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MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 4:18 pm
by 3thoubucks
What do you guys think of my new model line? How much should I ask for 'em?
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Look at it this way- Your quest for the perfect hat IS over. You've won! YAY!!! But it's not really over because it's plastic. ..... There's lots more questing for the perfect hat left
The next one is going to look better than the one shown.
Re: MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 12:27 pm
by cm289
Looks pretty neat, just like a real hat in the photos and video. Not knowing how much it actually costs to make something like this, maybe you should shoot for a 10-15% profit and adjust up or down depending on sales and demand.
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Re: MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 12:39 pm
by cm289
If they're ridiculously cheap to produce I'd adjust you're profit margin up accordingly to make it worth your time and effort.
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Re: MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:34 pm
by 3thoubucks
cm289 wrote:Looks pretty neat, just like a real hat in the photos and video. Not knowing how much it actually costs to make something like this, maybe you should shoot for a 10-15% profit and adjust up or down depending on sales and demand.
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cm289, say you had some cash burning a hole in your pocket and you were in the market for a new lid. What would you feel comfortable paying for one of these? ... Throw out a number.
Anyone- throw out a number, baby.
Re: MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:37 pm
by cm289
I dunno- $20?
Re: MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:08 pm
by baddates1
50 bucks would be a safe zone. Just a suggestion....... $70? That hat is super nice until you get to the cross sections.
"It's fake! See you can tell by the cross sections!" -Pro. Henry Jones Senior
Sorry couldn't pass it up! I really like this hat!
Re: MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:20 am
by 3thoubucks
cm289 wrote:I dunno- $20?
That matches your 10-15% over materials cost estimate pretty well, but it takes a lot more time to make one of these, than just pulling a wet felt hat body over a block. The basic "hat body" is made of 8 individual pieces of foam and fabric.
baddates1 wrote:50 bucks would be a safe zone. Just a suggestion....... $70? That hat is super nice until you get to the cross sections.
"It's fake! See you can tell by the cross sections!" -Pro. Henry Jones Senior
Sorry couldn't pass it up! I really like this hat!
I could do a few hats in that price range, just for the experience. Haven't sold any hats yet and I want to make a few hats and see the reviews they get here.
It's a fake hat, but fur felt fedoras have been out of style .. for 50 years. - You'll be looking Indy, but feeling Old Navy. Your mate will be thrilled with your, cloth hat normalness.
Oh yeah, if there's anything you don't like about the hat as pictured, please tell me. There are a few things I already plan to change on the next one.
As to the cross section, not unusual except for the humps- they are almost an inch thick solid foam. This makes the top of the hat strong enough to support the hat with the top of your head, and may, at times, act like a Pith helmet, isolating the heat on the outside of the hat from the inside.
Re: MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:56 pm
by mcmanm
Looks interesting. Are their any pics of it on your head? Pics outside in natural light. Think that would help in the decision making process.
Re: MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:27 am
by 3thoubucks
Here's another video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH0XZP7 ... e=youtu.be The pics on the web page with the crinkled tan paper background are all in natural light, except for the top left profile of the non bow side, which has a halogen shop light illuminating from below. The bow side front dent in this old video is too shallow, adjusted deeper in the web page pics. Next hat I make will have a little less taper.
Re: MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:00 pm
by Travelsonic
The seems on top stand out a lot to me, but it could just be just me - still looks AMAZING.
As much as I love my rabbit AB, my BP "Indy" in ToD style, and my Akubra Fed. IV, I think this is something I ought to look into if the price is right.
Re: MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:29 pm
by 3thoubucks
Travelsonic wrote:The seems on top stand out a lot to me, but it could just be just me - still looks AMAZING.
As much as I love my rabbit AB, my BP "Indy" in ToD style, and my Akubra Fed. IV, I think this is something I ought to look into if the price is right.
Good call. The seam is too obvious. I will post a picture of the redesigned seam tomorrow.
Re: MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:07 pm
by mcmanm
Looks cool from far away. Would be nice to get close up video with new update.
Re: MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:34 am
by 3thoubucks
mcmanm wrote:Looks cool from far away. Would be nice to get close up video with new update.
You can see the slick new seam, but it's too time consuming to make. Going to try an alternate quicker solution on the hat I made before this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dn8fTZ ... e=youtu.be
Re: MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:28 am
by Duck9000
This is getting better and better
Re: MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:23 pm
by Travelsonic
From that last vid, I like it - the seam is much less noticeable.
Re: MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:24 am
by 3thoubucks
Travelsonic wrote:From that last vid, I like it - the seam is much less noticeable.
As I said, very hard to do. So, I'm going to try and use a thin strip of fabric to hide the seam on last years thick brim hat. That hat has faded from daily wear, so I've had some fabric baking in the sun for the last couple weeks to get the color faded down, then I'll try a fast seam hiding method. Will report results soon.
Re: MAP synthetic THIN brim
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:30 pm
by 3thoubucks
Sorry for the delay. I did the thin strip as mentioned above, and it worked out nice, but I've decided to do something else. I'm making big changes. I've had the brim off the hat and glued the fabric to the top of the brim - won't be wrinkling when wet or cold now, and the brim will be thinner. I couldn't glue the fabric to the old thick brim, because the less dense foam would leave a bumpy surface. Going to glue down the top dent as well. It will make the dent deeper.