Club Obi Wan

This morning I read about this new product just released. From the demonstration in the video I can't really see any reason why it couldn't work on fur felt. The stuff almost seems too good to be true. Take a few minutes and watch this demonstration video. I guess they're partnered with Rust-Oleum and you can get the stuff at Home Depot for about 20 bucks. What do you all think? Just imagine water rolling right off your lid, even after being entirely submerged in water. Though I'm wondering if it would mess with the pouncing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrjXSsfxMQ


http://www.neverwet.com/

I've seen this a little while ago, It's not out yet. I have been in contact with them to get a sample amount sent to me. I'll make a couple test runs and I'll let you know.

im sure most people here have a beat up hat..figured someone would try this by now..I think its been talked about now for a while??

Reviews on the Home Depot website say it leaves a white or grey "film" and does not completely prevent moisture penetration on porous material.

I would be very cautious about treating a $475-$650 beaver felt hat with it.

I may try it out on something I don't care about to see, but since it almost never rains where I live I think I'll probably take my chances staying unprotected.

Similar product discussed here.

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Regards,

Indiana Jeff

I was thinking, what the big deal with your hat getting wet? Let it dry and put it on again. That's what we all have been doing for as long as we've been wearing hats. Seems to work fine.

Gailen

Never saw the other thread.

trdaggers wrote:I was thinking, what the big deal with your hat getting wet? Let it dry and put it on again. That's what we all have been doing for as long as we've been wearing hats. Seems to work fine.

Gailen

That thought crossed my mind as well. Water is no issue to someone with a beaver fur-felt hat. My AB has been through a lot of rain storms with no ill-effect. Now we all know that rabbit is a different story. Are water repellents specifically made for hats not good enough? I've had no problem with Scout water repellent on my Fed IV.

I'd never seen the product but the video sure makes it look remarkable. Maybe it is as good as they say. It might be worth the purchase for the toilet brush alone

Water doesn't worry me for beaver or rabbit.

The stain repellency is intriguing, but as I mentioned in the other thread, if the product won't let water in it stands to reason it won't let water out and sweat will just build up on the inside.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

indy89 wrote: That thought crossed my mind as well. Water is no issue to someone with a beaver fur-felt hat. My AB has been through a lot of rain storms with no ill-effect. Now we all know that rabbit is a different story. Are water repellents specifically made for hats not good enough? I've had no problem with Scout water repellent on my Fed IV.

Good point, Steve Delk has said he's been perfectly satisfied with regular old Scotchguard for years.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Indiana Jeff wrote:

indy89 wrote: That thought crossed my mind as well. Water is no issue to someone with a beaver fur-felt hat. My AB has been through a lot of rain storms with no ill-effect. Now we all know that rabbit is a different story. Are water repellents specifically made for hats not good enough? I've had no problem with Scout water repellent on my Fed IV.

Good point, Steve Delk has said he's been perfectly satisfied with regular old Scotchguard for years.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

That's not completely true. The stuff. That Steve and I use is much, much better then scotchguard. Scotchguard changes the feel of the hat. Your information is a little out of date.


No hat is 100% water proof. Every hat will shrink or tapper if the core gets soak. if this new product works like it looks like it does. Yes it would keep water or anything from staining the hat which is fantastic but I don't think the sweating would be a problem as the inside of the hat wouldn't be coated. You could seat a little and the hat would behave the same way. It's not like you sweat and the sweat goes though the hat. You would have to be sweating a lot and it would leave stains like crazy. If you were sweating that hard you would be wearing a summer time hat.


I rather not poo poo the product without actually trying it out. There is one way to find out for sure. When I get my sample I will put it though some test and I will let you guys and dolls know the results. This way no need to risk their hats.

BendingOak wrote: I rather not poo poo the product without actually trying it out. There is one way to find out for sure. When I get my sample I will put it though some test and I will let you guys and dolls know the results. This way no need to risk their hats.

Please do. I have been wondering how this would work on a cotton trench coat that I have.

Thanx!!!
Charlie

BendingOak wrote:

Indiana Jeff wrote:

indy89 wrote: That thought crossed my mind as well. Water is no issue to someone with a beaver fur-felt hat. My AB has been through a lot of rain storms with no ill-effect. Now we all know that rabbit is a different story. Are water repellents specifically made for hats not good enough? I've had no problem with Scout water repellent on my Fed IV.

Good point, Steve Delk has said he's been perfectly satisfied with regular old Scotchguard for years.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

That's not completely true. The stuff. That Steve and I use is much, much better then scotchguard. Scotchguard changes the feel of the hat. Your information is a little out of date.


No hat is 100% water proof. Every hat will shrink or tapper if the core gets soak. if this new product works like it looks like it does. Yes it would keep water or anything from staining the hat which is fantastic but I don't think the sweating would be a problem as the inside of the hat wouldn't be coated. You could seat a little and the hat would behave the same way. It's not like you sweat and the sweat goes though the hat. You would have to be sweating a lot and it would leave stains like crazy. If you were sweating that hard you would be wearing a summer time hat.


