands.
Hmmm, mine is supposed to be a 10 feet, Last Crusade. So I am after you in the queue.
I have waited about 25 years for my first real leather whip, so I am in no hurry. A few more weeks I can definitely wait!!
My best,
Bear
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:52 pm
by whipwarrior
I picked up my first whip about 23 years ago: a cheap 4-plait red & white checkered cowhide bullwhip with a wooden swivel handle, purchased for $30 at a farm and ranch supply store in Louisiana. Then I was throwing my first David Morgan Indy just four years later. If it's not made of leather, then it's not a real whip, as I've often said. Personally, I wouldn't be caught dead with a nylon paracord whip (aka - glorified jump rope). Trust me, once you've enjoyed a quality kangaroo whip, nothing else compares.
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:02 pm
by bearbeast
whipwarrior wrote:I picked up my first whip about 23 years ago: a cheap 4-plait red & white checkered cowhide bullwhip with a wooden swivel handle, purchased for $30 at a farm and ranch supply store in Louisiana. Then I was throwing my first David Morgan Indy just four years later. If it's not made of leather, then it's not a real whip, as I've often said. Personally, I wouldn't be caught dead with a nylon paracord whip (aka - glorified jump rope). Trust me, once you've enjoyed a quality kangaroo whip, nothing else compares.
I cannot wait to get it! To see how it rolls out and how (I am guessing) it smells. I love leather stuff in general.
So far I have only played around with paracord ones I have made myself (and still make them). It has been a nice cheap substitute, but I am sure you are completely right. Cannot beat roo leather.
In the future, if money allows, I might try my hand at making a leather one. But it is an expensive hobby...
Cheers,
Bear
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:30 pm
by whipwarrior
Kangaroo leather is magnificent, and it's one of my favorite scents in the world. It has a curiously sweetish smell that is wholly unique to kangaroo, but unfortunately fades too quickly. The odor of fresh kangaroo hide has the addictive effect of prompting more whip purchases to enjoy the scent again. It's a gateway drug - and an expensive one at that!
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:42 pm
by bearbeast
Oh, man.... Now I am even more excited!
My "to buy" gear list is already long and expensive. If I will want multiple whips in addition... Phew, RIP my budget!
And I do have an addictive personality. It is the collectors trait... Always the excitement of a new purchase, the wait and finally the unwrapping of the new acquisition.
Better start saving, I guess...
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:19 pm
by whipwarrior
Saying that Indy gear is an expensive hobby is the understatement of the year, but thanks to the multitude of vendors, there's an Indy item for every budget. It all depends on what you're willing to spend. Suffice it to say, the bullwhip is probably the most expensive item of the lot, alongside genuine Alden boots. Thankfully, much of the gear today is infinitely more screen accurate than the offerings 20 years ago. You can literally cherry pick the gear that most appeals to your sense of Indy style. Enjoy the thrill of the hunt!
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:16 pm
by RayROnline
Mulceber wrote:Not sure what the status is on him, but I’ve always been awed by Bernardo Del Carpio’s whips:
http://delcarpiowhips.com/
He was apprenticed by Morgan and knows his stuff. But be prepared to pay top dollar and wait a lot longer than his quote.
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:13 am
by Jeremiah
I didn’t have to wait longer than his quote.
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:44 am
by bearbeast
Hmmm, Whipwarrior... Well, the whip I already have (well, will have...). If I will want more than one, then: "Here I gooo, spending again!"
The other expensive piece of gear is The Fedora... Except the Akubra, most manufacturers have them starting from $350... up to $700, even $1000.
I wouldn't have expected the hat to be among the most expensive items to get.
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:45 am
by whipwarrior
I had the exact same thought back in the late 90's. It was amazing to think that a fedora could cost more than a custom-made Wested leather jacket - but it
does!
Last year I bought a very nice custom
Raiders hat in 100% beaver from AdVintage Hats in Germany, and it was the same price as the factory HJ Poet I bought back in the day. A quality fedora that won't break the bank - yet still costs a bit more than a fine leather jacket. Some things never change.
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:41 am
by bearbeast
Wooow, WW! Thank you for the info. I did not know about AdVintage Hats.
It is way easier for me to buy from inside Europe. The shipping + taxes of ordering from the US or Australia would be too much.
The hats look great!
Cheers,
Bear
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:53 pm
by whipwarrior
The wait time for AdVintage is a few months, based on my experience. I placed my order last year in February, and received the hat in May (about 4 months total, depending on the queue). Excellent customer service, and a
very fine quality hat.
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:05 pm
by bearbeast
Hmmm, it would seem they have some models ready to ship:
https://i.imgur.com/KVgyhqz.jpg
But even waiting would not be a problem.
Anyway there is quite a while until I can gather some funds for new acquisitions.
But I am extremely excited to have found this european retailer!
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:32 pm
by IndyFan89
Anyone have any experience with the trinity whip company? I think I’m gonna go for a darker whip closer to what we see in LC. Ultimately I’ve always wanted a David Morgan but it doesn’t look like they offer darker colors.
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Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:24 pm
by Tyrloch
Blake from Trinity Whip Co. makes some fine whips. I own 7 of his with an 8th due to arrive tomorrow. His whips handle very nicely, and he's very open to working off your personal specs. And his wait times are usually not terribly long.
Re: SA Whip Options
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:10 pm
by IndyFan89
Tyrloch wrote:Blake from Trinity Whip Co. makes some fine whips. I own 7 of his with an 8th due to arrive tomorrow. His whips handle very nicely, and he's very open to working off your personal specs. And his wait times are usually not terribly long.
Thanks for he info!
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