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COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:58 pm
by RayROnline
I love TODDS stuff. I have 8 Coyles shirts and I wear them a lot as everyday shirts.

That said I have discovered a serious problem with the latest batch. I will note that I think the latest are his best color and cut so far, with only the buttons being too pearly. Now, I always have my shirts laundered. Just cleaned and pressed, no starch. I have had these laundered for many years, always in fact. I have never had a problem with any ones Indy shirt doing this until now. (see photo)

See the tips of the collar? This is not a burn as it seams, but is adhesive (glue) melting through during pressing. I had this happen with 2 linnen shirts years ago and I thought it was a burn so I changed cleaners. This happened to my new edition TODDS, so I bought another one.

This is the "other" one :(

The glue melts through during pressing. Me cleaners explained this detail. The sad part is I am about to have another shirt ruined that I dropped off the other day (before getting this one back). I won't buy any more until there is a new batch. If you own this shirt I strongly suggest that you DO NOT have it pressed!

It is still a wonderful shirt, just don't "press your luck"

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Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:33 pm
by Adventure Dog
Woah! Huge bummer! I've heard of people removing wax from shirts using an iron, any chance you can coax out the glue with an iron? I am speaking from zero experience of glue and clothing of course.

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:56 pm
by RayROnline
Adventure Dog wrote:Woah! Huge bummer! I've heard of people removing wax from shirts using an iron, any chance you can coax out the glue with an iron? I am speaking from zero experience of glue and clothing of course.
I doubt it. The cleaners took it back (first time) and tried their best, but no love. It is not just a spot, it is solid, like dried glue. Its inside the layers.
If someone figures out a solution, please let me know! Meanwhile, I have 2 more garage/yard work shirts.

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:13 pm
by Dr._J
That's probably why Indy never had his shirts (or anything else) pressed. ;)

Still, sorry for you that this happened.

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:41 pm
by WConly
Ok! Perhaps, I am just stupid here -- but what glue? I have never heard of shirts having glue in them. Is this an 'add-on,' if you will to keep the stiches in place? Or what? I have ironed my shirts from Todd's before and never run across this issue, or with any other shirt -- expensive, or otherwise, and found this problem. Seriously, please provide an answer for me here, as this is the first time I have ever heard of glue being used in shirts. Thanks, in advance. W>

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:28 am
by RayROnline
WConly wrote:Ok! Perhaps, I am just stupid here -- but what glue? I have never heard of shirts having glue in them. Is this an 'add-on,' if you will to keep the stiches in place? Or what? I have ironed my shirts from Todd's before and never run across this issue, or with any other shirt -- expensive, or otherwise, and found this problem. Seriously, please provide an answer for me here, as this is the first time I have ever heard of glue being used in shirts. Thanks, in advance. W>
I had never heard of it either. I am sharing the reason I was given(by the manager at the cleaners) for my 2 new TODDS (and previously 2 nice linen white) shirts did this. The linen shirts also did this on the cuff tips. I was told there is some form of adhesive that responded to the heat during pressing.

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:22 am
by youngjedi71
eh..i just throw my TODDS in the washer and dryer..not issues other than losing a couple buttons.

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:52 am
by Charybdis
Is this just a hot pressing or could it be something with the chemicals used in the dry cleaning process?? Very strange that there would be glue in the collar points...

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:52 pm
by Obi Sean Kenobi
"interfacing", a gauzy material often inserted in collars and cuffs between the layers of fabric, can be adhered using adhesives. Thats probably what this is.

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:35 pm
by WConly
Obi Sean Kenobi wrote:"interfacing", a gauzy material often inserted in collars and cuffs between the layers of fabric, can be adhered using adhesives. Thats probably what this is.
Ok...I'll buy this. This makes sense. I didn't consider the 'interfacing' possibility, however I still find it odd for this to occur. W>

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:37 pm
by Bruce Wayne
It appears that the collar stays melted.

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:29 pm
by Adventure Dog
Bruce Wayne wrote:It appears that the collar stays melted.
Well, that makes sense.

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:46 pm
by Charybdis
So I guess that means do not press your Todd shirts!

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:51 pm
by RayROnline
Charybdis wrote:So I guess that means do not press your Todd shirts!

At least not the newest version. I've had others for years with no issues. But, hey, it's your money...

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:23 am
by Solent MKIII
Have you contacted Todd about this issue? I'm sure he would be interested - he could inform potential customers not to press this latest batch of shirts after washing ( at least around the collar ).

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:02 am
by Obi Sean Kenobi
Bruce Wayne wrote:It appears that the collar stays melted.
There are no collar stays on the todds shirt.

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:29 am
by Puppetboy
Ray, I've never heard of this problem. I really don't have any idea what would melt inside the collar, unless it is a fusible interfacing. Contact us by email and we'll be glad to replace the shirt.

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:02 am
by Texan Scott
well Ray if face melting is possible, then maybe the shirt just got too close to the ark? :Dietrich:

Re: COYLES Shirt Warning

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:17 am
by WConly
Texan Scott wrote:well Ray if face melting is possible, then maybe the shirt just got too close to the ark? :Dietrich:
:shock: ! Ouch! Tooooo! Too close to reality here :rolling: ! However, I am quite certain that Ray, is not quite satisfied with this for an answer, however the good news is Todd (being Todd) will replace the shirt. Got to tell you though -- this one still seems weird/strange, to me! One would think that with all the stuff I have had over the years (Indy, or not) that I would have run across this, at some point, but I have not to date. And, Lord knows I have ordered and/or purchased a bunch of stuff in my life. This one (and his other's, mentioned) truly baffles my mind! W>