I rather not poo poo the product without actually trying it out. There is one way to find out for sure. When I get my sample I will put it though some test and I will let you guys and dolls know the results. This way no need to risk their hats.

Thanks John, I'd really like to see how this turns out

i'm not afraid of getting my hat wet. It's just those darn birds im afraid of, wanting to use my hat as a target practice.
This product seems to be the way to go for me to tell the birds "ha! in your face!"




CJ

Chiliana Jones wrote:i'm not afraid of getting my hat wet. It's just those darn birds im afraid of, wanting to use my hat as a target practice.
This product seems to be the way to go for me to tell the birds "ha! in your face!"




CJ

I have nightmares about birds, haha!

jlee562 wrote:

Chiliana Jones wrote:i'm not afraid of getting my hat wet. It's just those darn birds im afraid of, wanting to use my hat as a target practice.
This product seems to be the way to go for me to tell the birds "ha! in your face!"




CJ

I have nightmares about birds, haha!

Same here, fellas I am always very cautious when I come upon a cluster of old bird droppings on sidewalks, and always look up to make sure there's no birdies ready to unload as I pass Bird poop doesn't seem like an easy thing to clean off of a felt hat. I hope I will never know how difficult it might be

When I was working on a dig in Belize the walkway above our lab where we had to catalog the day's finds was being concreted... I heard a drop on my hat. I was never so disappointed that a bird HADN'T pooped on my hat.

i've heard that the best thing to do when dealing with bird droppings on clothes is to let it dry (don't try to wipe it off!! it will only make things worse!) and then you crack it and scrape it off



CJ

BendingOak wrote:I rather not poo poo the product without actually trying it out. There is one way to find out for sure. When I get my sample I will put it though some test and I will let you guys and dolls know the results. This way no need to risk their hats.

So....any news?¿?¿?¿
Very interested.

still waiting for them to get back to me. I will post updates as I have them.

John,

Neverwet is available already in stores. We have it sitting in the shop right now. We haven't tried it on any hats yet because we just got it and it says right on the package it dries to a milky film on fabrics/leather. Also, I feel it important to mention we don't have high hopes for this product. If you read the reviews in the link you'll see why.

This is what we picked up:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-S ... |Rustoleum" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I did not know that. Thanks for posting. Then I really don't care if they get back to me because it will not do for felt. Oh well. I still have the best water repellent on the market. Was hoping to help people out on testing on bodies I have just laying around that didn't make the grade to become a penman hat.

Thanks again for the heads up. Does save me on a lot of work.

Oh yeah, we were stoked here in the shop when we saw the video. My boss still thinks it might have an application for our straws. But yeah, based on what we've read and it seems supported by the reviews it'll have no application in felt hats. We might spray down a couple wool Broners we have sitting around the shop just to have a look.

After looking at it again. I think I will swing by homedepot and give it a shot. Stay tuned gear heads.

Here's a test site that tried this stuff out. Interesting results....and more interesting 'after effects' after application.

http://gizmodo.com/neverwet-review-the- ... -812797429" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Regards! Michaelson

Michaelson wrote:Here's a test site that tried this stuff out. Interesting results....and more interesting 'after effects' after application.

http://gizmodo.com/neverwet-review-the- ... -812797429" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Regards! Michaelson

I keep getting an internal server error?

Interesting. I just clicked on the link and it works fine for me.

"Chalky white gunk" that "looks like someone vomited white paint onto your belongings," and "smells like dead brain cells," that "starts flaking off after 10 minutes" and then coats your hands with an unpleasant residue that takes 8 washings to remove to the point the user doesn't feel soiled.

I'll stick with letting my hats dry the old fashioned way, thanks.

Yep. I don't think they were impressed.



Regards! Michaelson

Chalky white gunk?

So, it's water proof and provides its own fuller's earth?

Sounds like a win-win to me

Like the man said . . .

"You go first."

I know this thread is old and I'm sure most everyone knows by now, but just in case here's a PSA on NeverWet. Do not use this stuff! It will absolutely make your items liquid proof, but you will be left with a chalky white film and the fabric will be hard/crunchy to the touch. I've tried it on a cheap pair of canvas slip-ons and old suede shoes. Both results were the same ill effects. I had to toss them both. Again, stay away... unless you want a chalky crunchy item.

Thank you for confirming what we suspected, though I'm sorry you took such a 'hit' for team.

Regards! Michaelson

Yeah, that's disappointing and sorry to hear you had to sacrifice to find out.

No worries. I was too curious to not try it out. I was sort of expecting the film, but the added crunchy feeling was a big surprise. It's better it was on my old shoes than people's nice hats. ^_^

they came out with a new NeverWet for fabric..is that the one you used?

No my experiment was done back when there was only one type. I suppose I could try this new fabric version for everyone and see how it works.